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Title: Sorella Not Thrilled With Draw Process
Post by: Field_In_Motion on August 29, 2018, 07:42:16 PM
OWNER CRYING ABOUT THE DRAW.
WHO CARES IF YOU HAVE THE BEST HORSE IN THE RACE THE POST IS SECONDARY.

https://standardbredcanada.ca/news/8-29-18/sorella-not-thrilled-draw-process.html
Title: Re: Sorella Not Thrilled With Draw Process
Post by: Calhoun on August 29, 2018, 07:47:16 PM
Sorella should eat an occasional salad, get some exercise and stop crying.

When did everyone in harness racing get obese?
Title: Re: Sorella Not Thrilled With Draw Process
Post by: Field_In_Motion on August 29, 2018, 07:48:52 PM
Sorella should eat an occasional salad, get some exercise and stop crying.

When did everyone in harness racing get obese?

 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3

HE DOES APPEAR TO BEING ONE SIZED.
Title: Re: Sorella Not Thrilled With Draw Process
Post by: Powerful Patricks Ghost on August 29, 2018, 08:02:18 PM
Sorella should eat an occasional salad, get some exercise and stop crying.

When did everyone in harness racing get obese?

Welfare queens tend to be fat fucks
Title: Re: Sorella Not Thrilled With Draw Process
Post by: LUCPARK on August 29, 2018, 08:16:22 PM
Stupid rule.
Elimination winners should have the right to pic a post

YONKERS made another stupid decision
Title: Re: Sorella Not Thrilled With Draw Process
Post by: Field_In_Motion on August 29, 2018, 08:17:18 PM
Stupid rule.
Elimination winners should have the right to pic a post

YONKERS made another stupid decision

ITS CALLED THE ALLARD RULE
Title: Re: Sorella Not Thrilled With Draw Process
Post by: Equus Caballus on August 29, 2018, 08:25:48 PM
the odds of allard drawing the rail two weeks in a row with the same horse

1/8 x 1/8 = 1/64 or 1.5625%
(8 posts)

must be the luckiest guy alive
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qswig8dcEAY
Title: Re: Sorella Not Thrilled With Draw Process
Post by: Bernie Madoff on August 29, 2018, 08:32:27 PM
It's 12.5% every time.
Title: Re: Sorella Not Thrilled With Draw Process
Post by: Equus Caballus on August 29, 2018, 08:36:11 PM
It's 12.5% every time.

yes for a single trial

not when you need the same outcome after two different trials
assuming its 100% "random"
Title: Re: Sorella Not Thrilled With Draw Process
Post by: Bernie Madoff on August 29, 2018, 08:41:50 PM
So the odds of drawing the 5 hole three weeks consecutively is 512-1 ?   ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: Sorella Not Thrilled With Draw Process
Post by: Field_In_Motion on August 29, 2018, 08:43:50 PM
HE SHOULD HAVE SLIPPED THE DRAW PERSON A WATCH  O0 O0
Title: Re: Sorella Not Thrilled With Draw Process
Post by: Field_In_Motion on August 29, 2018, 08:45:27 PM
HORSE STILL WINS BUT THIS STORY IS JUST INCASE HE DOESN’T WIN tmbz1
Title: Re: Sorella Not Thrilled With Draw Process
Post by: Equus Caballus on August 29, 2018, 08:47:23 PM
So the odds of drawing the 5 hole three weeks consecutively is 512-1 ?   ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3

yes 8 to the 3rd power
Title: Re: Sorella Not Thrilled With Draw Process
Post by: Equus Caballus on August 29, 2018, 08:48:30 PM
No.
It’s 7-1 each time, not 8-1
343-1
\
why 1/7??

that single post does not take away from the total number of possible outcoems

why are you guys tryin to fuck with my head
i know im rihgt tmbz1 tmbz1
Title: Re: Sorella Not Thrilled With Draw Process
Post by: towtruck on August 29, 2018, 08:53:00 PM
HORSE STILL WINS BUT THIS STORY IS JUST INCASE HE DOESN’T WIN tmbz1
You must believe in Santa Claus if you honestly believe that horse can go tow to tow turning for home against SpringSteen! (tow 2 toe) lol
Title: Re: Sorella Not Thrilled With Draw Process
Post by: Equus Caballus on August 29, 2018, 08:53:24 PM
its 512/1 for any respective consecutive combo

ex

posts 1,8,4 respectively week after week

or 1,1,1
doesnt matter

they are independent trials
unless its a handicapped race of course

please stop messing with my head
been working all day 73cv.2 73cv.2 73cv.2 73cv.2
Title: Re: Sorella Not Thrilled With Draw Process
Post by: Equus Caballus on August 29, 2018, 08:58:49 PM
If you have 1 chance in 8, then the odds are 7-1.
Just like if you have 1 chance in 2 (coin flip), your odds are 1-1, not 2-1.

yes 1/8 is the same as 7 to 1

i should have clarified to bernie
using the right keys on the board

its 511 to 1 or 1/512
same thing
Title: Re: Sorella Not Thrilled With Draw Process
Post by: hunglikeachandelier on August 29, 2018, 09:08:01 PM
Last week it was a 1/6 to draw the rail, and this week a 1/8. So wouldn't it be a 1/48 chance, would that be 5-1 x 7-1 or 35-1 odds?
Title: Re: Sorella Not Thrilled With Draw Process
Post by: Equus Caballus on August 29, 2018, 09:08:49 PM
Last week it was a 1/6 to draw the rail, and this week a 1/8. So wouldn't it be a 1/48 chance, would that be 5-1 x 7-1 or 35-1 odds?

Yes I figured they were full fields
For the elims

I don’t watch that excuse of a harness track
Title: Re: Sorella Not Thrilled With Draw Process
Post by: mohawkid on August 29, 2018, 09:16:44 PM
It does not matter the week before
It has nothing to do with it
8 horse field you have 12.5% chance to draw any position
The next week you have the same 12.5% chance it’s not 1/64 l
Title: Re: Sorella Not Thrilled With Draw Process
Post by: Powerful Patricks Ghost on August 29, 2018, 09:24:09 PM
It does not matter the week before
It has nothing to do with it
8 horse field you have 12.5% chance to draw any position
The next week you have the same 12.5% chance it’s not 1/64 l

Correct. The odds don't change because they are independent trials but you can still get the odds of drawing X number a Y number of consecutive trials. Assuming a fair draw the odds for each draw will be 1/X where X =field size.
Title: Re: Sorella Not Thrilled With Draw Process
Post by: Equus Caballus on August 29, 2018, 09:45:02 PM
It does not matter the week before
It has nothing to do with it
8 horse field you have 12.5% chance to draw any position
The next week you have the same 12.5% chance it’s not 1/64 l

Yes 12.5 percent each time but when you must draw the same two starts In a row it’s 1/64 or 63 to 1 assuming both starts are 8 horse fields

This is simple math
What are we not understanding?

1/8 times 1/8 equals 1/64
Title: Re: Sorella Not Thrilled With Draw Process
Post by: towtruck on August 29, 2018, 09:45:26 PM
100 divided by 8
Title: Re: Sorella Not Thrilled With Draw Process
Post by: slivercharm on August 29, 2018, 09:49:56 PM
Sorella should eat an occasional salad, get some exercise and stop crying.

When did everyone in harness racing get obese?

To many stake dinners at Yonkers I bet
Title: Re: Sorella Not Thrilled With Draw Process
Post by: Field_In_Motion on August 29, 2018, 10:16:20 PM
ALMOST TRIPPED OVER OUR TABLE WITH SOME FAT LURKY FELLA AND A MINI VERSION LAST WEEK WHEN THEY ALL WENT TO WINNERS CIRCLE.
Title: Re: Sorella Not Thrilled With Draw Process
Post by: Parked on August 30, 2018, 07:24:59 AM
They change things to get the best horses in the big races  and then supplemental entries complain about post positions draws.  They want to sit on the sidelines and just pay up to get in for the big bucks.  Why not allow for PP draws for winning elmination horses if the horse was paid into stake all the way. If supplemental you draw for remaining PP.
The supplemental payment is much like buying a stock the last day before divivend payment , grabbing dividend and then selling the next day. 
Title: Re: Sorella Not Thrilled With Draw Process
Post by: LUCPARK on August 30, 2018, 08:53:05 AM
They change things to get the best horses in the big races  and then supplemental entries complain about post positions draws.  They want to sit on the sidelines and just pay up to get in for the big bucks.  Why not allow for PP draws for winning elmination horses if the horse was paid into stake all the way. If supplemental you draw for remaining PP.
The supplemental payment is much like buying a stock the last day before divivend payment , grabbing dividend and then selling the next day.  

ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3

 THATS idiotic tmbz1 tmbz1


HOW ABOUT U WIN AN ELIM U PICK POST
OR IS THAT TO HARD,,

 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: Sorella Not Thrilled With Draw Process
Post by: Fatboy on August 30, 2018, 01:32:03 PM
ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3

 THATS idiotic tmbz1 tmbz1


HOW ABOUT U WIN AN ELIM U PICK POST
OR IS THAT TO HARD,,

 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3

YOU WIN, YOU PICK POST, MAKES THE MOST SENSE. KEEPS FOLKS FROM CRYING ABOUT NO TRYS IN ELIMS TOO..... tmbz1
Title: Re: Sorella Not Thrilled With Draw Process
Post by: Brown jug on August 30, 2018, 03:50:50 PM
your missing an important point
 was the elimination a open draw.. of course
 so by  bad luck some horse drew the 6,7,8 hole
but they make it to the final finishing third or fourth
so they automatically only get to draw for the outside again
all races including finals should be an open draw( all based on luck)
otherwise a horse that gets a good draw in the elimination is potentially rewarded twice for the good draw
as bill robinson said about posts, if you are that worried about the post, maybe your horse is not as good as you think he is
as for not trying in the elimination, fine, drivers can take their chances ,
as for gamblers don't bet them  , there is hundreds of other  races every day , bet the finals
Title: Re: Sorella Not Thrilled With Draw Process
Post by: Fatboy on August 30, 2018, 04:03:56 PM
your missing an important point
 was the elimination a open draw.. of course
 so by  bad luck some horse drew the 6,7,8 hole
but they make it to the final finishing third or fourth
so they automatically only get to draw for the outside again
all races including finals should be an open draw( all based on luck)
otherwise a horse that gets a good draw in the elimination is potentially rewarded twice for the good draw
as bill robinson said about posts, if you are that worried about the post, maybe your horse is not as good as you think he is
as for not trying in the elimination, fine, drivers can take their chances ,
as for gamblers don't bet them  , there is hundreds of other  races every day , bet the finals

Good points...all. Maybe some sour grapes from Jimmy Fright camp?
Title: Re: Sorella Not Thrilled With Draw Process
Post by: Yonkers1 on August 30, 2018, 09:22:20 PM
Multiple Event Probability
Find multiple event probability, given n(s) = 10, n(A) = 8 and n(B) = 2

Step 1 : To find P(A)
         P(A) = 8 / 10 = 0.8

Step 2 : To find P(A')
          P(A') = 1 - 0.8 = 0.2

Step 3 : To find P(B)
         P(B) = 2 / 10 = 0.2

Step 4 : To find P(B')
          P(B') = 1 - 0.2 = 0.8

Step 5 : To find P(A ∩ B)
         P(A ∩ B) = 0.8 *0.2 = 0.16

Step 6 : To find P(A ∪ B)
         P(A ∪ B) = ( 0.8 + 0.2 ) - 0.16 = 0.84

Step 7 : To find P(A | B)
         P(A | B) = 0.16 / 0.2 = 0.8
Title: Re: Sorella Not Thrilled With Draw Process
Post by: towtruck on August 31, 2018, 05:52:35 PM
Multiple Event Probability
Find multiple event probability, given n(s) = 10, n(A) = 8 and n(B) = 2

Step 1 : To find P(A)
         P(A) = 8 / 10 = 0.8

Step 2 : To find P(A')
          P(A') = 1 - 0.8 = 0.2

Step 3 : To find P(B)
         P(B) = 2 / 10 = 0.2

Step 4 : To find P(B')
          P(B') = 1 - 0.2 = 0.8

Step 5 : To find P(A ∩ B)
         P(A ∩ B) = 0.8 *0.2 = 0.16

Step 6 : To find P(A ∪ B)
         P(A ∪ B) = ( 0.8 + 0.2 ) - 0.16 = 0.84

Step 7 : To find P(A | B)
         P(A | B) = 0.16 / 0.2 = 0.8

Give me $20 win on 7 and 10 ex 7/all
Title: Re: Sorella Not Thrilled With Draw Process
Post by: Field_In_Motion on September 01, 2018, 10:12:14 PM
JIMMY GOT BONNED
Title: Re: Sorella Not Thrilled With Draw Process
Post by: titans1127 on September 01, 2018, 10:25:36 PM
He would be happy he won $125k and not cry about it.
Title: Re: Sorella Not Thrilled With Draw Process
Post by: Field_In_Motion on September 01, 2018, 10:32:08 PM
He would be happy he won $125k and not cry about it.

HES SOUR

Adriano Sorella



13 mins ·

...


Tough to swallow. But raced like a champ. That was a hard earned 2nd. Onwards
Title: Re: Sorella Not Thrilled With Draw Process
Post by: Field_In_Motion on September 01, 2018, 10:33:24 PM
YONKERS SCREWD HIM ON THE DRAW AND NOW HE CANT SUPPLEMENT TO LBJ.
Title: Re: Sorella Not Thrilled With Draw Process
Post by: Calhoun on September 01, 2018, 10:36:23 PM
HES SOUR

Adriano Sorella



13 mins ·

...


Tough to swallow. But raced like a champ. That was a hard earned 2nd. Onwards
He is sour.  And I always thought there was something fishy about his rags to riches story.

He's done a lot for some people on the downside of advantage but he should check himself.


Title: Re: Sorella Not Thrilled With Draw Process
Post by: Field_In_Motion on September 01, 2018, 10:38:54 PM
He is sour.  And I always thought there was something fishy about his rags to riches story.

He's done a lot for some people on the downside of advantage but he should check himself.




HOW DO THEY GUVE HIM PRINT ON USTA AND STBC SITE CRYING OVER A POST POSITION.

Title: Re: Sorella Not Thrilled With Draw Process
Post by: titans1127 on September 01, 2018, 10:56:46 PM
HES SOUR

Adriano Sorella



13 mins ·

...


Tough to swallow. But raced like a champ. That was a hard earned 2nd. Onwards
I meant to say should, not would but yeah he’s definitely sour.  Guy is loaded and just won 6 figures, you’d think he be jumping for joy.
Title: Re: Sorella Not Thrilled With Draw Process
Post by: Field_In_Motion on September 02, 2018, 01:06:11 PM
I meant to say should, not would but yeah he’s definitely sour.  Guy is loaded and just won 6 figures, you’d think he be jumping for joy.


GUY SNAGS 125k AND STILL CRYING YOU KNOW HOW MANY LEASE PAYMENTS YOU GET OUT OF THAT KIND OF MONEY.



Adriano Sorella


2 hrs ·

...
Crazy to see Jimmy Freight parked the mile out of the 8 hole at Yonkers and still gain down the stretch. Any other post and he'd be on his way to the Jug.
Title: Re: Sorella Not Thrilled With Draw Process
Post by: Field_In_Motion on September 02, 2018, 01:19:46 PM
BEGGING FACEBOOK PEOPLE TO POST ON  HIS WALL TO INVITEJIMMYTOLBJ

TALK ABOUT SOUR GRAPES LETS CHANGE THE RULES BECAUSE HE WANTS TO BE  THE JUG


STFU THE ONLY ONE WHO SHOULD BE IN TEARS ARE THOSE WHO BET ON YOU AND I WAS ONE OF THEM.I FLUSHED MY MONEY DOWN THE PISSER SO STOP DWELLING ON A FUCKEN SECOND PLACE AND YOUR POST.
Title: Re: Sorella Not Thrilled With Draw Process
Post by: Fatboy on September 02, 2018, 01:59:48 PM
SOUR GRAPES GOIN IN...
AND OUT
GREAT HORSES OVERCOME...NEXT?
Title: Re: Sorella Not Thrilled With Draw Process
Post by: Field_In_Motion on September 02, 2018, 02:17:11 PM
SOUR GRAPES GOIN IN...
AND OUT
GREAT HORSES OVERCOME...NEXT?

HE’LL BE TRYING TO SWAY Hambletonian Society IN ALLOWING HIM TO RACE HIS HORSE
Title: Re: Sorella Not Thrilled With Draw Process
Post by: JUICEJUNKIES on September 02, 2018, 02:25:53 PM
HE’LL BE TRYING TO SWAY Hambletonian Society IN ALLOWING HIM TO RACE HIS HORSE

In what race???
Title: Re: Sorella Not Thrilled With Draw Process
Post by: Fatboy on September 02, 2018, 02:35:16 PM
HE’LL BE TRYING TO SWAY Hambletonian Society IN ALLOWING HIM TO RACE HIS HORSE

AND JOHN CAMPBLETONIAN WILL SAY   NO
Title: Re: Sorella Not Thrilled With Draw Process
Post by: LUCPARK on September 02, 2018, 02:36:58 PM
CANT PEOPLE JUST LOSE  a race

WITH

A LITTLE

DIGNITY...
Title: Re: Sorella Not Thrilled With Draw Process
Post by: JUICEJUNKIES on September 02, 2018, 02:43:32 PM
AND JOHN CAMPBLETONIAN WILL SAY   NO

Guy has lost mind, no race to beg into.
Title: Re: Sorella Not Thrilled With Draw Process
Post by: Fatboy on September 02, 2018, 02:58:18 PM
Guy has lost mind, no race to beg into.

HAS HE LOST HIS MIND? WHO DOES THIS WINDBAG THINK HE IS ANYWAYS?
Title: Re: Sorella Not Thrilled With Draw Process
Post by: JUICEJUNKIES on September 02, 2018, 03:37:18 PM
HAS HE LOST HIS MIND? WHO DOES THIS WINDBAG THINK HE IS ANYWAYS?

Not sure just know he lost mind
Title: Re: Sorella Not Thrilled With Draw Process
Post by: Field_In_Motion on September 03, 2018, 10:58:33 AM
LET'S START A NATIONAL CAMPAIGN #LETJIMMYRACEINLBJ2018
Title: Re: Sorella Not Thrilled With Draw Process
Post by: Sue Lorella on September 03, 2018, 04:11:48 PM
Maybe they can supplement undrafted  73cv.2
Title: Re: Sorella Not Thrilled With Draw Process
Post by: PIGLAND on September 03, 2018, 05:26:18 PM
bryan didn't lorella feed you last weekend? and now you knock him?
Title: Re: Sorella Not Thrilled With Draw Process
Post by: JUICEJUNKIES on September 03, 2018, 05:55:57 PM
Who was the fella that called him Gorilla?
Title: Re: Sorella Not Thrilled With Draw Process
Post by: Carnival People on September 03, 2018, 08:48:38 PM
OWNER CRYING ABOUT THE DRAW.
WHO CARES IF YOU HAVE THE BEST HORSE IN THE RACE THE POST IS SECONDARY.

https://standardbredcanada.ca/news/8-29-18/sorella-not-thrilled-draw-process.html

Wife tells me that he is all over social media with passive aggressive bragging about his Maserati and all his other wealth.  Truth is he is just a sloppy guy with no taste or class.  He's a braggart who takes pics of himself on private jets that he's not even flying on.  Just wants to look like a big shot and always flashes a big expensive watch.  Sounds sickening to me.   
Title: Re: Sorella Not Thrilled With Draw Process
Post by: spaheaven on September 03, 2018, 09:01:20 PM
Bad drive by Roy, should have never tucked...
Title: Re: Sorella Not Thrilled With Draw Process
Post by: Sue Lorella on September 03, 2018, 09:08:05 PM
Wife tells me that he is all over social media with passive aggressive bragging about his Maserati and all his other wealth.  Truth is he is just a sloppy guy with no taste or class.  He's a braggart who takes pics of himself on private jets that he's not even flying on.  Just wants to look like a big shot and always flashes a big expensive watch.  Sounds sickening to me.   


Maybe your wife should pay more attention to you and not  :1 :1 :1
Title: Re: Sorella Not Thrilled With Draw Process
Post by: AldoReign on September 03, 2018, 09:33:54 PM
Bad drive by Roy, should have never tucked...
He didn’t have a choice...he got ran into...
Title: Re: Sorella Not Thrilled With Draw Process
Post by: towtruck on September 04, 2018, 12:15:17 PM
Bad drive by Roy, should have never tucked...
?? Really ? They could go around two more times and Roy would have NEVER EVER gotten the lead!
Title: Re: Sorella Not Thrilled With Draw Process
Post by: Biggiestalls on September 08, 2018, 10:46:14 AM
This guy has prob spent millions of dollars within the industry. I give him credit for being passionate enough about racing to invest that kind of money. Need more like him. But i do agree with the social media thing. We get it, you're wealthy. I love this little horse he has a lot of heart. Louis phillipe Roy is also extremely talented i would love for him to invade east coast and ruffle up some feathers!!
Title: Re: Sorella Not Thrilled With Draw Process
Post by: Backinmyday on September 08, 2018, 12:42:09 PM
I don’t see why the big deal over this horse.  He’s a nice horse but I wouldn’t pick him against some of the other three year olds. Obviously the owner at one point thought the same because he didn’t stake him early on.  I say leave him out because other owners spent money and didn’t get this far.  Rules are rules.  Also is this guy related to that Lou Sorella in Canada?  If so I get the reason why people aren’t to fond of him.
Title: Re: Sorella Not Thrilled With Draw Process
Post by: Sue Lorella on September 08, 2018, 02:47:37 PM
BROTHA LOU IS NO BROTHA.   SAVED A HORSE FROM A FIRE FOR HIS STORY, SOLD IT 2 MONTHS LATER.  LUCKY CAUSE THE HORSE WAS GETTING THE FELLOWS  54za.cb.   

https://harnessracingupdate.com/2018/02/11/fire-escapee-finds-new-racing-life/


BROTHA LOU KNOWS HOW TO STIFF DA TRAINERS.   ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: Sorella Not Thrilled With Draw Process
Post by: Backinmyday on September 08, 2018, 03:03:13 PM
Lou sounds like a real scum bag if that’s true.  When I was in Canada I heard stories.  People call him a real phony and just a joke.  Just didn’t know if there is a connection, thanks for the story. 
Title: Re: Sorella Not Thrilled With Draw Process
Post by: Sue Lorella on September 08, 2018, 03:20:19 PM
BROTHA LOU IS SPECIAL.   ngc3  NO ONE LIKES THAT BUSTOUT, NOT EVEN FAMILY 73cv.2 73cv.2
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