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Title: Hoosier Hall Of Shame!
Post by: swoodall on August 15, 2018, 01:11:51 AM
Harness racing in Indiana continues it's rapid descent into harness hell. :'(

In Tuesday's 7th race another no decision after a long Inquiry into an obvious infraction.

Sam Widger leaves with #6 Lakeview Avery and drops 2nd behind #2 Toms Power Chip with Bruce White.

Brandon Bates leaves with #9 Kai Matthew and drops 4th into the first turn with the 1st qt going in 27.4

Bates then pulls 1st over before the 5/16's as White backs down the pace in a 30.0 second qt.

Bates gets 3/4's of the way up on drunk ass Widger who pops the pocket into Bates forcing him 3 wide!

This was 10 times worse than what Warren pulled and there was no doubt at the otb that Widger was coming down.

The worst stewards in harness racing show the Inquiry replay from 4 different angles many times. 84zac.1

In fact they would rewind and replay over and over again. angbk

This took a very long time as Inquiries go but it seemed obvious the only driver interfered with by Widger was Bates.

So placing Widger behind Bates seemed a no brainer and should have taken 10 seconds. tmbz1

Then Steve Cross comes on and says "stewards find no violation the results stand!"

Unfucking real! 63z.uzi

Lester Raber who owns the #9 should sue the stewards for dereliction of duty. 91zxa.1

This is another dangerous move by a driver that goes unpunished while the crybabies moan how dangerous the sport is and claim these crackheads are risking their lives out there on the track. 43z.stf

The whiners need to shut up about how dangerous harness racing is when the drivers clearly don't care and the stewards have no intention of holding any horseman accountable for their actions. 43z.stf

Harness racing is becoming like Quarter Horse racing at Los Al. 11.wp

No blood, no foul. 11.dt
Title: Re: Hoosier Hall Of Shame!
Post by: jdogg1977 on August 15, 2018, 05:13:03 AM
So you lost your 2 bucks is what you’re saying?
Title: Re: Hoosier Hall Of Shame!
Post by: Powerful Patricks Ghost on August 15, 2018, 07:57:42 AM
Eh. Tbh, stewards blow at almost every track. Can't think of one in either breed where they are really good. Maybe NYRA but that's about it.  Had a bad beat a few weeks ago at Del Mar. Gary Stevens on a horse came out 6-7 paths under heavy left handed urging, crashes into a horse ridden by Flavian Prat who was maintaining straight line. Beaten by a nose and stewards ruled 2-1 that it didn't affect the outcome. Probably one of the worst calls I've seen in years.
Title: Re: Hoosier Hall Of Shame!
Post by: LUCPARK on August 15, 2018, 08:48:01 AM
CANT WE LOSE  A RACE WITH DIGNITY

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 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 tmbz1
Title: Re: Hoosier Hall Of Shame!
Post by: Fatboy on August 15, 2018, 09:37:20 AM
CANT WE LOSE  A RACE WITH DIGNITY

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 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 tmbz1

WOODEN LEG STUFFED WITH LOSERS
Title: Re: Hoosier Hall Of Shame!
Post by: Heavy Hitter on August 15, 2018, 09:46:48 AM
 Blew grandmas prescription money on the races again. She will have to do without and eat dog food all month until next months SS checque arrives. Shame on Socialist Steve
Title: Re: Hoosier Hall Of Shame!
Post by: fairguy on August 15, 2018, 10:41:58 AM
You lose all credibility once you call them stewards.
Title: Re: Hoosier Hall Of Shame!
Post by: swoodall on August 15, 2018, 02:32:24 PM
You lose all credibility once you call them stewards.



It's like calling Angel Hernandez an umpire. 11.dt
Title: Re: Hoosier Hall Of Shame!
Post by: swoodall on August 15, 2018, 02:35:07 PM
I WATCH THE RACE
AGAIN UR SPOT ON

THE GAME IS A RIGGED JOKE


Thank you! tmbz1

Ignore the CRACKHEADS. angbk

This is an actual racing thread that involves racing unlike the real crying and racist bullshit these other losers post.
 43z.stf angbk 94z.sm
Title: Re: Hoosier Hall Of Shame!
Post by: Fatboy on August 15, 2018, 02:44:49 PM

Thank you! tmbz1

Ignore the CRACKHEADS. angbk

This is an actual racing thread that involves racing unlike the real crying and racist bullshit these other losers post.
 43z.stf angbk 94z.sm


NO MENTION OF VOLCANO VAPORIZERS THIS TIME...SHOCKING
Title: Re: Hoosier Hall Of Shame!
Post by: MR.DALRAE on August 15, 2018, 03:16:52 PM
STEVE S IS DA MAN,,,,,,I LIKE IT WHEN HE AND HORSES FIRST GET INTO IT
Title: Re: Hoosier Hall Of Shame!
Post by: Fatboy on August 15, 2018, 03:31:43 PM
STEVE S IS DA MAN,,,,,,I LIKE IT WHEN HE AND HORSES FIRST GET INTO IT

HE HAS GREAT STORIES THAT ARE ON THE CUSP OF TRUTH AND FANTASY..ALWAYS A GOOD READ tmbz1
Title: Re: Hoosier Hall Of Shame!
Post by: slivercharm on August 15, 2018, 06:49:47 PM
HE HAS GREAT STORIES THAT ARE ON THE CUSP OF TRUTH AND FANTASY..ALWAYS A GOOD READ tmbz1


Just a little to verbose

Is he related to maxman
Title: Re: Hoosier Hall Of Shame!
Post by: Fatboy on August 15, 2018, 06:59:19 PM
Just a little to verbose

Is he related to maxman

NOT QUITE AS BAD AS MAXI-PAD IMO, BUT YES tmbz1
Title: Re: Hoosier Hall Of Shame!
Post by: swoodall on August 18, 2018, 01:57:18 AM
I know there will be no shortage of posts telling me I'm wrong but doesn't this sound like what Pennsylvania's Racing Board pulled?


BELLAMY, RYAN
ANDERSON, IN
YOB 1984
HoP on 6/15/2018
FINED: $1,000 HORSE DISQUALIFIED - PLACED 10, PURSE REDISTRIBUTION
POSITIVE TEST- POST RACE
71 IAC 5-3-2 and 71 IAC 8-1-2(a),(b) Sample #18062003-021 taken from the horse SUPERFICIAL in the 4th race on 6/15/2018, tested positive for Aminocaproic Acid at a level of 90.5 ng/mL.

HoP on 7/7/2018
HORSE DISQUALIFIED - PLACED 8, PURSE REDISTRIBUTION
POSITIVE TEST- POST RACE
71 IAC 5-3-2 and 71IAC 8-1-2(a),(b) Sample #18071102-036 taken from STRONG PLAYIN KING in the first race on 7/7/2018 tested positive for Aminocaproic Acid at a level of 201 ng/mL. Violation was treated as one with previous ruling #18058HOP because of timing of notification.


How screwed up is this shit? 11.dt

"Violation was treated as one with previous ruling #18058HOP because of timing of notification"? 94z.sm

One more reason Hoosier is a shithole....oops I mean safe haven for cheating horsemen. 91zxa.1

Wonder who was responsible for the "timing problem" and who decided a slap on the wrist was enough? 11.dt 
Title: Re: Hoosier Hall Of Shame!
Post by: viking55 on August 18, 2018, 10:14:32 PM
It stops the various racing commissions from "stockpiling" positive tests in order to obtain a harsher penalty. When the commission is notified of a positive test, they are supposed to notify the person with the positive test and set a hearing.
Title: Re: Hoosier Hall Of Shame!
Post by: PIGLAND on August 18, 2018, 11:08:24 PM
It stops the various racing commissions from "stockpiling" positive tests in order to obtain a harsher penalty. When the commission is notified of a positive test, they are supposed to notify the person with the positive test and set a hearing.
they should notify the bettors fisrt
Title: Re: Hoosier Hall Of Shame!
Post by: viking55 on August 18, 2018, 11:23:03 PM
Bettors are ALWAYS the last to know anything in harness racing.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Hoosier Hall Of Shame!
Post by: swoodall on August 20, 2018, 01:38:12 AM
It stops the various racing commissions from "stockpiling" positive tests in order to obtain a harsher penalty. When the commission is notified of a positive test, they are supposed to notify the person with the positive test and set a hearing.



I'm not sure how stockpiling would work?

Multiple offenses that have independent penalties would still have the same effect whether the days were added together or doled out separately.

And multiple positives for the same drug could have a higher penalty for each additional offense but again the total days wouldn't change, whether they are served one offense at a time or consecutively.   
Title: Re: Hoosier Hall Of Shame!
Post by: viking55 on August 20, 2018, 01:37:13 PM
IF a trainer is using a drug too close to a race and gets a positive for it, it is considered only one positive test. IF NO ONE tells him he has a positive for that drug, and he continues to use the drug in such a fashion, he would accrue multiple positive tests. IF he is told he has a positive, one would be pretty foolish to continue to use that drug the same way. AND IT IS against the rules for racing commissions to do so. At least in every state I ever raced in.
Title: Re: Hoosier Hall Of Shame!
Post by: swoodall on August 20, 2018, 02:04:07 PM
IF a trainer is using a drug too close to a race and gets a positive for it, it is considered only one positive test. IF NO ONE tells him he has a positive for that drug, and he continues to use the drug in such a fashion, he would accrue multiple positive tests. IF he is told he has a positive, one would be pretty foolish to continue to use that drug the same way. AND IT IS against the rules for racing commissions to do so. At least in every state I ever raced in.


Thank you tmbz1

I understand what you're saying now.

Title: Re: Hoosier Hall Of Shame!
Post by: viking55 on August 20, 2018, 11:36:03 PM

Thank you tmbz1

I understand what you're saying now.



 tmbz1
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