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Title: Who is allowing these decisions? Where is the Illinois horsemen association?
Post by: Winners Win on June 16, 2020, 05:12:33 PM
Hawthorne race secretary chooses to put all the good 3 year olds in one division of the Cardinal.  Is anyone with the ability questioning it?  Is this even in her authority?  Is the betting dollar more important than what is fair to the owners? 
Title: Re: Who is allowing these decisions? Where is the Illinois horsemen association?
Post by: PIGLAND on June 16, 2020, 05:14:52 PM
its great for thw bettors
Title: Re: Who is allowing these decisions? Where is the Illinois horsemen association?
Post by: Winners Win on June 16, 2020, 05:17:13 PM
its great for thw bettors

I do not disagree.  Is the handle worth damaging owners?  What did the owner of LL Graham do to the race secretary?   
Title: Re: Who is allowing these decisions? Where is the Illinois horsemen association?
Post by: LUCPARK on June 16, 2020, 05:21:11 PM
ROBIN HAS NEVER PLAYED FAIR

SHE HAS HER PETS

SHE HAS NO IDEA WHATS GOING ON

SHE WORKS FOR CHEAP AND
 SHE FCKIN USELESS

BU T SHE KNOWS THIS I TOLD THAT TO HER FACE MANY TIMES

,,SHES NOT A RACE SEC ..SHES A GLORIFED HOUSE KEEPER

JUST FACTS

SHE HANDICAPPED THE FIELDS TO HER LIKING

DISGRACEFULL


DRAWS ARE SUPPOSED TO HANDLED FAIRLY

 IN THIS CASE UNFAIRLY 11.dt 11.dt 11.dt 11.dt 11.dt 11.dt 11.dt angbk angbk angbk 11.dt

AND IN THIS CASE SHE TOOK MONEY AWAY

 FROM OWNERS WHO HAD 3RD 5TH OR 4TH BEST HORSE AND DISALLOWING THEM A WIN

..WHY DIDNT SHE POST THIS ON HER CONDITION SHEETS

ALL TOP HORSES GO IN DIVISION

LIKE I SAID SHE CHEATS ..

ONE OF HER PETS OR IHHA MEMEBER MUST BE IN THE WEAK SECOND DVISION

JUST FACTS
Title: Re: Who is allowing these decisions? Where is the Illinois horsemen association?
Post by: LUCPARK on June 16, 2020, 05:39:09 PM
When someone else complains about the business you shoot your big mouth about the site being nothing but complainers. Now that the size 3 shoe is on your foot, I guess it's OK to bitch.

I DONT RACE IN ILLINOIS

YOUR FCKIN IDIOT

BUT WILL POINT OUT STUPITY WHEN I READ IT

Title: Re: Who is allowing these decisions? Where is the Illinois horsemen association?
Post by: PIGLAND on June 16, 2020, 05:41:22 PM
we dont want heavy favorites
Title: Re: Who is allowing these decisions? Where is the Illinois horsemen association?
Post by: Winners Win on June 16, 2020, 06:06:29 PM
I DONT RACE IN ILLINOIS

YOUR FCKIN IDIOT

BUT WILL POINT OUT STUPITY WHEN I READ IT

He is right this time.  Tracer was a top 5 horse all last year but put in 156 group.  I dont know the board members but that's the one that sticks out in that group.
Title: Re: Who is allowing these decisions? Where is the Illinois horsemen association?
Post by: Winners Win on June 16, 2020, 06:22:59 PM
I'm probably going to put all of my horses up for sale.  If the Carey's read this, fire her now! You have done a lot for the harness people of Illinois but she is a black eye.
Title: Re: Who is allowing these decisions? Where is the Illinois horsemen association?
Post by: LUCPARK on June 16, 2020, 06:37:47 PM
when u cant trust the race sec its time to move from that track
Title: Re: Who is allowing these decisions? Where is the Illinois horsemen association?
Post by: Winners Win on June 16, 2020, 06:45:41 PM
when u cant trust the race sec its time to move from that track

100% correct!
Title: Re: Who is allowing these decisions? Where is the Illinois horsemen association?
Post by: AGUA CALIENTE on June 16, 2020, 06:59:32 PM
Lucpark has all the answers. Prolly should be the next POTUS.
Title: Re: Who is allowing these decisions? Where is the Illinois horsemen association?
Post by: dinkadoo on June 16, 2020, 08:04:54 PM
Lucpark has all the answers. Prolly should be the next POTUS.
would he be any worse than Donald “Tweetie” Trump or Joe “I like soupy Apple Sauce” Biden ?  73cv.2 73cv.2
Title: Re: Who is allowing these decisions? Where is the Illinois horsemen association?
Post by: Wavy Train on June 16, 2020, 11:37:49 PM
She did the same fucking thing with all the other series in the 5000 claiming series she put all the good horses in the same race that herrara has 2 horses in one race and none in the other she is terrible not a fair draw it is so fucking obvious
Title: Re: Who is allowing these decisions? Where is the Illinois horsemen association?
Post by: swoodall on June 16, 2020, 11:41:16 PM
ROBIN HAS NEVER PLAYED FAIR

SHE HAS HER PETS

SHE HAS NO IDEA WHATS GOING ON

SHE WORKS FOR CHEAP AND
 SHE FCKIN USELESS

BU T SHE KNOWS THIS I TOLD THAT TO HER FACE MANY TIMES

,,SHES NOT A RACE SEC ..SHES A GLORIFED HOUSE KEEPER

JUST FACTS

SHE HANDICAPPED THE FIELDS TO HER LIKING

DISGRACEFULL


DRAWS ARE SUPPOSED TO HANDLED FAIRLY

 IN THIS CASE UNFAIRLY 11.dt 11.dt 11.dt 11.dt 11.dt 11.dt 11.dt angbk angbk angbk 11.dt

AND IN THIS CASE SHE TOOK MONEY AWAY

 FROM OWNERS WHO HAD 3RD 5TH OR 4TH BEST HORSE AND DISALLOWING THEM A WIN

..WHY DIDNT SHE POST THIS ON HER CONDITION SHEETS

ALL TOP HORSES GO IN DIVISION

LIKE I SAID SHE CHEATS ..

ONE OF HER PETS OR IHHA MEMEBER MUST BE IN THE WEAK SECOND DVISION

JUST FACTS



Robin put all the horses names that were entered into her hat. 95xz.2

But her hat was so fucking over sized that she lost the names. angbk

So she called Connie for help. ngc3 ngc3

Connie told her to put them wherever she wanted too. tmbz1

Nobody ever checks these things. 11.dt
Title: Re: Who is allowing these decisions? Where is the Illinois horsemen association?
Post by: LUCPARK on June 16, 2020, 11:47:47 PM
She did the same fucking thing with all the other series in the 5000 claiming series she put all the good horses in the same race that herrara has 2 horses in one race and none in the other she is terrible not a fair draw it is so fucking obvious

If there’s two horses by sand trainer
She’s supposed to separate the horses

To both of them a fair shot at winning a leg


Robin is a fckin piece of shit.

She CHEATS FOR IHHA GUYS AND HER  PETS

Title: Re: Who is allowing these decisions? Where is the Illinois horsemen association?
Post by: Dingus on June 17, 2020, 12:02:22 AM
If there’s two horses by sand trainer
She’s supposed to separate the horses

To both of them a fair shot at winning a leg
Robin is a fckin piece of shit.

She CHEATS FOR IHHA GUYS AND HER  PETS

Demand a redraw.
Title: Re: Who is allowing these decisions? Where is the Illinois horsemen association?
Post by: SportsmansP5/8 on June 17, 2020, 12:28:54 AM
I kinda likes watching ren smoke wizze last week because smolin is an idiot!!!!’nn not gonna lie rather watch it this way then see ren and wisse split up and watch 2 races won by 1/9’s !!!! Wake up guys lifes sbout the who you knows not what u know l!!!!!! tmbz1
Title: Re: Who is allowing these decisions? Where is the Illinois horsemen association?
Post by: Winners Win on June 17, 2020, 03:33:46 PM
Robin is a good girl. She's a family gal and a good christian. This site is full of cry babies. Lose with dignity. Oh yeah..Apple Pie and Chevrolet!!!

Clearly you are just stirring the pot.  This is a real integrity issue that needs to be addressed.  I have multiple requests in to speak to Mr. Carey.
Title: Re: Who is allowing these decisions? Where is the Illinois horsemen association?
Post by: Fatboy on June 17, 2020, 04:45:38 PM
Clearly you are just stirring the pot.  This is a real integrity issue that needs to be addressed.  I have multiple requests in to speak to Mr. Carey.

  If this really occuring, I would cry to someone.
Title: Re: Who is allowing these decisions? Where is the Illinois horsemen association?
Post by: Dr. O on June 17, 2020, 04:58:46 PM
They should of had eliminations before final with best 10 racing for 40K instead of splitting into 2 divisions. Should have done it like state fair. What is more interesting is horses with dates are not getting in.
Title: Re: Who is allowing these decisions? Where is the Illinois horsemen association?
Post by: Winners Win on June 17, 2020, 06:04:37 PM
Who is your Horsemen Association President?
Like Lucpark said, probably with a horse in the soft division. 
Title: Re: Who is allowing these decisions? Where is the Illinois horsemen association?
Post by: Wavy Train on June 17, 2020, 09:29:48 PM
Good luck calling the IHHA you will get the 10 hole every time. Call John Eddy and the IRB When the Arlington bullshit is over tomorrow. Look at the last race sunday how they wrote Caseys horse in there with her bullshit conditions. She does what she wants.
Title: Re: Who is allowing these decisions? Where is the Illinois horsemen association?
Post by: caddy on June 17, 2020, 09:57:25 PM
Who is your Horsemen Association President?

this situation is not xclusive to Illinois.  Rumor say there's a meeting Friday at Scioto in Ohio on the very same subject.  Out of staters bumping the Ohioans out and entries not being plugged in by the agreed rules to favor the better scoring horses.
Title: Re: Who is allowing these decisions? Where is the Illinois horsemen association?
Post by: Winners Win on June 18, 2020, 03:37:51 PM
Good to hear.  This is out of control and the pandemic finally has people upset enough to revolt.
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