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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: London on January 25, 2023, 08:20:24 PM

Title: Marks
Post by: London on January 25, 2023, 08:20:24 PM
Did he fall off the face of the earth..
Title: Re: Marks
Post by: ferdinand the bull on January 25, 2023, 08:40:17 PM
Did he fall off the face of the earth..
No just an alias from another planet
Title: Re: Marks
Post by: MCR on January 26, 2023, 11:24:31 AM
Here is another horsemen who had tons of talent yet couldn't control himself.  Guy could drive a horse and man can he train one.  Also pretty good at lighting one up.  What's he up to now a days?? And I'm sorry stupid question but what exactly did he do again that led to his suspension/barred from harness racing
Title: Re: Marks
Post by: Superfecta on January 26, 2023, 11:28:05 AM
Here is another horsemen who had tons of talent yet couldn't control himself.  Guy could drive a horse and man can he train one.  Also pretty good at lighting one up.  What's he up to now a days?? And I'm sorry stupid question but what exactly did he do again that led to his suspension/barred from harness racing

He cheated BETTER than the other cheats so he got banded. They must have cried the same way they did when they couldn't beat Lou Pena's horses.
Title: Re: Marks
Post by: MCR on January 26, 2023, 11:30:31 AM
The way Pena went down was absolute bull shit. Not a single positive not ONE. got him just off of vet records and rule violations. Bull shit!!! Whatever Pena's secret was he has clearly forgot or can't get anymore.  Man he could light a horse up
Title: Re: Marks
Post by: toothman on January 26, 2023, 01:43:20 PM
Is there a test for EPO?

Title: Re: Marks
Post by: MCR on January 26, 2023, 01:48:56 PM
Yes it's a out of competition test.  The detection is 48 or 72 hours after it's administered
Title: Re: Marks
Post by: Hawkeye Gambler on January 26, 2023, 03:44:28 PM
The way Pena went down was absolute bull shit. Not a single positive not ONE. got him just off of vet records and rule violations. Bull shit!!! Whatever Pena's secret was he has clearly forgot or can't get anymore.  Man he could light a horse up

What’s bullshit about it? Don’t do the crime if you can’t do the time. He cheated and was punished. Simple. No different than Rick Dutrow. If you don’t want a suspension, follow the rules.
Title: Re: Marks
Post by: MCR on January 26, 2023, 03:46:34 PM
What’s bullshit about it? Don’t do the crime if you can’t do the time. He cheated and was punished. Simple. No different than Rick Dutrow. If you don’t want a suspension, follow the rules.
Did they pull vet records on every trainer or just Pena? Yep exactly....
Title: Re: Marks
Post by: Hawkeye Gambler on January 26, 2023, 04:24:58 PM
Does not matter. Do they test every horse. Biggest cheater could be 0 for 30. Are you that big a fool?
Title: Re: Marks
Post by: Harness racer on January 26, 2023, 04:39:57 PM
Did they pull vet records on every trainer or just Pena? Yep exactly....

Win at almost 40% for 2 years and you get the special attention you deserve.
Title: Re: Marks
Post by: MCR on January 26, 2023, 05:06:41 PM
Win at almost 40% for 2 years and you get the special attention you deserve.
Agreed but also from what I remember all medications were within guidelines therefore no positives.   Obviously we know with Pena he had something.  Have you ever thought maybe just maybe one trainer is better than another without chemicals?
Title: Re: Marks
Post by: remington on January 26, 2023, 05:46:25 PM
No there is no trainer better than another without chemicals or better drugs.
Title: Re: Marks
Post by: MCR on January 26, 2023, 05:49:22 PM
No there is no trainer better than another without chemicals or better drugs.
I definitely disagree with you on that
Title: Re: Marks
Post by: PIGLAND on January 26, 2023, 06:44:20 PM
i would like to see a race chemical free
Title: Re: Marks
Post by: EPM on January 26, 2023, 07:48:16 PM
I definitely disagree with you on that
tmbz1
Title: Re: Marks
Post by: mwins on January 27, 2023, 07:00:42 AM
No there is no trainer better than another without chemicals or better drugs.

Dumbest thing I have read all week.
Title: Re: Marks
Post by: Frank the Zipper on January 27, 2023, 08:02:49 AM
Dumbest thing I have read all week.
DITTO!
Title: Re: Marks
Post by: remington on January 27, 2023, 09:38:06 AM
Anyone that has worked with harness horses knows what I said is true. Some trainers couldn't train a dog to bark but good trainers average 10 to15 percent win percentage. You get way above that, and something is wrong. I must have hit a sore spot with some of the people on here.
Title: Re: Marks
Post by: Harness racer on January 27, 2023, 09:57:21 AM
I'm apparently ridiculous to some on here pointing out certain super trainers and their unreal stats.
Title: Re: Marks
Post by: Jctoronto on January 27, 2023, 10:25:35 AM
BILL RHOADS. whats his story?
extreme train pct mead/nf

Other trainer connections??

Title: Re: Marks
Post by: jupiter on January 27, 2023, 11:40:22 AM
Wife a vet
Title: Re: Marks
Post by: Harness racer on January 27, 2023, 02:35:45 PM
Wife a vet

That always helps!  ngc3  ngc3  ngc3
Title: Re: Marks
Post by: MCR on January 27, 2023, 02:58:37 PM
BILL RHOADS. whats his story?
extreme train pct mead/nf

Other trainer connections??
wifes a vet and has tons of money behind him
Title: Re: Marks
Post by: shotgunner on January 27, 2023, 07:50:12 PM
wifes a vet and has tons of money behind him
If word on the street is to be believed also an incoming positive.
Title: Re: Marks
Post by: shotgunner on January 27, 2023, 07:51:38 PM
BILL RHOADS. whats his story?
extreme train pct mead/nf

Other trainer connections??

Clay Fairot until they had a falling out, and then Cory Kreiser until Cory moved on.
Title: Re: Marks
Post by: seen2much on January 28, 2023, 09:50:28 PM
Marks is a cheat, always was a cheat, & always will be a cheat.
Title: Re: Marks
Post by: PIGLAND on January 28, 2023, 10:11:59 PM
Marks is a cheat, always was a cheat, & always will be a cheat.
why you say that?
Title: Re: Marks
Post by: seen2much on January 28, 2023, 10:20:11 PM
why you say that?
All his beards get positives. He's banded for a reason.
Title: Re: Marks
Post by: firhill on January 28, 2023, 11:48:30 PM
Was he still around Scott West when the horse that got claimed off West dropped dead, in it's first start for new barn, during the race at WFR last week?
Title: Re: Marks
Post by: pylon on January 29, 2023, 11:13:05 AM
Was he still around Scott West when the horse that got claimed off West dropped dead, in it's first start for new barn, during the race at WFR last week?

thats a good question..and only West and his employees can answer....and they are not gonna contribute to this form any time soon
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