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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: dinkadoo on April 17, 2024, 08:24:31 AM
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Starts Wins Win %
Merriman 1,047 218 20.8
Br Beckwith 898 198 22.0
Is the driving title Beckwith is shooting for ? Is it possible for him to maintain enough drives throughout the year to stay close ? Merriman is pretty much set with Northfield and Meadows racing year round.
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In my opinion Beckwith will be the next big thing among heavily desired drivers for the Grand Circuit events. The kid is paying his dues now getting a ton of experience. In a few years he will begin replacing a lot of today’s biggest stars.
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Not even AM league
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From what I have heard, Beckwith is a very polished 21 year old. Polite to all and appreciates the opportunity he is getting. Too many of the top drivers today have attitudes. Not him.
Plus you don't see him rocking in the bike, or whipping to the max allowed. It's almost like the pro golfer or the pro baseball player with the perfect swing. He's able to put horses in good spots and has great hands. . He won't beat out Merriman in yearly wins purely because he can't drive in as many races. But- you will see his name as one of the top drivers around for many many years to come.
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guess who was the same way when he was 21???
aaron merriman
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Does anyone know Merriman's main account at the Meadows and his main account at Northfield? All these top guys are good. Horsepower helps even more
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Does anyone know Merriman's main account at the Meadows and his main account at Northfield? All these top guys are good. Horsepower helps even more
Rhoades at northfield
.kahrig lately at meadows.
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Beckwith tried The Meadowlands this winter. Weren't really a factor drives his father's horses. Hard to believe there are running on oats water.
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aaron drives for a number of people at the meadows. the only people he is 100% loyal to is the bercurys. i know they only have a few horses but he will never choose off a bercury horse.
rhoades at northfield
why does ronnie wrenn not drive everyday? i see many days where he is not present. i think if he did what aaron does he would be leading dash winner.
aaron is very personable. people tend to really like him. its a PR game. you have to have some talent obviously.
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beckwith might have potential to be best ever in a bike....
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Wrenn is night and day and afternoon and evening and dusk ahead of Merriman. Winning is one thing, being excellent at a craft is another. Aaron is no Ronnie.
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Brett has much better set of hands then A.M.
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Brett has much better set of hands then A.M.
At least beckwith can give the owner/trainer a horse to drive next week.
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with the exception of brett miller( especiailly back when he was fucking crazy) no one better than ronnie. i think brett is the best driver in ohio. maybe he has gotten a lil older and he has a lil more fear now a days but man back in the day he had no fear he could drive the fur off one. when he got on one he hasnt been driving from someone else it was a 3 to 4 second driver change.
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if aaron lost the rhoades account he would end up like grismore. he would still get drives for a while but there wont be 7 win nights. drivers need power.
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if aaron lost the rhoades account he would end up like grismore. he would still get drives for a while but there wont be 7 win nights. drivers need power.
Grismore sucks plain and simple. When you can’t win with Burke horses and lose the account that says something.
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Grismore sucks plain and simple. When you can’t win with Burke horses and lose the account that says something.
Agreed——already proven at Yonkers years ago!!
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Aaron did just fine before Rhoades. He will be fine with out him
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Wrenn is night and day and afternoon and evening and dusk ahead of Merriman. Winning is one thing, being excellent at a craft is another. Aaron is no Ronnie.
Guys drives the Brigades gassed up rockets
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Aaron did just fine before Rhoades. He will be fine with out him
Can't wait to find out who is right or wrong on this. I think Merriman's numbers will be worse.
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with the exception of brett miller( especiailly back when he was fucking crazy) no one better than ronnie. i think brett is the best driver in ohio. maybe he has gotten a lil older and he has a lil more fear now a days but man back in the day he had no fear he could drive the fur off one. when he got on one he hasnt been driving from someone else it was a 3 to 4 second driver change.
Correct. Many years ago, Brett Miller hung around with the fun crowd down at Pompano and had a good time at thd expense of better numbers on his stats sheet.
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Even I could win with Beckwith mounts
If he didn’t win with one of his 1to9 shots something would be wrong but most of his mounts he has trouble pulling up after race
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merriman would yea still be ok. but would he win dash titles? doubtful. he would definitley take a hit in wins and money.
brett was fun to hang out with. when you drive with no fear drivers seem to do better. with that said he had POWER. john lee power. then virgil. he had a lot of horse power but he still drove fearless. maybe because it was snowing all year round in ohio i dont know. i cant confirm nor deny.
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Turnpike I agree with you. People that can't see that never been around horses.
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Even I could win with Beckwith mounts
If he didn’t win with one of his 1to9 shots something would be wrong but most of his mounts he has trouble pulling up after race
Doesn’t Merriman get those 1/5, 1/9 too? FYI, the betting public determines the odds, not the driver. How many of these short price favorites actually miss the board too??
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merriman would yea still be ok. but would he win dash titles? doubtful. he would definitley take a hit in wins and money.
brett was fun to hang out with. when you drive with no fear drivers seem to do better. with that said he had POWER. john lee power. then virgil. he had a lot of horse power but he still drove fearless. maybe because it was snowing all year round in ohio i dont know. i cant confirm nor deny.
Did he not win dash titles before this Rhodes guy? How many of his wins every year are on his horses? If he was winning 700 races a year as a trainer I would think he would be a household name. Not just a Northfield guy
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Turnpike I agree with you. People that can't see that never been around horses.
These horses compete lay overs
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Look aaron would do good without Rhoades yes. He would. He could proba ly puck up the schilacci account. There is some history there. Rhoades won 202 races at northfield in 2023. Let's say Aaron drove 175 of them. So if he liases a 175 wins. Where does that put him? He may still win dash titles with out Billy. Just won't be as easy.
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aaron drives for a number of people at the meadows. the only people he is 100% loyal to is the bercurys. i know they only have a few horses but he will never choose off a bercury horse.
rhoades at northfield
why does ronnie wrenn not drive everyday? i see many days where he is not present. i think if he did what aaron does he would be leading dash winner.
aaron is very personable. people tend to really like him. its a PR game. you have to have some talent obviously.
because Ronnie spends time with his wife and kids. There’s more to life than racing.
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Beckwith tried The Meadowlands this winter. Weren't really a factor drives his father's horses. Hard to believe there are running on oats water.
Who would be better between Merriman and Beckwith if they both had a fair shake there at the Meadowlands or any other major track?
I'll vote Beckwith.
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Beckwith raced at Meadowlands last Saturday didn't do very well. If he didn't drive his father's and other trainers gassed up horses at Saratoga and Plainridge he wouldn't win shit.
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because Ronnie spends time with his wife and kids. There’s more to life than racing.
i can respect that. he seems like wholesome solid guy. good for him.
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Ronnie stopped driving on Tues and Wed nights at Northfield, because the purses are too low on those nights.
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Who would be better between Merriman and Beckwith if they both had a fair shake there at the Meadowlands or any other major track?
I'll vote Beckwith.
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atleast betwith has a chance to be a driver
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I'll take Aaron at Northfield any day. Definitely a different story at bigger tracks though - even Scioto he isn't as aggressive and doesn't have the favorite every race. Good driver but not elite - really good drivers like Palone and Brett Miller have tried the Meadowlands a few times and couldn't stick. Only the cream of the crop.
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cream of the crop? look who ever drives the pwer there will do good. these who you call the cream of the crop drive for people who buy the highest priced horses. they buy the best bred. they race for the most money. of course they will do good depending on the accounts they have. how do you think yannick would do if not for arm and hammer ronnie? if you drive for the dopers who also buy cream of the crop stock you will do well.
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Driving for the best stables helps. But you got to earn those drives. They don’t just put up any monkey standing around in a set of colors
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pretty sure any monkey can do well with burkes.takters,engbloms. dont get parked and pull the right line. sure some get more out of horses than others but others would do just as well as the people driving for these trainers.
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Burke has tried bringing some top level drivers from the Ohio tracks to the big scene. Wrenn and Grismore come to mind. Didn’t do so well and went back to Yannick for the big money
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You got give Bert the nod, AM has had a few shots at some big stakes and didn’t fair well. I think Bert will get he’s shot this summer and let’s see how he fairs. I told my trainer and partner s if Bert comes to Meadows this summer give him a shot on ours
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Aaron will go down as the top winning driver in the history of harness racing. Feel fortunate to have witnessed history in the making.Our sport will soon be gone forever so cherish what we have left.
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Mathematically he has a shot, but I don’t see it happening unless the Red Dragon retires in the next 2 yrs. Last time I talked with him in the paddock he said he would drive til 65
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Like one or the other or like 'em both, it's going to take a lot more than good driving to be a regular and be competitive on the grand circuit. There's a lot of good drivers out there, and a lot of them are good horsemen too. Picking up drives when they come to your home track or two doesn't make you a GC driver.
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Updated stats
Starts Wins UDRS
Merriman 1124 230 .354
Beckwith 967 208 .348
Wrenn Jr 645 178 .416
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A-A-RON IS THE SAME AS BURKE
THE MORE STARTS YOU HAVE THE MORE YOU WIN.
LIKE ARM AND HAMMER RONS MONOPOLY
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Strong #'s there.
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aaron will never bea driver,
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If A-A ron we t east. He would be top 5.
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If A-A ron we t east. He would be top 5.
Buffalo?
Batavia?
Vernon?
Tioga?
Saratoga?
Monticello?
Plainridge??
Cumberland Maine?
Rosecroft?
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yonkers
meadowlands
he would just start boning all the female trainers and then he would get drives. he may be driving takters/jenny bon stock before you know it. public releations my friend.