NYSS is asking for advice to improve the program

[Foalin at 4]

Smart asses need not apply, lets hear some constructive ideas to help the program. Ploppers always have the most innovative ideas.

[Kirby's Ace]

Build a one-mile and/or 7/8th casino track! Get rid of Yonkers, Monticello, Batavia and Saratoga. Nobody wants to race on a half and get buried with an outside post after you paid thousands to be able to race!

[Bernie Madoff]

Build a one-mile and/or 7/8th casino track! Get rid of Yonkers, Monticello, Batavia and Saratoga. Nobody wants to race on a half and get buried with an outside post after you paid thousands to be able to race!

 

[The Exporter]

True but, we do have VD. Ohio has 1/2 mile tracks and has done very well with their program.
 New York's problem is the decline in mares bred. It has been dropping for 20 years. We actually bred more mares before the VLT loot than we do now. Why?
 I have been advocating for years to in crease the VLT split from 10% for NY breds to 20% or 30%. Take that money from the overnights.
 A state breeding program is to promote the use and development of the agricultural aspects of the racing business. How in the world is New York generated VLT dollars advancing NY Breds and Agriculture by sponsoring $40,000 overnights for foreign bred horses? Last week, there was a race at Yonkers with 7 of the 8 bred in Australia, New Zealand or Great Britain.  Only 1 was bred in USA ! This trend has been the only groth market in New York Racing.
 So, if they double or triple the NYSS budget to $30,000,000 and reduce the overnight budget and race days , NYS harness racing would be the place to be. 1/2 mile tracks and all. There would be enough money to revamp the fairgrounds . These places have not seen a coat of paint in 20 years.
Improving the NYSS and Agricultural is what will keep the politicians happy. The days of racing overnights for out of country bred horses is what is necessary now but, it will change if the NYSS program is given a chance.
 You would attract not only the best bred stallions for State Bred programs but, the greatest current stallions and resident mares for Grand Circuit racing as well.
 A strong 2 & 3 year old fair program is key to the plan. Off course the 2&3 year old SS level would be the main attraction. Also, a solid 4 and older limited series would also be possible.
   The people who may suffer at the behest of this program will be the Carpet Baggers. But, there would still be enough to run a respectable and profitable overnight program , as well .

[JL52]

Excellent proposal, Exporter, but who will have the political will to push for it?

[The Exporter]

Going need to do some horse trading. The leaders of the NYSS and breeders like Tom at Bluechip, Crawford as well as the State U at Morrisville will need to push it along. Then maybe there is some political clout to trade.
 This session, The Gov. is slamming farmers with 40 hour work weeks and minimum wages with OT. Thaere may be some room for NYYS to ease the pain.

[Unclejerry]

Very hard to improve anything in New York state, check the number of moving vans leaving that shit hole daily. 

[Brown jug]

agreed
start with at least one mile or 7/8 track
and then other aspects have a chance

[augustaandy]

have them race their legs at the meadowlands

[Harness racer]

Build a one-mile and/or 7/8th casino track! Get rid of Yonkers, Monticello, Batavia and Saratoga. Nobody wants to race on a half and get buried with an outside post after you paid thousands to be able to race!

Would be a lot better product.  They have some tight 1/2 milers in NY.

[Parked]

Buffalo is by far the worst. 3 turns and a corner. Surface like the thruway..

[Foalin at 4]

True but, we do have VD. Ohio has 1/2 mile tracks and has done very well with their program.
 New York's problem is the decline in mares bred. It has been dropping for 20 years. We actually bred more mares before the VLT loot than we do now. Why?
 I have been advocating for years to in crease the VLT split from 10% for NY breds to 20% or 30%. Take that money from the overnights.
 A state breeding program is to promote the use and development of the agricultural aspects of the racing business. How in the world is New York generated VLT dollars advancing NY Breds and Agriculture by sponsoring $40,000 overnights for foreign bred horses? Last week, there was a race at Yonkers with 7 of the 8 bred in Australia, New Zealand or Great Britain.  Only 1 was bred in USA ! This trend has been the only groth market in New York Racing.
 So, if they double or triple the NYSS budget to $30,000,000 and reduce the overnight budget and race days , NYS harness racing would be the place to be. 1/2 mile tracks and all. There would be enough money to revamp the fairgrounds . These places have not seen a coat of paint in 20 years.
Improving the NYSS and Agricultural is what will keep the politicians happy. The days of racing overnights for out of country bred horses is what is necessary now but, it will change if the NYSS program is given a chance.
 You would attract not only the best bred stallions for State Bred programs but, the greatest current stallions and resident mares for Grand Circuit racing as well.
 A strong 2 & 3 year old fair program is key to the plan. Off course the 2&3 year old SS level would be the main attraction. Also, a solid 4 and older limited series would also be possible.
   The people who may suffer at the behest of this program will be the Carpet Baggers. But, there would still be enough to run a respectable and profitable overnight program , as well .

 
   Very well said Exporter, I looked it up, The mission of the Agriculture and NYS Horse Breeding Development Fund and the New York Sire Stakes is to promote agriculture thru the breeding of horses. Looks like the money going to overnight races is not part of their mission. How did this apple fall so far from the tree? I would love to see the year end report of racings income from casino and vlt money, and the report of who got what. If the money was just spent on their mission, what would the NYSS program look like, and would more mares be bred in New York?