Duke your on point as always and as for other person response no I'm not new here either I post when I see something or see an angle .and ask or say something I think ok yes it stinks but if not willing to risk don't bet but I did I bet all in the last race of the pick 4and got 1807 my way because I knew the 3or 9 wouldn't win if they did I had it 3times but payoff was poor .so weather or not set up today I don't care because unfortunately at mohawk it happens all the time form reversals or off last or parked just this time I had it rite 3 waited till too late and 9no shot from where he was on the turn