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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: Miguel_Sanchez on March 09, 2024, 10:21:50 PM
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Wow - those two horses that they did the USTA article on are skunks. Better take them back to the meadows and pray. Racing them two at YR will be donating entry fees to someone else.
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Wow - those two horses that they did the USTA article on are skunks. Better take them back to the meadows and pray. Racing them two at YR will be donating entry fees to someone else.
Fourever Boy is a killer, not sure about the mare.
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Fourever Boy is a killer, not sure about the mare.
You have low standards for a killer. Especially the way he raced tonight. He goes to YR next week he won't be within five lengths of the top 3.
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You have low standards for a killer. Especially the way he raced tonight. He goes to YR next week he won't be within five lengths of the top 3.
Throwing a bad race doesn’t make him a bad horse.
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This horse had a brutal schedule last year and I think that the only time he was resting and recovering was the Xmas and new years holidays! Forever Cooked??? All the symptoms are saying For sure! 73cv.2
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Throwing a bad race doesn’t make him a bad horse.
Almost looked like a glorified qualifier. And the mare TREACHEROUS PENNY was not competitive at Yonkers on Friday. Why are they doing on articles about non-competitive horses?
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They COOKED Eddie Sweat the same way, GREED. He raced over his head, he could become a really nice raceway horse. Learn a lesson from the past mistake. TT you know what happened the 1st time with stupid Eddie, thought you'd have learned.
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Horse couldn't beat a slightly above average field of upper condition pacers. And he thinks he will be competitive in the Borgata? If he doesn't draw the 1 or 2 he won't get a check. Sounds like a waste of money and time unless they were really slow-playing their hand in last night's race.
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Fourever Boy has to be the most overrated almost millionaire out there.
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This horse had a brutal schedule last year and I think that the only time he was resting and recovering was the Xmas and new years holidays! Forever Cooked??? All the symptoms are saying For sure! 73cv.2
If they have cooked him that’s a real shame. He’s a real talent.
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Haven't seen the colt since last year. He made a lot of money being in the right place at the right time, and several times, LOL. He's not a top horse, but he's no POS either. Had some talent, raced pretty good, pretty tough for a short run there. But he's raced...a lot! I think when he's right, fit, and properly placed, he can put himself in a position to pick up big checks. That's what he's done his entire career, LOL. And once in a while, he'll win a decent race, maybe even a big one if he gets lucky or trips out. Even a blind squirrel finds a nut.
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far as i know they dont have to give back the $1m the horse has made
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far as i know they dont have to give back the $1m the horse has made
You got that right!
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I'll take a horse who makes a million any day of the week.
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I'll take a horse who makes a million any day of the week.
Lol pretty much everyone would. But apparently he ain’t much according to the armchair experts here.
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Lol pretty much everyone would. But apparently he ain’t much according to the armchair experts here.
You are missing the point. Of course everyone would like a horse that makes a ton. But why put him in over his head in the Borgata? They used him very hard last year!
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In every race all the horses except the winner are in over their heads unless there is a dead heat.
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In every race all the horses except the winner are in over their heads unless there is a dead heat.
Not necessarily true. Claiming horse who is classified right, fits very competitively in the field, figures strong for the win, certainly on the board, etc. This horse comes in second. He gets beat by what? A better horse that day, a better trip, a horse that trips out, by any number of reasons. I say that horse is not over his/her head at all. That horse fits and is classified right. Unless there is a reason, I'd race right back in that class. I would agree however that when people can pick their spot, most -- more than half -- horses are raced over their head.
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You are missing the point. Of course everyone would like a horse that makes a ton. But why put him in over his head in the Borgata? They used him very hard last year!
You're right. Apparently Tim thinks he's not over his head, or at least wants to try and see. However, he felt the same thing last year, and at the end of the year said he could have raced/campaigned him better. We'll see pretty quickly.
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In every race all the horses except the winner are in over their heads unless there is a dead heat.
Stupid comment...lots of horse make a nice living on 2nd and 3rds. Especially in places like Yonkers and Miami Valley.
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We will all know in a few days.
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The mare was a respectable 2nd in the Matchmaker Leg 1.
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Weakest division but still better than I thought she’d be.
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You are missing the point. Of course everyone would like a horse that makes a ton. But why put him in over his head in the Borgata? They used him very hard last year!
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A delusional principle can make a quality trainer look bad!
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A delusional principle can make a very good trainer look bad!
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Fourever Boy is a really really nice horse but he's just not that caliber horse to race in Borgata.
Everyone who owns horses would love a "Fourever Boy"
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saw Forever Boy last night. It sure looks like he doesn't like the turns at yonkers. I see maybe one more start ( if that) before they race him elsewhere.
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Mare wasn't put in play tonight. Pretty nice mare.
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saw Forever Boy last night. It sure looks like he doesn't like the turns at yonkers. I see maybe one more start ( if that) before they race him elsewhere.
I agree, one more start. I'm going to throw the first start out.
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Driver passed on perfect 2nd over trip last night with Foureverboy. Theme song for Micki Rae "The grass is always greener in the other persons yard"
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Classification is the key to success. If you can't be 1, 2, 3 you're chasing checks. Samstar buys nice horses and keeps them classified, not scared to take a shot but well thought out. Not going somewhere to chase a check. Keeps small group of nice race horses and doesn't go wild or get delusional. If they don't work out he doesn't keep them, turn the page. Cut your loss. TT is a great guy and a decent trainer, thought he'd have learned last year with the horse.
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Tim to some extent comes from the John Burns school. He races his horses. 6 horse fields, a shot every week for several weeks for a decent post position. He's taking his shot. This horse can't go with the big boys so he's taking a shot while there are lesser big boys, LOL.
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After last night you would think the connections would figure out that they were better off with Twaddle then going big time. Two really nice horses that are getting punished. If you look hard at your "experts" you might find out that they have so much money that they don't care about losing it. Happy to get into grand circuit winners circle pictures and willing to pay the price and accept the losses.
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What a lackluster drive by Z on foureverboy. WTF are they doing with Tim's horses. Incompetent. The horses are shells of what they were in Tim's barn!