CONFEDERATE / Monday / Red Mile

[JIDGE]

Will a rabbit half, etc. from stablemate COMMAND provide the necessary fractions for a CONFEDERATE World Record, or does he even need the help?

[Larry Bird Boy]

He ain’t no bulldog Hanover. Greatest horse ever

[JIDGE]

He ain’t no bulldog Hanover. Greatest horse ever

Bulldog did it at 4 -- 3yr old WR is 46.4.  Yes, Bulldog is the fastest overall, but his 3yr old mark was 48.
The greatest ever?  That's definitely up for debate.

[Brown jug]

whoa , hold on there with the bulldog best ever, a great horse for sure
there was some pretty good ones before him
a horse named niatross comes to mind

[Fuguzzi]

Greatest Standardbred pacer of all time is not even up for debate, It is Dan Patch. One can assume he would pace in 1.42 based on what he did over a century ago. 1.55 in 1900? mind boggling. Undefetred in Open co. and at one time literally the most famous athlete alive. free legged is even more astonishing.

[JIDGE]

whoa , hold on there with the bulldog best ever, a great horse for sure
there was some pretty good ones before him
a horse named niatross comes to mind

Exactly. And others -- Bret Hanover, SBSW, etc. etc. And if you want to go further back how about the horse who forgot time -- Dan Patch. Let's keep in mind Bulldog lost 9 races throughout his career and only attained elite status at 4.

[JIDGE]

Greatest Standardbred pacer of all time is not even up for debate, It is Dan Patch. One can assume he would pace in 1.42 based on what he did over a century ago. 1.55 in 1900? mind boggling. Undefetred in Open co. and at one time literally the most famous athlete alive. free legged is even more astonishing.

Can't argue with any of that.

[Fuguzzi]

Exactly. And others -- Bret Hanover, SBSW, etc. etc. And if you want to go further back how about the horse who forgot time -- Dan Patch. Let's keep in mind Bulldog lost 9 races throughout his career and only attained elite status at 4.

If he raced Somebeachsomewher e and both were 3 year olds, SBSW would have jerked his bridle.


Very salient points Jidge

[The Thorn]

It is forecast for 95 degrees tomorrow.  Now if this was the big race in October with more money and competition as well as reputation on the line and this weather there would be no problem with a 3 year old world record. 

[Fuguzzi]

I figured he'd be barred from the wagering.

[JIDGE]

It is forecast for 95 degrees tomorrow.  Now if this was the big race in October with more money and competition as well as reputation on the line and this weather there would be no problem with a 3 year old world record.

Good point but it's easier to dictate fractions and horse placement with essentially a 2-horse entry -- no serious competition and a short 5 horse field.

[The Thorn]

He opened with 17,800 on him to win with the other four having a total of 150. 

[Fuguzzi]

If he raced Somebeachsomewher e and both were 3 year olds, SBSW would have jerked his bridle.


Very salient points Jidge

I said that backwards.

[JIDGE]

Will a rabbit half, etc. from stablemate COMMAND provide the necessary fractions for a CONFEDERATE World Record, or does he even need the help?

1:46.1   WR

3    Confederate
 3, Sweet Lou-Geothermal    3    3/3    3/4T    3/4    2/HD    1/5   1:46.1    26.0   *0.05     Tim Tetrick    Brett Pelling

5    A Cool Moment
 3, Captaintreacherou s-
 Cool Treasure    5    4/4H    4/6Q    4/5T    3/3H    2/5   1:47.1    26.3   47.05     Joey Putnam    Joe Putnam

2    Command
 3, Captaintreacherou s-
 Fable    2    2/1H    1/3    1/2H    1/HD    3/6   1:47.2    28.0   46.51     Todd McCarthy    Brett Pelling

4    Camsolution
 3, Camgrandest-Ohmybelle    4    5/6    5/8Q    5/13Q    5/10H    4/15   1:49.1    27.1   79.28     Randal Jerrell    Randal Jerrell

1    For Once Inmy Life
 3, Downbytheseaside-
 Flyme To The Moon    1    1/1H    2/3    2/2H    4/6H    5/17   1:49.3    29.4   33.41     Andrew McCarthy    Noel Daley

Time:    27.0   53.1    (26.1)   1:19.2    (26.1)   1:46.1    (26.4)

[augustaandy]

that's an incredible mile!