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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: Gym Jeffersun on June 16, 2020, 09:57:00 PM
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Seems like some light bills aren't getting paid............. ...........someth ing about Stanek is brewing.......... ........looks like the female hormones are not going in lately........... .....trouble at Nfld recently also............. ..can you fill in the blanks........... ..Sammyboy....... ............
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Go back and start complaining about "The Voice" you ignorant fool
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He's all nonsense
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Knows everybody’s business but hides behind a screen name.
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his info seems to be on point.
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his info seems to be on point.
Not really
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Wind of the North has no WIND in his sails............ .........heard you and Sugg are best of friends now.............. ....care to explain.......... .......SammyBoy.. ................. ...with Randy gone now.............. .lot of your protection gone............. .......
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Horses full of Mucus. Treating now. Expect improvement. 8 hole at Northfield tough on Wind of the North but he gave it his all. Won the week before. Kurt Sugg notified the judges a few minutes before blue Ivy was to race that a somewhat obscure rule made her ineligible and I was scratched. Sugg drove very well for me several times last year and he was right about the rule. When you are right, you can't be wrong? Bercury is still having Fun. If it was easy it wouldn't be any fun.
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Horses full of Mucus. Treating now. Expect improvement. 8 hole at Northfield tough on Wind of the North but he gave it his all. Won the week before. Kurt Sugg notified the judges a few minutes before blue Ivy was to race that a somewhat obscure rule made her ineligible and I was scratched. Sugg drove very well for me several times last year and he was right about the rule. When you are right, you can't be wrong? Bercury is still having Fun. If it was easy it wouldn't be any fun.
What kind of rule makes her ineligible to the Open?
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What kind of rule makes her ineligible to the Open?
Give you one shot at the truth............ .....SammyBoy.... ..............tel ls us what Sugg told you in the paddock.......... ........I was there............ ...
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What kind of rule makes her ineligible to the Open?
In ohio, if a horse scratches after a qualifier it must race within 15 days or requalify. I was entered to race on the 16th day!
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Give you one shot at the truth............ .....SammyBoy.... ..............tel ls us what Sugg told you in the paddock.......... ........I was there............ ...
If you were there you should be able to tell us exactly what he said. Please do that
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SammyBoy......... .........if I were you I would be worrying about that big dollar wreck you bought from Allard........... ........flush the liver and kidneys first............ ...then a lot of rest............. ....
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You never answer an easy question. I am excited about that hunk of flesh I bought from Renee. He is in very good shape considering what he has accomplished and he is fitting into our operation well. He has a little of the Cash Hall attack dog in him so you have to be careful walking by his stall but he is a superb athlete and likes to work.
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SammyBoy..................if I were you I would be worrying about that big dollar wreck you bought from Allard........... ........flush the liver and kidneys first............ ...then a lot of rest............. ....
Did you want to review smalltowns bloodwork?
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WAGEEEEEEEEEEERRR RRRRRRRRR NOWWWWWWWWWWWWWW GYM!!!!!!!
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Meadows will do just fine without the loud mouth, keep him out of Pa he did enough to ruin it already. POS
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Talked with Sugg............. ..he confirmed what I overheard at Northfield the night you were scratched........ ..............tak e your rocket ships and your cheatin ass and get out of Northfield....... ......noticed the bitch qualified at the Meadows Thursday......... ..........
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Don't hold your breath. This jerk slanders and lies but he won't ever answer a question. He calls Blue ivy a bitch, He is a moron. Obviously Roger screwed his wife and he has a screw loose.
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I think the real Jim Jefferson should choke slam the fake one.... jus sayin
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$92,000 not a guess!
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I think so too. I have always liked Cash Hall trotters. He seems to like his work and his problems appear to be minimal. He did tie up on me once after training. He is down in class on Monday and he trained very well this week. He is one of the horses in my stable that showed heavy mucus.
I am not going to out Gym. If I told you that it was his mother that fooled around with Roger and not his wife, would you be surprised?
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Lot to digest here Sammy Boy.............. ..you really like Cash Hall trotters......... ...........you give Allard $92,000 for a 10 year old.............. gets his brains handed to him last start at the Meadows.......... ........as a heavy favorite......... .........he is a beautiful specimen......... ........and now off we go to Northfield in bad field............ ....this horse couldn't beat $25,000 claimers......... ......but you gave $92,000.00.............gets your hands off Roger's pipe will ya............... but then again............ .you 2 were always close............ ..... 11.a
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Amazing how you progressives stretch the truth. My Cash Hall trotter is 7 not 10 and we will soon see if he was a good purchase. Right now, I would bid the same as I did when I bought him. Tuesday I may feel different.
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Hope you are wrong. The horse is sound as can be. Will run blood tomorrow and try . to figure it out. Nothing suspicious in previous testing we have done. Horse has a d ull coat. it is always like a jig saw puzzle figuring them out.
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Bettors take it in the ass again............ .......1-5 up in flames........... .....plus the $92,000.00................I stand corrected........ ...........might be able to beat $5,000 claimers at Monticello....... ...........heard Simon called you.............. ...offered you $8,000 canadian......... .......you might want to take it............... ......
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Did you want to review smalltowns bloodwork?
Do you.............. ......
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Dull coat............. ....tying up............... ..elevated white count............ ......could it be............... ...PEDs.......... .....no way.............. .....Rene and Simon would never do that............. .......especially for $92,000.00 American......... .......
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No elevated white count, 7.6 red count, Moderate tie up!
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Seems like Sammy has a problem with rules............ .....judges almost fined his sorry ass today for talking with Merriman when warming up after the 3rd race............. .........2 tie ups.............. .2 heavy favorites disappearing..... .......wind puffs............ .......Stanek.... ...........using female hormones on a gelding.......... ..........list goes on and on............... .......how is Bob these days............. ......
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Bob Belcher?
Hey Bill why do you come on here and entertain any comments. If you are clean and are on the up and up no need to explain yourself to anybody!
The more you say and try to explain yourself the less i think you clean.
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Bob Belcher?
Hey Bill why do you come on here and entertain any comments. If you are clean and are on the up and up no need to explain yourself to anybody!
The more you say and try to explain yourself the less i think you clean.
Think he's talking about Bob Inman.
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Bobs,one in the same, both scum. agree why would you buy from the french canadian scum.
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whos bob inman
a vet ??
Guy that runs a pool in PA. Formerly a top trainer at the Meadows. Races TBs in WV nowadays.
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BI was actually known as Synthetic Bob.............. .....pool was a smokescreen...... .............look s like the Smalltown has taken a well needed break.........lot s of field time and grass as I told you weeks ago.............. ..not the kind you smoke either Sammy Boy.............. ..........Was a real announcer in Pittsburgh many years ago.............. .....his claim to fame was "You can kiss it goodbye"...............ye s you can Sammy $92,000.00 :-* :-*...............hey you might want to get hooked up with Nick Clegg ;D ................. he will be around here for a while............ ....
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Putting out an APB for SammyBoy......... ..............Hel lo............... ........
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Nick cleggs fat ass lol
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Putting out an APB for SammyBoy......... ..............Hel lo............... ........
Thanks for the birthday wishes Gym. Couldn't have made 77 without your help!
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Blood is really messed up. Red count in the low 7s. I really like this horse a lot but something is certainly wrong. Bercury is still having fun much to the chagrin of Gym. If it was easy and there were no problems, what fun would that be?
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Congrats on your double at the Meadows today.
“harness racing is fun” tmbz1 tmbz1
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Thanks, I needed that!
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Have you tried to reach out to Rene to see if this horse blood issues in the past and what he did to correct. I am sure he would be willing to help you out.
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He has helped. Hasn't worked so far but he had a major tie up after I got him, AST 10910 and Ck 18790. I am wondering if there is a lingering effect from that bad a tie up?
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He has helped. Hasn't worked so far but he had a major tie up after I got him, AST 10910 and Ck 18790. I am wondering if there is a lingering effect from that bad a tie up?
Rhabdomyolysis?
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He has helped. Hasn't worked so far but he had a major tie up after I got him, AST 10910 and Ck 18790. I am wondering if there is a lingering effect from that bad a tie up?
I think there is a lingering effect. The Rene "got caught with the good shit" effect...
Hate to say.... Had a horse crash off EPO two weeks after I Claim off a leading trainer in Ohio.... Anymore, I look at an entire field and think - I wouldn't claim off any of these guys... Small time trainer has barely any shot to improve one.
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Rhabdomyolysis?
yes, and it was a violent case. He qualified before tying up very well winning by 8 lengths and coming home in 28 seconds by himself. i have never heard of tying up destroying a blood count but maybe it did.
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Blue Ivy looked herself today...very nice mare. Both dug in nice. Good luck with that trotter...he will be nice when you get him right.
Blue Ivy caught a break with Betts sending his mare to Tritton. I'm sure Tritton will be sending some horses back as Betts sent a trailer load to him, maybe Ruebe Star?
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Sammy............ .....what did I tell you weeks ago.............. ...field time............. ..lots of grass............ ....flush kidneys.......... ..lots of quiet time............. ....but no............... ..you had to race him again............ ...just to find out what we already knew at Arden............ ......there's BB / BI gas and then there is Allard premium.......... ..........take care of the horse............ ...forget about racing this one for a long, long time............. ....
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Blue Ivy caught a break with Betts sending his mare to Tritton. I'm sure Tritton will be sending some horses back as Betts sent a trailer load to him, maybe Ruebe Star?
hate to lose a n open competitor, Having a hell of a time filling the race. My other mare will have to jump up just to fill the race. Interesting to see Betts hook up with Tritton.
Younger or dad?
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Sammy.................what did I tell you weeks ago.............. ...field time............. ..lots of grass............ ....flush kidneys.......... ..lots of quiet time............. ....but no............... ..you had to race him again............ ...just to find out what we already knew at Arden............ ......there's BB / BI gas and then there is Allard premium.......... ..........take care of the horse............ ...forget about racing this one for a long, long time............. ....
Looked a little better tonight. We will get him back to normal.
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Looked a little better tonight. We will get him back to normal.
Had to be the driver change
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tmbz1
Coming down the stretch I could hear Gym cheering me on! Thanks T.S.
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Have you tried to reach out to Rene to see if this horse blood issues in the past and what he did to correct. I am sure he would be willing to help you out.
Rene reached into his archives and came up with three blood reports on Small town dated 6 months apart. Nothing different in his reports than in mine. I was pleasantly surprised. I have never seen a horse race well with RBC in the low 7s but t this horse seems to be the exception. Trained very well today. I now theorize that that the massive tie up did him in and he is just recovering. A puzzlement!
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or tough shit lol
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dont ferget the RED ACID rene pumped in him
I am not really worried about red acid because I understand it is used for lameness. Smallltownthrowdo wn is a very sound horse. Other than a previous quarter crack that is healing nicely, I can't find anything bothering him.
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then why is he trotting 3 seconds slower than when rene had him
Actually his win on Friday was his fastest win in two years.
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I am not really worried about red acid because I understand it is used for lameness. Smallltownthrowdo wn is a very sound horse. Other than a previous quarter crack that is healing nicely, I can't find anything bothering him.
Find out what Rhodes uses.
Claims Butter Bay Hanover last week from Corey and runs away with the 12th at the Meadows.
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Find out what Rhodes uses.
Claims Butter Bay Hanover last week from Corey and runs away with the 12th at the Meadows.
No defense to Rhoades, anyone with a pulse would do that with a Corey horse.
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so this dude gym Jefferson, who's mom or wife is getting boned by roger huston, hides behind a screen name and comes on here and has something against a guy who can afford to spend 92k on a trooter and wants to get in bercury's business? and bercury comes on here and answers all the questions and criticisms...
hey gym Jefferson? is it your wife or momma or boffum ol boy roger is boppin?
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Butter Bay Hanover was first time in a condition claimer. Add to that Aaron from 2 retards (Shaw and Jason Merriman) and the horse was suppose to improve 10 lengths.
The 5 had missed more than a month, Lanas Desire had the aforementioned Chris Shaw who is just a space taker, and the rest of the field was basically shit.
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Butter Bay Hanover was first time in a condition claimer. Add to that Aaron from 2 retards (Shaw and Jason Merriman) and the horse was suppose to improve 10 lengths.
The 5 had missed more than a month, Lanas Desire had the aforementioned Chris Shaw who is just a space taker, and the rest of the field was basically shit.
That’s a pretty good assessment.
Butter Bay was parked from the 9 hole around the first 2 turns and still made a huge backstretch move like he was on jet fuel though.
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Rhodes crooked, everybody knows it. Did he get called in for big jump in performance, no. They´d just say the horse liked what I fed him better or some other stupid shit. Paul Corey is not a bad trainer, knows more than Rhodes, just not the pre race formula he uses.
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Butter Bay Hanover was first time in a condition claimer. Add to that Aaron from 2 retards (Shaw and Jason Merriman) and the horse was suppose to improve 10 lengths.
The 5 had missed more than a month, Lanas Desire had the aforementioned Chris Shaw who is just a space taker, and the rest of the field was basically shit.
what you forgot to mention that floating from the 9 hole, he was three deep on the first turn, tucked in behind another parked. Arod half pulled down the lane 3 wide but tucked back behind parker - only to pull three wide on the second turn and then parked down the backside a second time he went by the favorite like he was tied up and then opened up by 5.....
you make good points --- so if he gets a smooth trip next week he would have zero excuse for getting beat in 52.0 as much ground he lost, stopped and started and vroom vroom like a car.
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Rhodes crooked, everybody knows it. Did he get called in for big jump in performance, no. They´d just say the horse liked what I fed him better or some other stupid shit. Paul Corey is not a bad trainer, knows more than Rhodes, just not the pre race formula he uses.
Lol not a bad trainer.
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Rhodes crooked, everybody knows it. Did he get called in for big jump in performance, no. They´d just say the horse liked what I fed him better or some other stupid shit. Paul Corey is not a bad trainer, knows more than Rhodes, just not the pre race formula he uses.
Billy doesn't provide.......... .........Leah does............. .....looks like they :-* and made up............... ..........
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Billy has done a hell of a job refurbishing the pool at Northfield and adding other services. He is the energizer bunny when it comes to rehabing the pool and the barn he is stabled in. If you need a favor, Billy is right there to help. We All have our weaknesses but Billy can be a good friend if you need one.
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Billy has done a hell of a job refurbishing the pool at Northfield and adding other services. He is the energizer bunny when it comes to rehabing the pool and the barn he is stabled in. If you need a favor, Billy is right there to help. We All have our weaknesses but Billy can be a good friend if you need one.
Have to give him props for this:
Trainer Bill Rhoades is claiming and racing horses to aid the recovery of drivers Tony Hall, Hunter Myers, Chris Lems and Ryan Stahl who were injured in an accident in May at Northfield Park.
by Bob Roberts
Perhaps it’s because their skills contribute to his often and official welcome to the winner’s circle. Or could it be that the men and women in helmets and stirrup pants that succeed where he struggles deserve a helping hand when they literally fall from sulky grace.
Whatever the reason, Bill Rhoades, currently the second winningest trainer in North America, has seen enough injured harness drivers, and has decided to do something about it following a horrific tangle of horses, the result of an accident in a race at Northfield Park in late May.
Rhoades has since formed the Helping Hooves Driver Relief Fund. His goal is to provide weekly checks for reinsmen sidelined by injury, with the funds coming from a stable of horses purchased for the fund as well as from donations.
The first horse to represent the H H Driver Relief Fund is Galyns Gift. The 7-year-old mare will pace in tonight’s (July 10) fifth race at Northfield Park. She’s the 6-5 morning line wagering favorite.
Four drivers – Tony Hall, Hunter Myers, Chris Lems and Ryan Stahl – were all spilled to the Northfield track surface after Stahl’s mount (JK Parlay) tumbled to the ground and three trailing horses went over him in the 13thrace on May 27.
Stahl and Lems walked off the track, but Hall and Myers suffered serious injuries.
“I was watching the races at home on television and saw the accident,” said Rhoades. “It was a bad one, and right after it, my phone blew up. Everybody was concerned. They wanted to know how serious it was.”
It was very serious. Myers suffered fractured cheek bones and a dislocated jaw. Hall took the worst of it. He broke seven ribs and had two crushed vertebrae.
“Tony is a buddy of mine,” said Rhoades. “When he went down, that sealed the deal for me. What first got me thinking about the fund was an accident earlier this year (on Feb. 15) involving Aaron Merriman driving one of my horses. He hit the ground so hard, it cracked his helmet and he had a concussion.”
Merriman remembers the fall that sent him to the hospital and the sideline.
“I hit my head pretty good,” he said. “I was unconscious for a quite a while. It really shook me up. I ended up with one of my many concussions.”
While he hopes to never get a check from the Drivers Relief Fund, Merriman applauds Rhoades for his initiative.
“It’s a great idea,” he said. “He ran it by me and I loved it. Billy took my accident with his horse personal. He’s come up with a great way to give back to the industry, to show that he really cares. He’s doing a phenomenal job.”
While Hall was unavailable for comment, Merriman says he speaks with him daily and that Hall is doing well.
“He’s back to his wisecracking self,” said Merriman. “I wouldn’t be surprised to see him driving again by late summer.”
Rhoades said Hall will be getting the first HH Driver Relief Fund check this month. He said it will be for $1,500.
“I’m not taking any money for the training of the Relief Fund horses,” said Rhoades. “That saves us about $2,200 a month. All the monies we receive through purse earnings or donations will go to drivers. If we lose a horse via the claim box, we’ll replenish the stable.”
Rhoades, whose drives are few and far between, said he wouldn’t take a dime if he has an accident.
“My record is terrible (nine winners from 176 drives in 14 years),” he said. “Maybe I’m not going fast enough to get in trouble.”
Rhoades made the H H Driver Relief Fund a nonprofit organization by successful applying for a 501c3 exemption. Leah Rhoades, Billy’s wife, is the president of the fund. Owner Craig Stein is the treasurer. Randy Ringer, a horse enthusiast, is the secretary.
Those seeking more information on the program can contact Rhoades Racing at 19brhoades87@gmail.com. Donations can be send to Rhoades Racing in care of the MGM Northfield Park, 10705 Northfield Rd, Northfield, Oh. 44067.
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Rhodes crooked, everybody knows it. Did he get called in for big jump in performance, no. They´d just say the horse liked what I fed him better or some other stupid shit. Paul Corey is not a bad trainer, knows more than Rhodes, just not the pre race formula he uses.
another parked out trip, some of it 3 wide, the whole mile and gets up to win in 152:1
Hay and oats? Ahuh
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Disappointing to me also. The drug has a lipophilic tendency and can hang around a long time according to Dr. Robinson. This is a hangover from the December 5th 2019 treatment.
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Excuses, just take the punishment like a big boy. Trainers responsibility. If it´s in YOUR horse YOU are responsible.
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Come on Sammy tell the truth............ ...........Anothe r hot test on June 29...........for the same issue...........g o back to this thread........... .......... http://www.horseplop.com/index.php?topic=67702.45....................... something starting to smell hear Sammy Boy.............. .....same horse............ ...........same fine............. ........AGAIN.... .............at the same track............ ............from a treatment that is supposed to last 72 hours............ ..but you call it lingering........ ...........Dr Robinson said so.............. ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
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He should probably just take the 15 days so he doesn't test positive again. And people would like him more. No special treatment cause his name is Bill Bercury.
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The problem with that is that the issue won't be resolved in 15 days. This is a carry over from the December 5th tendon sheath injection.
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Come on Sammy tell the truth............ ...........Anothe r hot test on June 29...........for the same issue...........g o back to this thread........... .......... http://www.horseplop.com/index.php?topic=67702.45....................... something starting to smell hear Sammy Boy.............. .....same horse............ ...........same fine............. ........AGAIN.... .............at the same track............ ............from a treatment that is supposed to last 72 hours............ ..but you call it lingering........ ...........Dr Robinson said so.............. ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
I love the way that Billy stepped on your big bet. You guys think that nobody knows what you are doing but we all know that you are stiffing and betting. You guys have done that for many years and everyone knows it. I really enjoyed it when you bet me on top and called me a cheater when I finished 2nd. Stepped on your bet pretty good that time and remain happy about it. You think you are so smart but in fact you are just a smart ass!
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I love the way that Billy stepped on your big bet. You guys think that nobody knows what you are doing but we all know that you are stiffing and betting. You guys have done that for many years and everyone knows it. I really enjoyed it when you bet me on top and called me a cheater when I finished 2nd. Stepped on your bet pretty good that time and remain happy about it. You think you are so smart but in fact you are just a smart ass!
We need names (other than yours, of course, because you’re not afraid to say who you are).
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i just can't understand why Mr. Bercury feels the need to argue with t.s. What's the point? You can type until your fingers fall off and people are going to believe what they want. It just seems like an unnecessary headache to me.
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!What is the % of carry over for approx a little over 6 mo. Are there studies or just conjecture from the vet. It is still trainers responsibility, it is still in the horses system, it is still YOUR responsibility. It is not the states responsibility to make sure your horse is cleared of the original illegal substance. Give the money back! If you haven´t had a re test I sure would.
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Come on Sammy............ ............caugh t few months ago.............. .....opps........ ......you told us a song and a dance............ .....couple more starts at Nfld............. .......no issues........... ...........but up pops another hot test............. ..........for the same substance........ ...........guess it skipped a couple races ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3............. ...and then resurfaced....... ............its okay............. ..just repay the money and the fine............. ...what you going to appeal on............... ..sympathy....... ............