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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: London on October 11, 2023, 11:24:54 AM
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Why is this shit tolerated...treat them like wife beaters and child rapist.
91.jzail
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90% of regular posters on plop either are or support horse killers. Fact 11.wp
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90% of regular posters on plop either are or support horse killers. Fact 11.wp
Bullshit! I don't. I don't even like to see pushing 2 year olds past 3 or 4 starts their first year.
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Bullshit! I don't. I don't even like to see pushing 2 year olds past 3 or 4 starts their first year.
Amen! tmbz1
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Frederick Bourgeault trained horses for fellow French Canadian Luc Ouellette a few years back, are they still connected?
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Please don't suggest a guilt by association type innuendo.
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Why is this shit tolerated...treat them like wife beaters and child rapist.
91.jzail
No! Crucity them, with nails, not rope. In the insurance fraud 70's, etc, a horrifying method was used. Who knows how it was done?
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I know there was simultaneous electrocution and suffocation Ass and head
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I know there was simultaneous electrocution and suffocation Ass and head
Electroction is correct using 12 volt car battery hooked ground to lip. Horses have no impedence to electricity, quite uncivilized. Many high priced horses that turned out to be duds were victims. It didn't end until ins. carriers caught on.
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Wasn't this the method Buddy Jacobson and that whole swindle involving the Brachs candy heiress used out in Chicago? You know that sometimes I am reluctant to mention names on here but I will say this, a nice mid level claimer of mine who was as honest as the day is long and a good gambling horse, met that fate long after I had him at the hands of TONY BUFFALINO after the horse had benn claimed by "everybody" Made me sick to hear that then and I still wince thinking about it.. I had heard they were putting vinyl bags over there heads as well as electrocuting them through their anus. Sick shit
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Wasn't this the method Buddy Jacobson and that whole swindle involving the Brachs candy heiress used out in Chicago? You know that sometimes I am reluctant to mention names on here but I will say this, a nice mid level claimer of mine who was as honest as the day is long and a good gambling horse, met that fate long after I had him at the hands of TONY BUFFALINO after the horse had benn claimed by "everybody" Made me sick to hear that then and I still wince thinking about it.. I had heard they were putting vinyl bags over there heads as well as electrocuting them through their anus. Sick shit
yup , him Sparacino, Barchi , Romano , Skeeter .. most shocking to me was the vet Aylesworth... i never would have imagined that from the guy i knew
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BUMS! I know Sparacino, Barchi and Buffy were tight.. Who is Skeeter? That one escapes me
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BUMS! I know Sparacino, Barchi and Buffy were tight.. Who is Skeeter? That one escapes me
Skeeter Pines was 2nd trainer and very close with Joe Ricco when he had public stable at Monti .. i believe he ended up committing suicide though i'm not 100% sure
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Got it ty
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I vaguely remember an Ed Pines...Not even sure where from....
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BUMS! I know Sparacino, Barchi and Buffy were tight.. Who is Skeeter? That one escapes me
Skeeter Pines was Joe Ricco's trainer. There were others involved besides the names mentioned that for some reason didn't get indicted. They were the biggest scum to walk the earth. Romano deserves to die a slow painful death. He used to prod every horse he had. No surprise he would be involved. Dr. Ellsworth was a slime ball. He would sign off on all these horse's "deaths" for the insurance company. I know Barchi and Sparacino are dead. I hope they are rotting in hell.
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Skeeter Pines was Joe Ricco's trainer. There were others involved besides the names mentioned that for some reason didn't get indicted. They were the biggest scum to walk the earth. Romano deserves to die a slow painful death. He used to prod every horse he had. No surprise he would be involved. Dr. Ellsworth was a slime ball. He would sign off on all these horse's "deaths" for the insurance company. I know Barchi and Sparacino are dead. I hope they are rotting in hell.
I remember as a boy seeing "E. Pines' or "Ed Pines jr" or something in the program Is this him?
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I vaguely remember an Ed Pines...Not even sure where from....
that's his name though everyone called him skeeter..
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that's his name though everyone called him skeeter..
Ed Pines Sr. had nothing to do with the killings. His son Skeeter (Ed Pines Jr.) was a dirtbag that trained for Ricco. Like I posted, trust me, there were many others involved that never got indicted. I would love to name names but I think I better keep my mouth shut. I will give you a hint of who else was involved. The father was a big big big big time gambler at Yonkers. His son trained and drove at Monti and eventually at Yonkers. The kids second trainer who was a real scum bag was also involved. I've said enough.
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I am having a good memory week LOL Pulled Ed Pines Jr out of my foggy past. As for the name and I think I know who you mean, rest assured you can always message me privately in total confidence.
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Please don't suggest a guilt by association type innuendo.
No suggestions
Ouellette isn't a saint has numerous positive tests on himself and his horses doesn't need FB help
The pair aren't well liked in Canada
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No suggestions
Ouellette isn't a saint has numerous positive tests on himself and his horses doesn't need FB help
The pair aren't well liked in Canada
Well, I know he had issues and at one point wasn't allowed to drive a car here in the US. I acknowledge the circumstances under which he "left" the business while on top were always suspicious to me. But I always liked the kid and he always did right be me.
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I am having a good memory week LOL Pulled Ed Pines Jr out of my foggy past. As for the name and I think I know who you mean, rest assured you can always message me privately in total confidence.
The name is part of the linked article. This was the first wave of horse killings that happened in NJ. The second wave happened in upstate NY
https://www.nytimes.com/1984/01/30/nyregion/18-indicted-in-jersey-in-killing-of-race-horses-to-collect-insurance.html
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The name is part of the linked article. This was the first wave of horse killings that happened in NJ. The second wave happened in upstate NY
https://www.nytimes.com/1984/01/30/nyregion/18-indicted-in-jersey-in-killing-of-race-horses-to-collect-insurance.html
thanks i knew who you meant even without this article..
What's the old saying Mike ? Birds of the same feather flock
together?
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Richard Chansky Jr I got it What jumped off the page at me was Mike Sorrentino's old man.. Connected owner of Yonkers Co. I always like the younger Mike, nice guy No idea his dad was caught up in this
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The most hysterical part of the plot is their second trainer who gave them all up for immunity. When you figure out his last name, you will get a chuckle.
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Now I am confused. Are you guys referring to Mike? Hope I am wrong
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I'm all over the map now
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Now I am confused. Are you guys referring to Mike? Hope I am wrong
I wasn't referring to Chansky
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The most hysterical part of the plot is their second trainer who gave them all up for immunity. When you figure out his last name, you will get a chuckle.
so true the named matched his actions .. 😂
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so true the named matched his actions .. 😂
You can't make this shit up.
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I wasn't referring to Chansky
Yeah, I figured that out as soon as I posted it, but I must be dumb, I cant figure out who you guys are talking about my apologies to Richard Chansky
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I read the link like 10 times I recognize the harness names but still cant figure out who you two are talking about I guess i am dumb as some people say
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Bullshit! I don't. I don't even like to see pushing 2 year olds past 3 or 4 starts their first year.
I agree. My 2 yo seaside was having some issues so I told my trainer to kick him out after 5 starts. I scratch my head when I see some of Nick Clegg's 2 yo's going into the fair championships at Northfield Sat. with 24/26 starts already.
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Wasn't this the method Buddy Jacobson and that whole swindle involving the Brachs candy heiress used out in Chicago? You know that sometimes I am reluctant to mention names on here but I will say this, a nice mid level claimer of mine who was as honest as the day is long and a good gambling horse, met that fate long after I had him at the hands of TONY BUFFALINO after the horse had benn claimed by "everybody" Made me sick to hear that then and I still wince thinking about it.. I had heard they were putting vinyl bags over there heads as well as electrocuting them through their anus. Sick shit
Yes that was show horses, Also involved was George Lindemann, The heir to Centel Cellular back in the day. Rich Kid gone rouge.
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Very big name in the past in the hunter/jumper world in North Salem NY You are accurate again
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Very big name in the past in the hunter/jumper world in North Salem NY You are accurate again
Lindemann was and still is a piece of work. Of resent years he was some how involved with stolen art work or artifacts.
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I was actually referring to the old man I knew his daughter Sloan It was the son as you said who got involved with the horse killings
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I was actually referring to the old man I knew his daughter Sloan It was the son as you said who got involved with the horse killings
Yeah Jr. is who I'm speaking of. If the right was easier he still does things the wrong way every time. I think he did about a 3 year stint cut short.
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I was actually referring to the old man I knew his daughter Sloan It was the son as you said who got involved with the horse killings
Sloan got hotter with age.
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Sloan got hotter with age.
I will trust you its been many years
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I will trust you its been many years
They all migrated to Florida.
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Now I am confused. Are you guys referring to Mike? Hope I am wrong
You're not as dumb as you think you are
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Oh what the Hell, so you are saying the young Mike, not the father who obviously never trained and drove, I always knew his trainer to be his cousin john Ross. Always seemed like good guys to me. I don't get the irony of the name reference u guys were making, but ty for the "clarification" I guess tmbz1
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And both judges now??
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Oh what the Hell, so you are saying the young Mike, not the father who obviously never trained and drove, I always knew his trainer to be his cousin john Ross. Always seemed like good guys to me. I don't get the irony of the name reference u guys were making, but ty for the "clarification" I guess tmbz1
I don't know if the kid was involved. His old man was and his second trainer was but it was not John Ross when the shit hit the fan.
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Julian Murray
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I knew Julian, but that was after his cousin John Ross had left.. I saw Mike and John at Goshen this year They were the judges Julian rubbed for Mike, then promoted