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Title: Underrated drivers of all time——
Post by: rainman2 on April 17, 2024, 02:59:09 PM
My vote is—-
Drumroll please—-
Ron Waples
Won many big races (probably a few at big prices too)!!
Title: Re: Underrated drivers of all time——
Post by: getreal on April 17, 2024, 06:54:02 PM
Ronnie Wrenn Jr to me is better than Merrriman and doesn't get the pub that Aaron does. Todd and Andy
McCarthy are both very good.
Title: Re: Underrated drivers of all time——
Post by: rainman2 on April 17, 2024, 07:00:36 PM
Ronnie Wrenn Jr to me is better than Merrriman and doesn't get the pub that Aaron does. Todd and Andy
McCarthy are both very good.

Todd is way better than Andrew!
Title: Re: Underrated drivers of all time——
Post by: Harness racer on April 17, 2024, 07:51:26 PM
Todd McCarthy
Title: Re: Underrated drivers of all time——
Post by: mwins on April 18, 2024, 11:16:29 AM
Jim Morrill Jr
Title: Re: Underrated drivers of all time——
Post by: JL52 on April 18, 2024, 11:47:37 AM
Jim Morrill Jr
Absolutely Jim Morrill Jr. He brought in quite a few long shots in important Meadowlands races several decades ago. Seems content now to be a big fish in a small pond.
Title: Re: Underrated drivers of all time——
Post by: Mr.Turnpike on April 18, 2024, 11:56:28 AM
   
    Ceba horshy
Title: Re: Underrated drivers of all time——
Post by: Papillon on April 18, 2024, 01:08:11 PM
Steve Warrington
Title: Re: Underrated drivers of all time——
Post by: MR.DALRAE on April 18, 2024, 01:19:20 PM
Ross Croghan
Title: Re: Underrated drivers of all time——
Post by: Bitter Truth on April 18, 2024, 01:26:01 PM
Cat Manzi  ;D
Title: Re: Underrated drivers of all time——
Post by: Papillon on April 18, 2024, 01:32:48 PM
Absolutely Jim Morrill Jr. He brought in quite a few long shots in important Meadowlands races several decades ago. Seems content now to be a big fish in a small pond.

Will always be known as a drunk race fixer

was involved with Brennan and Parker fixing races at freehold in the 90s

was blowing over twice the legal limit in the warmups before race 1 at Lexington  some years later
Title: Re: Underrated drivers of all time——
Post by: SwankToliverA on April 18, 2024, 01:42:48 PM
Will always be known as a drunk race fixer

was involved with Brennan and Parker fixing races at freehold in the 90s

was blowing over twice the legal limit in the warmups before race 1 at Lexington  some years later

I've heard the same. I won't bet wherever he's racing.
Title: Re: Underrated drivers of all time——
Post by: theokodjak26 on April 18, 2024, 03:02:28 PM
JM was a mess when he left the Meadowlands for western NY. On any given day you didn’t know what JM personality would show up. I saw this first hand.
Title: Re: Underrated drivers of all time——
Post by: Mohawk mac on April 19, 2024, 11:49:03 AM
A couple of years before he built his stable of rich owners and fast horses, Joe Anderson was kicking ass in Chicago as a catch driver.  I followed ChiTown racing very closely from the mid 1960s until the greedy track owners and crooked politicians killed it.  I never saw anything like what Little Joe did before or since.   He brought in long shot after long shot for all kinds of trainers.  Horses would just GO for him.  He could make speed with a three legged donkey.  It's no wonder he dominated once he got all those good ones to train himself (Falcon Dakota, Big Tom, The Big Dog, Million Dollar Bye, Ohyouprettything, Popcorn Penny, Pacific Flight N, No Control N, Vance Romance, Jules Jodoin, Next Bonus A, Columbia Nipper, Duncan MacLeod, Droppin'thehammer, etc).
Title: Re: Underrated drivers of all time——
Post by: Grandstand Handicapper on April 19, 2024, 07:33:31 PM
Demons, bad habits, personality, habits, whatever aside ---- Ron Waples, Cat Manzi, Berndt Lindstedt, Jim Morrill Jr., Ross Croghan, Jeff Gregory, Gilles Gendron, Keith Clark, and Benoit Cote.
Title: Re: Underrated drivers of all time——
Post by: Wild bull on April 20, 2024, 06:39:58 AM
A couple of years before he built his stable of rich owners and fast horses, Joe Anderson was kicking ass in Chicago as a catch driver.  I followed ChiTown racing very closely from the mid 1960s until the greedy track owners and crooked politicians killed it.  I never saw anything like what Little Joe did before or since.   He brought in long shot after long shot for all kinds of trainers.  Horses would just GO for him.  He could make speed with a three legged donkey.  It's no wonder he dominated once he got all those good ones to train himself (Falcon Dakota, Big Tom, The Big Dog, Million Dollar Bye, Ohyouprettything, Popcorn Penny, Pacific Flight N, No Control N, Vance Romance, Jules Jodoin, Next Bonus A, Columbia Nipper, Duncan MacLeod, Droppin'thehammer, etc).
I think you need to go back and look at a program joe was ok with others his all he had to do was point in right direction
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