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Title: Didnt Mr Gural say Kickers were not welcome at his tracks?
Post by: Atthetrack7 on June 08, 2018, 12:43:27 PM: TETRICK, TIM A
WOOLWICH TWP, NJ
YOB 1981
PHL on 5/27/2018
FINED: $250

PA Code 58- 183.281(14) 183.264(b) Mr. Tetrick used his whip (and feet) after the finish while driving #2, CHRISTEN ME N, after race 14 on Sunday, May 27, 2018 at Harrah`s Philadelphia. Mr. Tetrick is fined $250. Fines are due within ten days of ruling. Appeals are due within ten days of ruling and must be submitted in writing to: The Pennsylvania Horse Racing Commission, 2301 North Cameron St., Room 301, Harrisburg, PA 17110 ATTN: Brett Revington
Title: Re: Didnt Mr Gural say Kickers were not welcome at his tracks?
Post by: viking55 on June 08, 2018, 01:17:34 PM: What gural says and what he DOES are two COMPLETELY DIFFERENT things.

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Title: Re: Didnt Mr Gural say Kickers were not welcome at his tracks?
Post by: NJ The best on June 08, 2018, 01:38:08 PM: correct. Gural = Hypocrite .
Title: Re: Didnt Mr Gural say Kickers were not welcome at his tracks?
Post by: PIGLAND on June 08, 2018, 02:34:57 PM: im thinking teatrick will no longer be racing at the meadowlands per gural rule
Title: Re: Didnt Mr Gural say Kickers were not welcome at his tracks?
Post by: LUCPARK on June 08, 2018, 02:36:23 PM: Quote from: PIGLAND on June 08, 2018, 02:34:57 PM
im thinking teatrick will no longer be racing at the meadowlands per gural rule

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stop it
Title: Re: Didnt Mr Gural say Kickers were not welcome at his tracks?
Post by: Hush Limbaugh II on June 08, 2018, 03:12:37 PM: Quote from: PIGLAND on June 08, 2018, 02:34:57 PM
im thinking teatrick will no longer be racing at the meadowlands per gural rule

Rules are for suckers, just like the racing. Just keep telling another story and deny, deny, deny. Nobody can "TRUMP" that strategy 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp
Title: Re: Didnt Mr Gural say Kickers were not welcome at his tracks?
Post by: HHTremor on June 08, 2018, 04:39:47 PM: A kick is probably less painful than a whip that can leave welts and draw blood. If you had a choice of someone being about a foot away from you and kicking you or slashing you with a whip, which one would you pick? A driver cannot wind up and kick a horse really hard while sitting in the sulky. A lot of times, the driver simply drops their foot down until it hits their hock or gives them a kick to scare them. This, of course, is not legal because the driver, by removing their foot from the stirrup, can lose their balance and potentially fall or cause an accident. But I am wondering why is it okay to pull the ear plugs on a horse, by kicking straight up to pull them out. Your foot is still leaving the stirrup. Why no fine for that?

BTW, Gural is a Hypocrite!!!!!!!

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Title: Re: Didnt Mr Gural say Kickers were not welcome at his tracks?
Post by: hoosierboy on June 08, 2018, 09:23:38 PM: Fuck Gural
Title: Re: Didnt Mr Gural say Kickers were not welcome at his tracks?
Post by: Bernie Madoff on June 08, 2018, 09:35:56 PM: Quote from: hoosierboy on June 08, 2018, 09:23:38 PM
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Title: Re: Didnt Mr Gural say Kickers were not welcome at his tracks?
Post by: slivercharm on June 08, 2018, 11:17:22 PM: Quote from: PIGLAND on June 08, 2018, 02:34:57 PM
im thinking teatrick will no longer be racing at the meadowlands per gural rule

Trace gonna take one for team and get banded so tim can still drive there
Title: Re: Didnt Mr Gural say Kickers were not welcome at his tracks?
Post by: Hush Limbaugh II on June 08, 2018, 11:54:40 PM: The no kick rule (no feet out of stirrups) is a safety issue. Feet out of stirrups, driver has no leverage to control horse should something occur during race. 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp
Title: Re: Didnt Mr Gural say Kickers were not welcome at his tracks?
Post by: Hush Limbaugh II on June 09, 2018, 12:43:32 AM: Quote from: Kirby's Ace on June 09, 2018, 12:24:52 AM
Sorry, But they have not had so called "stirrups" on racebikes in years, Now it's just a metal bar to brace your foot against. So really having your foot out of the stirrups no longer a viable violation. Just dropping your feet to kick and kicking is a violation.

Whether its a stirrup, a pad or metal brace (like the one in your head) it helps to maintain leverage and control 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp
Title: Re: Didnt Mr Gural say Kickers were not welcome at his tracks?
Post by: helpplease on June 09, 2018, 09:01:14 AM: Quote from: Hush Limbaugh II on June 09, 2018, 12:43:32 AM
Whether its a stirrup, a pad or metal brace (like the one in your head) it helps to maintain leverage and control 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp

Yes, & it's still called a stirrup.
Title: Re: Didnt Mr Gural say Kickers were not welcome at his tracks?
Post by: HHTremor on June 09, 2018, 12:57:58 PM: Quote from: Kirby's Ace on June 09, 2018, 12:24:52 AM
Sorry, But they have not had so called "stirrups" on racebikes in years, Now it's just a metal bar to brace your foot against. So really having your foot out of the stirrups no longer a viable violation. Just dropping your feet to kick and kicking is a violation.

USTA Rule Book 2018/2019 Page 66 reads:

(f) Stirrups
1.   Each sulky shall be equipped with two stirrups or foot supports.
2.   Each stirrup or foot support shall not be more than 8" wide.
3.   The stirrups or foot supports shall be attached to the inside of each
shaft no closer than 30" from stirrup or foot support to stirrup or foot
support. (Also See—Subsection (c) 2.)

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Title: Re: Didnt Mr Gural say Kickers were not welcome at his tracks?
Post by: HHTremor on June 09, 2018, 01:05:43 PM: USTA Rule Book 2018/2019 Page 63 Reads:

§ 18.08 Improper Conduct/Foot Out of Stirrup.—Improper conduct is
forbidden in a race. After the starting gate is in motion, both feet must be kept in
the stirrups until after the finish of the race, except that a driver shall be allowed
to remove a foot from the stirrups temporarily for the purpose of pulling earplugs.