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Title: why should meadowlands horsemen get a penny of sports betting
Post by: PIGLAND on May 20, 2018, 10:31:16 AM
horsemen wont fix thier own sport and keep begging for more welfare
Title: Re: why should meadowlands horsemen get a penny of sports betting
Post by: Hush Limbaugh II on May 20, 2018, 10:39:46 AM
horsemen wont fix thier own sport and keep begging for more welfare

And the number 1 mouth is Jeeeefffiiieeee Gooooofffrrrraaaa lllll.

If the Heeb would learn to (https://pre00.deviantart.net/05eb/th/pre/f/2012/242/0/1/ron_swanson___shut_your_damn_mouth_by_joyu12-d5cxzmc.jpg).

In other words, less of Jeeeefffiiieeee Gooooofffrrrraaaa lllll might mean MORE for harness racing  11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp
Title: Re: why should meadowlands horsemen get a penny of sports betting
Post by: Ohracing on May 20, 2018, 12:19:16 PM
The Horsemen aren't entitled to anything.  The law they passed gave them nothing so why would anyone give up something they dont have to give up. 
Title: Re: why should meadowlands horsemen get a penny of sports betting
Post by: buffalo believer on May 20, 2018, 12:41:06 PM
They won't get a dime from sports. 
Title: Re: why should meadowlands horsemen get a penny of sports betting
Post by: TTitans1 on May 20, 2018, 12:49:28 PM
It`s only going to help end it faster.
Title: Re: why should meadowlands horsemen get a penny of sports betting
Post by: Fatboy on May 20, 2018, 01:03:57 PM
THEY SHOW UP EVERY RACE SO PAY THEM
Title: Re: why should meadowlands horsemen get a penny of sports betting
Post by: Inside The Pylons on May 20, 2018, 01:20:15 PM
horsemen wont fix thier own sport and keep begging for more welfare

Todays horsemen don't think it is their job to clean anything up. Just show up with their hands out, palms up.
Title: Re: why should meadowlands horsemen get a penny of sports betting
Post by: MR.DALRAE on May 20, 2018, 03:14:13 PM
JEFF AINT GIVING THE HORSEMAN ANYTHING,,,,,HIS TRACK RECORD SPEAKS FOR ITSELF
Title: Re: why should meadowlands horsemen get a penny of sports betting
Post by: PIGLAND on May 20, 2018, 04:04:27 PM
Todays horsemen don't think it is their job to clean anything up. Just show up with their hands out, palms up.
agree,rather give to bums standing out side at shopping malls and exits off the highway
Title: Re: why should meadowlands horsemen get a penny of sports betting
Post by: Fatboy on May 20, 2018, 04:06:50 PM
agree,rather give to bums standing out side at shopping malls and exits off the highway

TRACKS CLOSE AND THEY WILL BE THERE
SO JUST GIVE NOW
THANX
Title: Re: why should meadowlands horsemen get a penny of sports betting
Post by: Calhoun on May 20, 2018, 04:16:03 PM
JEFF AINT GIVING THE HORSEMAN ANYTHING,,,,,HIS TRACK RECORD SPEAKS FOR ITSELF
Ne spent $90 Million to save harness racing.  He got a right to recoup.
Title: Re: why should meadowlands horsemen get a penny of sports betting
Post by: MR.DALRAE on May 20, 2018, 04:19:51 PM
LOOKS LIKE A BAD MOVE
Title: Re: why should meadowlands horsemen get a penny of sports betting
Post by: horses first on May 20, 2018, 04:20:52 PM
Why is this just about the Meadowlands. Shouldn't it be all of the tracks that get slot welfare or ON that gets tax payer bailout. Gural still pushing for the 30mln that they received from AC before Christie put a stop to it. Maybe the tracks should be able to grew and sell marijuana legally. Also set up brothels on track property and those revenues can be a subsidy to purses.
Title: Re: why should meadowlands horsemen get a penny of sports betting
Post by: Superfecta on May 20, 2018, 05:25:43 PM
Why is this just about the Meadowlands. Shouldn't it be all of the tracks that get slot welfare or ON that gets tax payer bailout. Gural still pushing for the 30mln that they received from AC before Christie put a stop to it. Maybe the tracks should be able to grew and sell marijuana legally. Also set up brothels on track property and those revenues can be a subsidy to purses.

I like this. At least they are working for the money.
Now if Stacey Chiodo is the only available worker will there be a discount for the extra luggage ?
Title: Re: why should meadowlands horsemen get a penny of sports betting
Post by: MsO on May 20, 2018, 05:28:52 PM
Ne spent $90 Million to save harness racing.  He got a right to recoup.

You think he did it for harness racing rather than himself? Don’t be silly. If the labor of horsemen wasn’t enriching him, fine. But horsemen should also have the same right to recoup their investments that he’s currently capitalizing on. It’s a two-way street. Nevertheless I agree with MR. DALRAE. It turned out to be a bad investment, after all. And them’s the breaks. It’s definitely going to hurt harness racing in a big big way.
People would much rather bet on a product they’re emotionally invested in. How harness will compete against can-do rah-rah home-town spirit and camaraderie, I do not know. But it’s a seriously tall order. My question is how that impacts the casinos that rely on racing to operate. Either they’ll do something to save racing for their own sakes or maneuver to establish independence from it, I figure.
Title: Re: why should meadowlands horsemen get a penny of sports betting
Post by: Superfecta on May 20, 2018, 05:31:19 PM
Does MsO stand for MsOrgasm, the Tioga Downs hooker???
Title: Re: why should meadowlands horsemen get a penny of sports betting
Post by: Fatboy on May 20, 2018, 05:35:14 PM
You think he did it for harness racing rather than himself? Don’t be silly. If the labor of horsemen wasn’t enriching him, fine. But horsemen should also have the same right to recoup their investments that he’s currently capitalizing on. It’s a two-way street. Nevertheless I agree with MR. DALRAE. It turned out to be a bad investment, after all. And them’s the breaks. It’s definitely going to hurt harness racing in a big big way.
People would much rather bet on a product they’re emotionally invested in. How harness will compete against can-do rah-rah home-town spirit and camaraderie, I do not know. But it’s a seriously tall order. My question is how that impacts the casinos that rely on racing to operate. Either they’ll do something to save racing for their own sakes or maneuver to establish independence from it, I figure.


SHOULD CONVICTED FELONS GET A PENNY? WHAT ABOUT CHEATS? CANT GET EMPLOYED BY CASINO BUT HAFTA GET PURSES FROM THEM 73cv.2
Title: Re: why should meadowlands horsemen get a penny of sports betting
Post by: MsO on May 20, 2018, 05:52:34 PM
SHOULD CONVICTED FELONS GET A PENNY? WHAT ABOUT CHEATS? CANT GET EMPLOYED BY CASINO BUT HAFTA GET PURSES FROM THEM 73cv.2

If they can get licensed by the state they’re not excluded, am I right? So what are you talking about?  And yes, everyone “should” absolutely be compensated for their work and investment in the sport that’s earning for others. What possible problem could you have with that?
Title: Re: why should meadowlands horsemen get a penny of sports betting
Post by: horses first on May 20, 2018, 05:53:07 PM
A bad investment? Wasn't he given a back door after X years of 105 or 110% of his investment. Sure he loses the purse money he has put into the last few years. Whether it was 10 or 15mln. If a investor has deep enough pockets and was willing to keep the track open and going with chances of slots. Most make that deal. Sure he was unfortunate to reach into his pockets the last few years to keep purses funded. However he is given a shot with sports wagering to recoup that loss. I would have to go back to the original deal but believe he had a out at some point. I would take that risk reward 10 out of 10 times.
Title: Re: why should meadowlands horsemen get a penny of sports betting
Post by: Fatboy on May 20, 2018, 06:21:38 PM
If they can get licensed by the state they’re not excluded, am I right? So what are you talking about?  And yes, everyone “should” absolutely be compensated for their work and investment in the sport that’s earning for others. What possible problem could you have with that?

YOU HADTA ASK? CASINO IS DISCRIMINATING UNDER GUISE OF PROTECTIONS EXCLUDING PEOPLE THAT HAVE CHANGED AND NEED WORK? WAS THAT SO HARD?
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