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Title: Moreau positive still wins award
Post by: Jazzman on February 06, 2018, 06:21:31 PM
Richard Moreau gets positive wins trainer of year Travis Cullen gets positive not eligible for awards how does this make any sense
Title: Re: Moreau positive still wins award
Post by: London on February 06, 2018, 06:44:19 PM
It doesnt...neither should get shit.
Title: Re: Moreau positive still wins award
Post by: MR.DALRAE on February 06, 2018, 08:09:50 PM
Richard is protected ,,, you can figure it out
Title: Re: Moreau positive still wins award
Post by: 791Gordy on February 06, 2018, 08:11:01 PM
Class V .  No biggy.
Title: Re: Moreau positive still wins award
Post by: wiggles44 on February 07, 2018, 05:34:13 AM
Class V .  No biggy.

yeah
drinking and driving isn't like murder
Title: Re: Moreau positive still wins award
Post by: Powerful Patricks Ghost on February 07, 2018, 06:19:14 AM
Just remember, when the whole Pena hubbub was going on, Moreau defended him. Birds of a feather...
Title: Re: Moreau positive still wins award
Post by: pylon on February 07, 2018, 10:21:05 AM
Richard Moreau gets positive wins trainer of year Travis Cullen gets positive not eligible for awards how does this make any sense

Moreau,s was a Lasix overage and Cullen got nailed 2 times within a couple of weeks with a TCO2.........just for the record
Title: Re: Moreau positive still wins award
Post by: viking55 on February 08, 2018, 11:46:38 PM
yeah
drinking and driving isn't like murder

It's not  Ask Dan Shetler. He got away with it.
Title: Re: Moreau positive still wins award
Post by: MR.DALRAE on February 08, 2018, 11:59:04 PM
A POSITIVE IS A POSITIVE IN MY BOOK
Title: Re: Moreau positive still wins award
Post by: Field_In_Motion on March 23, 2019, 09:21:00 AM
MOREAU,RICHARD                     
ON    - REDISTRIBUTE PURSE MONEY
Commission Rule Number : 18.08.01                                                                       
Date Issued : 22-MAR-2019
Violation Occurred : Race 7 at MOHAWK RACETRACK on 29-JUL-2017 horse BLATANTLY BEST


HE GETS 2 POSITIVES AND THIS IS WHAT THE AGCO COMES UP WITH. ngc3 ngc3  NO DAYS NO FINE AND HAND OVER PURSE MONEY.
I GUESS THE BAR IS SET FOR ANY FUTURE POSITIVES.

https://www.canlii.org/en/on/onhrap/doc/2019/2019canlii12929/2019canlii12929.html
Title: Re: Moreau positive still wins award
Post by: wiggles44 on March 23, 2019, 09:25:32 AM
he's part of the group

agco driving small bettors, owners, trainers out of the business one day at a time
Title: Re: Moreau positive still wins award
Post by: Field_In_Motion on March 23, 2019, 09:27:44 AM
he's part of the group

agco driving small bettors, owners, trainers out of the business one day at a time

MAYBE ALLARD & ZERON CAN APPLY FOR GROUP MEMBERSHIP. 73cv.2 73cv.2 73cv.2 73cv.2
Title: Re: Moreau positive still wins award
Post by: mwins on March 23, 2019, 09:31:20 AM
Lasix overage was probably the fault of the AGCO vet.
Title: Re: Moreau positive still wins award
Post by: wiggles44 on March 23, 2019, 09:35:53 AM
Lasix overage was probably the fault of the AGCO vet.
.......um yeah.......
like the bartender that gives you too much alcohol in your drink
 ngc3
Title: Re: Moreau positive still wins award
Post by: Duke on March 23, 2019, 11:04:13 AM
unbelievable from July 2017LIKE REALLY
Title: Re: Moreau positive still wins award
Post by: Field_In_Motion on March 23, 2019, 12:00:06 PM
AGCO stands for A Group Coddling Outlaws best way to describe their actions. Small guys fighting to keep afloat lights one up and gets the kitchen sink thrown at him. AGCO corruption through and through.
A Group Coddling Outlaws ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: Moreau positive still wins award
Post by: RWB on March 23, 2019, 03:16:25 PM
If you ain't cheating you ain't trying!!

Regards,
Lance Armstrong
Ben Johnson
Bill Robinson>>>>and almost every other horse trainer batting over .200
Title: Re: Moreau positive still wins award
Post by: slimshady on March 23, 2019, 05:25:09 PM
RWB    ….   Let's hope it ends up the same for the rest of the cheats, as it did for your 3.   
Disgraced, upper echelon LOSERS !!
Title: Re: Moreau positive still wins award
Post by: Swandre on March 23, 2019, 07:14:17 PM
there was quite a few Lasix overages that year. no one would willingly
give more Lasix, it doesn’t make any sense. why would Richard Moreau risk everything for an extra cc of Lasix? just try using some simple logic and you’ll come to find it was a bogus positive.

and anyone who sees all positives as the same is just an idiot.
Title: Re: Moreau positive still wins award
Post by: Field_In_Motion on March 24, 2019, 06:14:49 AM
As the result of an AGCO appeal, trainer Richard Moreau was found to be in
violation of a class 4 positive. AGCO rule #18.08.01 all monies earned by "Blatantly
Best" in race 7 at Mohawk on July 29, 2017 must be returned for redistribution,
SB52042.


Title: Re: Moreau positive still wins award
Post by: slimshady on March 24, 2019, 07:47:09 AM
Swandre  ….   pick any month of the year and see what % of Moreau horses are on lasix.

If you can't see the facts in the data, you must have a horse in his barn.
Title: Re: Moreau positive still wins award
Post by: Brown jug on March 24, 2019, 08:16:27 AM
well first of all that would have certainly cost some lawyer fees
i am not a trainer
however my understanding is that lasix is administered by a vet at the track so hard to fully blame moreau for that, not even close to being caught with a banned substance
now if we are talking about moreau using lasix to mask other drugs that is a different discussion but not relevant to this specific case

Title: Re: Moreau positive still wins award
Post by: Field_In_Motion on March 24, 2019, 08:59:45 AM
PEOPLE HAVE BEEN USING LASIX ON THEIR OWN FOR YEARS TO MASK OTHER DRUGS,WHAT'S IT COST LIKE 60-80 IN ONTARIO AND LIKE 15$ IN LOCALLY IN THE USA
CLASS 4 USUALLY CARRY 5 DAYS AND $500 WHICH ISN'T A BIG DEAL NO MATTER HOW YOU SLICE IT. IF THE BLAME IS ON THE VET WHY WOULD THEY WANT TO REDISTRIBUTE THE PURSE MONEY?
Title: Re: Moreau positive still wins award
Post by: mwins on March 24, 2019, 10:18:52 AM
Why would they redistribute the purse?

Really, you don't know why? Because there was a violation. For the other owners in that race, this is the only fair outcome.

No fine, no suspension, because it probably was a mistake by the track vet.

To those of you who think Moreau wins all his races due to extra Lasix, you need to wake up. If the AGCO finds him with unmarked syringes or a blood machine, I will be the first to call for his lynching. Until then, this is fake news.
Title: Re: Moreau positive still wins award
Post by: wiggles44 on March 24, 2019, 12:35:11 PM
i don't recall any other class four positive tests to just give the money back and that's it
Title: Re: Moreau positive still wins award
Post by: Field_In_Motion on March 24, 2019, 01:05:49 PM
i don't recall any other class four positive tests to just give the money back and that's it

YOU'RE CORRECT MOST HAVE $ AND DAYS ATTACHED.
https://www.canlii.org/en/on/onhrap/
Title: Re: Moreau positive still wins award
Post by: slimshady on March 25, 2019, 06:50:43 PM
As usual  ....   The little guy gets it worse than the big boy !!

NOSTADT,TYLER J                   
ON    - INELIGIBLE TO BE LICENSED UNTIL RETURN OF ALL PURSE MONIES(SB38099)
Commission Rule Number : 5.11, 9.13, 18.08.01                                                           
Date Issued : 24-MAR-2019

MOREAU,RICHARD                     
ON    - REDISTRIBUTE PURSE MONEY
Commission Rule Number : 18.08.01                                                                       
Date Issued : 22-MAR-2019
Violation Occurred : Race 7 at MOHAWK RACETRACK on 29-JUL-2017 horse BLATANTLY BEST
Title: Re: Moreau positive still wins award
Post by: Sue Lorella on March 25, 2019, 08:04:26 PM
WIGGLES, FIELD IN MOTION, SLIM SHADDY = LOUKNOWSNOTHIN.

BROTHER HATES MOREAU-GASSIE-PANTALANO-CEASSAR.  LOVES THE BBQ NOSTADAD GIRL. BROTHER NEEDS TO 11.wj 11.wj 11.wj 11.wj 11.wj 11.wj 11.wj 11.wj 11.wj SUM MORE. 

 
Title: Re: Moreau positive still wins award
Post by: JOHN FRANK on March 25, 2019, 08:55:25 PM
HE or SHE the BAFFERT in STANDARDS.
Title: Re: Moreau positive still wins award
Post by: slimshady on March 26, 2019, 08:27:40 AM
WIGGLES, FIELD IN MOTION, SLIM SHADDY = LOUKNOWSNOTHIN.

Sue Lorella   ...     No idea what you are trying to communicate.    Good or bad.

I hate all cheats.
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