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Title: Ron Burke has had his feelings hurt.
Post by: PineHurstPacer on June 08, 2023, 06:53:53 PM
https://twitter.com/RonBurkeRacing/status/1665344853469806592
Title: Re: Ron Burke has had his feelings hurt.
Post by: Generation XYZ on June 08, 2023, 06:56:34 PM
https://twitter.com/RonBurkeRacing/status/1665344853469806592

Maybe he should go pout in the corner.
Title: Re: Ron Burke has had his feelings hurt.
Post by: Superfecta on June 08, 2023, 07:04:35 PM
Hey Ron, GSAC
Title: Re: Ron Burke has had his feelings hurt.
Post by: onabrake on June 08, 2023, 07:22:09 PM
Did touch a nerve.... a month gap between tweets and this is what he puts out. Do JK Victory and Brookview Bolt run off the screen this weekend? He WILL be working extra hard.
Title: Re: Ron Burke has had his feelings hurt.
Post by: Generation XYZ on June 08, 2023, 07:40:43 PM
Did touch a nerve.... a month gap between tweets and this is what he puts out. Do JK Victory and Brookview Bolt run off the screen this weekend? He WILL be working extra hard.

LOL Good Point. But Gaskin's statements are by no means ungrateful or out of line.
Title: Re: Ron Burke has had his feelings hurt.
Post by: Fuguzzi on June 08, 2023, 08:22:58 PM
Is Emily Gaskin, by any chance, related to Ernie Gaskin who use to train for Billy Haughton Stable?
Title: Re: Ron Burke has had his feelings hurt.
Post by: Generation XYZ on June 08, 2023, 08:33:05 PM
Is Emily Gaskin, by any chance, related to Ernie Gaskin who use to train for Billy Haughton Stable?

Good question. I think she's from Ohio originally was Ernie from the midwest?
Title: Re: Ron Burke has had his feelings hurt.
Post by: The Thorn on June 08, 2023, 08:38:35 PM
Don't know where Gaskin was from originally but he WAS Billy Haughtons listed first trainer at YR and RR somewhere around the time of Billy's death and I believe she is his daughter
Title: Re: Ron Burke has had his feelings hurt.
Post by: Generation XYZ on June 08, 2023, 08:42:45 PM
Don't know where Gaskin was from originally but he WAS Billy Haughtons listed first trainer at YR and RR somewhere around the time of Billy's death and I believe she is his daughter

Yep, your right.

by Victoria M. Howard

Harness racing is nothing new to Emily Gaskin Ratcliff. At one time, her father, Ernie, trained for the late, great Billy Haughton. In fact, that is where he met his future wife and Emily’s mother.

Today, Ernie is one of the leading trainers at the Anderson, IN harness racetrack Harrah’s Hoosier Park.
Title: Re: Ron Burke has had his feelings hurt.
Post by: Generation XYZ on June 08, 2023, 08:43:38 PM
https://twitter.com/RonBurkeRacing/status/1665344853469806592

Burke could grow a pair Bitch less and be a Sportsman.
Title: Re: Ron Burke has had his feelings hurt.
Post by: pocketrocketwinner on June 08, 2023, 09:32:54 PM
Burke could grow a pair Bitch less and be a Sportsman.

He's using his large stable presence as leverage. If on air handicappers comment poorly about him, he will just threaten to pull horses. Microcosm here of the entire industry
Title: Re: Ron Burke has had his feelings hurt.
Post by: rainman2 on June 08, 2023, 09:35:17 PM
He's using his large stable presence as leverage. If on air handicappers comment poorly about him, he will just threaten to pull horses. Microcosm here of the entire industry

1 less horse in each races makes it better/easier for everyone else!
Title: Re: Ron Burke has had his feelings hurt.
Post by: White Rabbit on June 08, 2023, 09:48:59 PM
Does anyone know if Burke ships in or is stabled on the grounds at HP?
Title: Re: Ron Burke has had his feelings hurt.
Post by: Fuguzzi on June 08, 2023, 09:59:17 PM
Yep, your right.

by Victoria M. Howard

Harness racing is nothing new to Emily Gaskin Ratcliff. At one time, her father, Ernie, trained for the late, great Billy Haughton. In fact, that is where he met his future wife and Emily’s mother.

Today, Ernie is one of the leading trainers at the Anderson, IN harness racetrack Harrah’s Hoosier Park.
Ty for the answer to my question.  Yeo, he was listed in the programs for sure along with Al"Apples" Thomas. I remeber watching the haughton stable train in sets - Ernie, Apples, Ben Steall, Donnie Miller and Billy   Usually 5 or 6 horses training as a group on the main track - it got crowded in those days - lol  Each horse would pull out and pass the group for like 3/8ths and then another horse would do the same. Sometimes they would fan out at the end. you had to be alert if you were jogging one. But, hey it was the Haughtons.
Title: Re: Ron Burke has had his feelings hurt.
Post by: Generation XYZ on June 08, 2023, 10:03:46 PM
Ty for the answer to my question.  Yeo, he was listed in the programs for sure along with Al"Apples" Thomas. I remeber watching the haughton stable train in sets - Ernie, Apples, Ben Steall, Donnie Miller and Billy   Usually 5 or 6 horses training as a group on the main track - it got crowded in those days - lol  Each horse would pull out and pass the group for like 3/8ths and then another horse would do the same. Sometimes they would fan out at the end. you had to be alert if you were jogging one. But, hey it was the Haughtons.

Pretty cool. Some of the big guys still train that way in Florida during the winter months. Enjoyable to watch.
Title: Re: Ron Burke has had his feelings hurt.
Post by: Fuguzzi on June 08, 2023, 10:08:06 PM
Pretty cool. Some of the big guys still train that way in Florida during the winter months. Enjoyable to watch.
Cool!   TY  Hard to put into words how much I miss those days. Harness racing 1980 to 2000   give or take a few years was, at least to my way of thinking, the best ever. I lived and breathed it every second of every day. I just cant feel the same way about today's product.
Title: Re: Ron Burke has had his feelings hurt.
Post by: Generation XYZ on June 08, 2023, 10:19:11 PM
Cool!   TY  Hard to put into words how much I miss those days. Harness racing 1980 to 2000   give or take a few years was, at least to my way of thinking, the best ever. I lived and breathed it every second of every day. I just cant feel the same way about today's product.

Svanstedts train that way at his farm, but a majority of the Swedes still train in that style.
Title: Re: Ron Burke has had his feelings hurt.
Post by: White Rabbit on June 09, 2023, 07:03:42 AM
Does anyone know if Burke ships in or is stabled on the grounds at HP?
They do have cameras all the barn area now@ HP
Title: Re: Ron Burke has had his feelings hurt.
Post by: Generation XYZ on June 09, 2023, 08:57:54 AM
Does anyone know if Burke ships in or is stabled on the grounds at HP?
They do have cameras all the barn area now@ HP

He was shipping in from a training center nearby, and from his Ohio barn.
Title: Re: Ron Burke has had his feelings hurt.
Post by: seen2much on June 09, 2023, 09:03:26 AM
I looked up stats on Trackmaster. Burke started 0-27 at Hoosier. It's strange since he was killing it everywhere else.
Title: Re: Ron Burke has had his feelings hurt.
Post by: Generation XYZ on June 09, 2023, 09:31:01 AM
From 01/01/2023 thru 06/09/2023            
Burke Ron   40   6   5   8
                     15%   13%   20%

Thats an interesting drop in performance.
Title: Re: Ron Burke has had his feelings hurt.
Post by: Senator Blutarsky on June 09, 2023, 11:27:10 AM
The whining and moaning, blabbing, was the start of Richard "Rick" E. Dutrow's Jr. downfall, where he got ev1s attention with Big Brown, steroids, Belmont Stakes performance - the Congressional committee 15 years ago - and he was a die hard gonna show and testify....

Until he got very sick, and then banded!  ngc3
Title: Re: Ron Burke has had his feelings hurt.
Post by: Calhoun on June 09, 2023, 11:29:42 AM
I looked up stats on Trackmaster. Burke started 0-27 at Hoosier. It's strange since he was killing it everywhere else.
That's not a lot of starters.  2nds/3rds? 
Title: Re: Ron Burke has had his feelings hurt.
Post by: Generation XYZ on June 09, 2023, 11:35:54 AM
The whining and moaning, blabbing, was the start of Richard "Rick" E. Dutrow's Jr. downfall, where he got ev1s attention with Big Brown, steroids, Belmont Stakes performance - the Congressional committee 15 years ago - and he was a die hard gonna show and testify....

Until he got very sick, and then banded!  ngc3

That's exactly what happened, but finding it hard to believe he was 100% out of horse business and racing until his recent return. Suddenly he has owners sending horses from other good trainers, and a barn full at Monmouth and Belmont. But he believes it only appears coincidental.  ngc3
Title: Re: Ron Burke has had his feelings hurt.
Post by: shotgunner on June 09, 2023, 11:38:08 AM
When Macomber left, Burke started downsizing his Indiana operation I think. Doesn’t buy too manny babies out there now compared to a few years back.

But really, who wants to ship in to a place and being told your horses are auto tosses from someone employed by the track?
Title: Re: Ron Burke has had his feelings hurt.
Post by: Generation XYZ on June 09, 2023, 11:40:54 AM
When Macomber left, Burke started downsizing his Indiana operation I think. Doesn’t buy too manny babies out there now compared to a few years back.

But really, who wants to ship in to a place and being told your horses are auto tosses from someone employed by the track?

The economics of his base in PA, NJ, and OH. Is pretty much the main focus. It doesnt make much sense to race in IN.
Title: Re: Ron Burke has had his feelings hurt.
Post by: Senator Blutarsky on June 09, 2023, 11:42:22 AM
That's exactly what happened, but finding it hard to believe he was 100% out of horse business and racing until his recent return. Suddenly he has owners sending horses from other good trainers, and a barn full at Monmouth and Belmont. But he believes it only appears coincidental.  ngc3

Good point, maybe he deployed a beard colony upon exit!  73cv.2

He won his very "official" race back too, not that great ever since.  HP members were too distracted to catch his return before it happened.

https://www.equibase.com/profiles/Results.cfm?type=People&searchType=T&eID=110865

What makes this a great forum if we focus we catch things as they're happening, also fearless to pick up a phone / use email and call a track, trainer, driver and get the 411 on whatever is on our mind, or go wild on regulatory.  tmbz1
Title: Re: Ron Burke has had his feelings hurt.
Post by: Superfecta on June 09, 2023, 12:30:52 PM


What makes this a great forum if we focus we catch things as they're happening, also fearless to pick up a phone / use email and call a track, trainer, driver and get the 411 on whatever is on our mind, or go wild on regulatory.  tmbz1

I find that when you call a track, trainer or driver you are always spoken down to and lied to so I don’t bother anymore. That’s also why the trainer/driver interviews usually suck. More lies most of the time.
Title: Re: Ron Burke has had his feelings hurt.
Post by: Senator Blutarsky on June 09, 2023, 12:40:04 PM
I find that when you call a track, trainer or driver you are always spoken down to and lied to so I don’t bother anymore. That’s also why the trainer/driver interviews usually suck. More lies most of the time.

I've never had that experience thus far and reported my back and forth communications herein.

The racing secretary at Jonkers now ignoring us is another story, when he's ripped in front of his parent company MGMIR and the media...he can go find something else to do.....definitely inside dealing going on there with selective horseman / parties - and the shittiest racing with the highest purses.

Joe Frasure Jr., fuck you pal!   ;D

Title: Re: Ron Burke has had his feelings hurt.
Post by: Generation XYZ on June 09, 2023, 03:24:00 PM
I find that when you call a track, trainer or driver you are always spoken down to and lied to so I don’t bother anymore. That’s also why the trainer/driver interviews usually suck. More lies most of the time.

Unless you get greg peck behind a camera with a mic...lol
Title: Re: Ron Burke has had his feelings hurt.
Post by: Calhoun on June 09, 2023, 03:28:16 PM
I find that when you call a track, trainer or driver you are always spoken down to and lied to so I don’t bother anymore. That’s also why the trainer/driver interviews usually suck. More lies most of the time.
99.9% of race track employees are lazy As Fuck.

They would much rather lie to you if doing so allows them to keep their fat ass immobile.

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