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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: Larry Bird Boy on July 15, 2023, 11:39:04 PM
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Not many of the owners even attend the track much anymore with it being mostly just an investment and in most cases racing away from the owners home state anyways. The winners circle pics and all of the hoopla just takes too much time. There is only a few hundred people at the track anyway so why not eliminate the unnecessary win photos and winners circle crap? I’m just saying.......
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Very stupid suggestion.
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The OWNERS are the ones who want the pictures after a win, as I can tell you first hand. The main item is the horse in the photos. The number of people at the track has NOTHING to do with a winning picture.
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Not many of the owners even attend the track much anymore with it being mostly just an investment and in most cases racing away from the owners home state anyways. The winners circle pics and all of the hoopla just takes too much time. There is only a few hundred people at the track anyway so why not eliminate the unnecessary win photos and winners circle crap? I’m just saying.......
Any idea how much $$$ this puts into racing and the economy? Asking for a friend!
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But half the guys at Hoosier don’t even go in the winners circle. I watched tonight at least half of the races the driver just slowed down and the photographer just snapped a photo. It’s a waste of time and money.
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Any idea how much $$$ this puts into racing and the economy? Asking for a friend!
Most of the owners aren’t ven there or live in a different state. Plus the tracks rape the owners for $20-$40 dollars for a .99 cent lecture at Walmart. It’s just a big ripoff and waste of time.
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YOU may not care but I guarantee you the owners do!
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Most of the owners aren’t ven there or live in a different state. Plus the tracks rape the owners for $20-$40 dollars for a .99 cent lecture at Walmart. It’s just a big ripoff and waste of time.
I like my expensive scrapbook of pictures/videos. Tough enough to win races to begin with! Besides, many owners like saying 'cheese' in the winners circle if they are fortunate enough to be there!
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YOU may not care but I guarantee you the owners do!
I mean really you can snap a pic of your horse on your iPhone and take it to Walmart or Walgreens and get the same pic for 99 cents. It’s a rip off the prices they charge owners for a pic.
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YOU may not care but I guarantee you the owners do!
Part of the price of admission in owning horses!
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Part of the price of admission in owning horses!
You can snap a pic on your iPhone and go to Walmart and get the same pic for 99 cents.
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Bongiorno had little blackness in winners cir le with him couple weeks back at jolunkwrs...inmat es in training
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This takes little time, in the 20 mins. between races, which is usually delayed for starters timing. Really a non-issue. if the owner wants the picture they pay, if they don't then they don't order them.
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Porkie Loves when people go in just to say cheese and don't buy a pic..
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Stupid thread! Please move to the stupid thread category!
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Stupid thread! Please move to the stupid thread category!
here's the issue in the win circle. A lot of stables expect their grooms to look decent when they smile at the WIN circle holding the horse. However, a lot of paddock helpers put out a poor representation for their trainer and owner. It really is time for the sport to look like there are hundreds of thousand dollars of trained equine athletes on any single night.
The issue isn't whether of not to photograph. It's rewarding the team and owner with a decent picture off their investment.
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The time it takes for the photos is irrelevant most of the time as times between races are set and it doesn't matter what you do in between. The only times a ceremony can hold up the next race would be for major stakes races and you know that there HAS to be pictures etc for those.
Yeah they overcharge for the pictures but thats old news, tracks have been overcharging for stuff like that since the beginning of time.
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A lot of stables expect their grooms to look decent.
How in the fuck can you do that?
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A lot of stables expect their grooms to look decent.
How in the fuck can you do that?
Like most drivers (or anyone else in the stable) i started out as a groom. Years of cleaning stalls and forking shit 365 days a year. Its a dirty job. And anyone who has ever paddocked a horse knows what a wet sloppy job that is. Youre dealing with sweaty horses and buckets of water. Expecting a groom to show up in the winners circle looking like they just stepped off a plane to Monaco is unrealistic
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here's the issue in the win circle. A lot of stables expect their grooms to look decent when they smile at the WIN circle holding the horse. However, a lot of paddock helpers put out a poor representation for their trainer and owner. It really is time for the sport to look like there are hundreds of thousand dollars of trained equine athletes on any single night.
The issue isn't whether of not to photograph. It's rewarding the team and owner with a decent picture off their investment.
Its 90 degrees outside and you're in a building with a few fans blowing hot air and you're not supposed to be sweating when you go to the winner's circle to catch your horse?
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Stupid idea, owners want pictures, why do you care? Why does a win photo bother you. There is nothing to gain, other than some pissed off owners.
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here's the issue in the win circle. A lot of stables expect their grooms to look decent when they smile at the WIN circle holding the horse. However, a lot of paddock helpers put out a poor representation for their trainer and owner. It really is time for the sport to look like there are hundreds of thousand dollars of trained equine athletes on any single night.
The issue isn't whether of not to photograph. It's rewarding the team and owner with a decent picture off their investment.
Maybe you should expand this to track ownership, when you have Gural standing in the Winners Circle with Confederate, With a shirt untucked. Or Bowden from diamond creek in shorts. C'mon add some class to the dress code for a stakes race. This isnt overnights.
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Maybe you should expand this to track ownership, when you have Gural standing in the Winners Circle with Confederate, With a shirt untucked. Or Bowden from diamond creek in shorts. C'mon add some class to the dress code for a stakes race. This isnt overnights.
Spot on. My wife was surprised at the outfit the Diamond Creek guy wore Gural is a slob, so no expectations there. Loved Jess in the red strapless dress!wink wink
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A lot of stables expect their grooms to look decent.
How in the fuck can you do that?
Give 'em a smock to wear for the picture. Typically, you're making a difficulty out of a simpled
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When the Meadowlands opened in 76 every winning owner received a free winners circle picture.
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The pictures are unnecessary. Most of the owners are just investors and don’t need a picture of a juiced up horse out of its mind. Plus it’s a safety issue today and with concerns of germs and disease like Covid, just skip the winners circle and the owner can have the trainer snap a pic at the farm and save him money by going to Walmart and get whatever they want for 99 cents. Just because the track has been scamming the owners for years doesn’t mean it has to continue.
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Anyone bitching about pictures has never owned horses.
If you want to save time, try addressing post drag.
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spot on buddy
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The pictures are unnecessary. Most of the owners are just investors and don’t need a picture of a juiced up horse out of its mind. Plus it’s a safety issue today and with concerns of germs and disease like Covid, just skip the winners circle and the owner can have the trainer snap a pic at the farm and save him money by going to Walmart and get whatever they want for 99 cents. Just because the track has been scamming the owners for years doesn’t mean it has to continue.
Track not scamming anyone. It's the photographer who charges for the picture and if you don't want to pay..Dont order. Go to the far with your phone and take one the next day! Like you said.
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Track not scamming anyone. It's the photographer who charges for the picture and if you don't want to pay..Dont order. Go to the far with your phone and take one the next day! Like you said.
I think the tracks get a certain amount of money from every pic that the photographer sells
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Give 'em a smock to wear for the picture. Typically, you're making a difficulty out of a simpled
At least the tuxedo T Shirt
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At least the tuxedo T Shirt
xactly. on the tux t
AND! to all the detractors. Not only do the owners enjoy a trip to the W circle. There are a whole lot of grooms and caretakers that are devoted to those horses. They put in a whole lot of effort every day of the week. They have great pride when they hop on the golf cart and arrive to catch their charge, lead him around the circle and smile for the camera.
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I'd recommend Tweety Bird giving the finger!
73cv.2
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xactly. on the tux t
AND! to all the detractors. Not only do the owners enjoy a trip to the W circle. There are a whole lot of grooms and caretakers that are devoted to those horses. They put in a whole lot of effort every day of the week. They have great pride when they hop on the golf cart and arrive to catch their charge, lead him around the circle and smile for the camera.
GOD DAMN RIGHT
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xactly. on the tux t
AND! to all the detractors. Not only do the owners enjoy a trip to the W circle. There are a whole lot of grooms and caretakers that are devoted to those horses. They put in a whole lot of effort every day of the week. They have great pride when they hop on the golf cart and arrive to catch their charge, lead him around the circle and smile for the camera.
They can take better pics each morning while giving their horse a bath or walking out of the barn for a morning jog and go right to Walmart for 99 cents and get as many pics up close and personal. Just no need for all the bs and nonsense in winners circle full of lowlifes and thugs reaching into their waistbands showing they are carrying a pistol or flashing gang signs at the camera. Just eliminate that crap and call it a day.
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Larry, are you a spokesman for Walmart? You sure are pushing the 99 cent photo specials
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Who is it hurting to snap a winners picture? I think this is a dumb idea. There are so many other things to fix in harness racing. Taking a picture is not one of them.
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Three full pages for this ridiculous thread. A dozen years ago this topic would have been axed ASAP. Pathetic.
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I would vote Worst Post Ever if there was an election of sorts. Bashing winners circle celebrations and picture takes is almost un-american.
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Back in the day patrons would swarm the circle every race. The regulars would bring the family on the weekends and the kids just wanted to be as close to the horses as possible. By the end of the card there would be kids with whips running up the stretch with the field as the crowd thinned out. Now that I am retired I don't regret getting the pictures at all. Sometimes a little bit of reminiscing is good for the soul!