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Title: RACING HORSEMEN ARE PUTTING THE PUBLIC IN DANGER
Post by: Atthetrack7 on March 16, 2020, 05:58:27 AM
 BY ALLOWING HORSEMEN TO COME AND GO FROM RACE TRACKS TO CONDUCT RACING EVENTS, THEY ARE ACTING AS AN AGENT IN SPREADING THE DISEASE.

  THE WHOLE GOAL IS TO KEEP FROM SPREADING THE VIRUS, AND THEY ARE TAKING NO STEPS TO DO SO.

IF THEY INSIST ON RACING... STEPS MUST BE TAKEN... THEY INCLUDE...

HORSEMEN SHOULD BE QUARANTEED AT THE RACETRACK FACILITY THEY RACE AT.     

NO INS AND OUTS, NO COMINGS AND GOINGS, THIS INCLUDES ALL PEOPLE INVOLVED IN THE BROADCASTS, OR THE RACES .LIKE JUDGES, AND CHARTERS, ANNOUNCERS AND VETS  THEY SHOULD HAVE TO RIDE THIS STORM OUT IN PLACE.  YOU PUT THE PUBLIC IN DANGER, EVERYTIME YOU TRAVEL   

SO GREEDY, THAT THEY HAVE TO RACE WHILE A MAJORITY OF THE COUNTRY IS ON LOCKDOWN. IT SHOWS THEY HAVE NO RESPECT FOR THE SAFETY OF THE PUBLIC.

THE WORST OF THIS VIRUS SCENARIO HASNT EVEN BEGUN TO FESTER.. IT IS COMING. DONT BE YOUR NORMAL ARROGANT, ABOVE THE FREY SELVES.  DO WHAT A MAJORITY OF THE REST OF THE PUBLIC DOES.

STAY THE FUCK HOME
Title: Re: RACING HORSEMEN ARE PUTTING THE PUBLIC IN DANGER
Post by: Uncle Harry on March 16, 2020, 06:49:10 AM
 The 2020 racing season should be cancelled.  PERIOD.
Title: Re: RACING HORSEMEN ARE PUTTING THE PUBLIC IN DANGER
Post by: harnesstimes on March 16, 2020, 07:03:21 AM
Horsemen should STAY HOME, and do what they normally do there

BEAT THEIR WIVES
Title: Re: RACING HORSEMEN ARE PUTTING THE PUBLIC IN DANGER
Post by: Pull the Pocket on March 16, 2020, 07:06:03 AM
The CDC is recommending that no gatherings of more than 50 people to retard the spread of the virus.  THAT MEANS HORSE RACING, PEOPLE
Title: Re: RACING HORSEMEN ARE PUTTING THE PUBLIC IN DANGER
Post by: Inside The Pylons on March 16, 2020, 07:10:45 AM
 GRASSO and the rest of his MEDICATION MODIFIERS, should work for the good of the public, and work to find a shot for this virus.

then we may look the other way on your minor charges
Title: Re: RACING HORSEMEN ARE PUTTING THE PUBLIC IN DANGER
Post by: bond on March 16, 2020, 07:24:55 AM
What a load of uneducated Bullshit .
Lets get real here.
1) The Corona Virus-is by far the most dangerous for OLD PEOPLE WITH PRE-EXISTING CONDITIONS.
Children and younger people can catch it and not even know they have it. Most people under the age of 60 have mild to non existent symptoms.
2) John Brennan died -yes-from Corona-BUT he was 69 years old and very unhealthy-obese,high blood pressure,emphysema,diabetes-not exactly a prime candidate to fight off ANYTHING that affects the respiratory system.
3) THE PUBLIC--does not make contact with anyone inside the paddock where the horses are getting ready--ie all the public in the Casino-are  200 yards from the paddock-and last time I checked-the Public watching at home cannot get Corona from watching their TV.
4) After a two week quarantine period racing should continue under guidelines.
Those inside the paddock should be made to stay 6 feet away from each other-and have their temperature taken before entering the paddock. Anyone who is feeling sick obviously should stay away=and no visitors allowed only minimal people required to run racing. Antiseptic hand dispensers should be placed around the paddock-and the place fumigated after each meeting(very easy to do) Security instead of just standing around-should be made to rub down water taps ,door knobs-ie places where people touch. Staff that have to come in close contact with horsemen-should wear a mask.
5) ALL staff at Yonkers have shortly been in isolation for two weeks and no signs of sickness--so they will not infect anyone.They are good to go to work with the above restrictions.

Follow the above--and the Public is at an extremely low risk from any horsemen.
JMO
Title: Re: RACING HORSEMEN ARE PUTTING THE PUBLIC IN DANGER
Post by: Ringo on March 16, 2020, 07:34:25 AM
 I guess horsemen are not a part of the public. What an inconsiderate industry we are a part of. Liars, cheaters stealers and now, soon to be killers.
  Lets hope Gov. Wolfe gets his wish, defunds racing and shuts this industry down.  It is embarrassing to be a part of it
Title: Re: RACING HORSEMEN ARE PUTTING THE PUBLIC IN DANGER
Post by: Racing Troll on March 16, 2020, 07:40:40 AM
 come race your horses, risk catching the virus, TAKE THE VIRUS HOME, AND SHARE IT WITH YOUR FAMILES, HOPE YOUR LIVE IN MOTHER, CATCHES IT AND ENDS HER DAYS ON THIS PLANET

WITH THE BLOOD ON YOUR HANDS
Title: Re: RACING HORSEMEN ARE PUTTING THE PUBLIC IN DANGER
Post by: rollin smolin on March 16, 2020, 07:46:00 AM
 FROM NOW ON TILL THIS VIRUS ENDS, I WILL DRIVE... HOWEVER  I WILL BE STAYING AT LEAST 10 FEET, 6 ISNT ENOUGH, BEHIND THE HORSE AHEAD OF ME.

 IF YOU DONT LIKE THAT

TOUGH SHIT, AND

(https://i.imgur.com/1WcnoDq.png)

GO FUCK YOURSELF

Title: Re: RACING HORSEMEN ARE PUTTING THE PUBLIC IN DANGER
Post by: Unknown Poster on March 16, 2020, 08:12:12 AM
  I HOPE THEY SHOW UP AND RACE.  LET THEM INFECT EACH OTHER, AND KILL THE WHOLE DAMN LOT OF YOU
Title: Re: RACING HORSEMEN ARE PUTTING THE PUBLIC IN DANGER
Post by: slimshady on March 16, 2020, 09:50:26 AM
I work in a building with 100 other people. (my place of employement)     Our business and office have'nt been shut down and I don't expect we will.   
Why should harness tracks  (a place of employment) be expected to act any differently?
Title: Re: RACING HORSEMEN ARE PUTTING THE PUBLIC IN DANGER
Post by: Calhoun on March 16, 2020, 09:52:14 AM
I work in a building with 100 other people. (my place of employement)     Our business and office have'nt been shut down and I don't expect we will.   
Why should harness tracks  (a place of employment) be expected to act any differently?
Because they shouldn't be tied for 1st place with you as the dumbest motherf***er on the planet?

Title: Re: RACING HORSEMEN ARE PUTTING THE PUBLIC IN DANGER
Post by: kimmy on March 16, 2020, 04:02:55 PM
The US should should shut down all office buildings that all you disgusting human beings work in for a couple weeks All you people coughing hacking on each other touching papers and computers you think you are not a risk too losers
Title: Re: RACING HORSEMEN ARE PUTTING THE PUBLIC IN DANGER
Post by: slimshady on March 16, 2020, 04:46:49 PM
If everyone stops working and shuts down the entire economy, who the fuck is going to pay you losers on welfare?  You'll starve to death by a week Friday.

I also helped ship out 100 loads of groceries to stores today.
Would you like me to stay home.
Shit, we've seen how people fight over toilet paper.
Could you imagine if there were no cheerios.    It would be fucking mayhem.
Neighbours would be robbing neighbours.
The gangs would be out of the hood and invading your homes. 
Title: Re: RACING HORSEMEN ARE PUTTING THE PUBLIC IN DANGER
Post by: slimshady on March 16, 2020, 05:07:08 PM
Thanks to all the nurses and doctors and police officers out there manning the front lines. 
Title: Re: RACING HORSEMEN ARE PUTTING THE PUBLIC IN DANGER
Post by: SAW on March 16, 2020, 05:35:00 PM
BY ALLOWING HORSEMEN TO COME AND GO FROM RACE TRACKS TO CONDUCT RACING EVENTS, THEY ARE ACTING AS AN AGENT IN SPREADING THE DISEASE.

  THE WHOLE GOAL IS TO KEEP FROM SPREADING THE VIRUS, AND THEY ARE TAKING NO STEPS TO DO SO.

IF THEY INSIST ON RACING... STEPS MUST BE TAKEN... THEY INCLUDE...

HORSEMEN SHOULD BE QUARANTEED AT THE RACETRACK FACILITY THEY RACE AT.     

NO INS AND OUTS, NO COMINGS AND GOINGS, THIS INCLUDES ALL PEOPLE INVOLVED IN THE BROADCASTS, OR THE RACES .LIKE JUDGES, AND CHARTERS, ANNOUNCERS AND VETS  THEY SHOULD HAVE TO RIDE THIS STORM OUT IN PLACE.  YOU PUT THE PUBLIC IN DANGER, EVERYTIME YOU TRAVEL   

SO GREEDY, THAT THEY HAVE TO RACE WHILE A MAJORITY OF THE COUNTRY IS ON LOCKDOWN. IT SHOWS THEY HAVE NO RESPECT FOR THE SAFETY OF THE PUBLIC.

THE WORST OF THIS VIRUS SCENARIO HASNT EVEN BEGUN TO FESTER.. IT IS COMING. DONT BE YOUR NORMAL ARROGANT, ABOVE THE FREY SELVES.  DO WHAT A MAJORITY OF THE REST OF THE PUBLIC DOES.

STAY THE FUCK HOME

We all know you think you are the leader of the world, but your not. But you can yell and scream and cuss and call people names all you want.

If they are not breaking any laws they should be able to race.

The CDC recommends canceling all events with 50 or more people in 1 room.

The CDC's recommendation does not apply to "day to day operations of organizations such as schools, institutes of higher learning or businesses."


A partial statement from Woodbine......

“We strongly believe that closing our racetracks to the public is the right thing to do for the wellbeing of our employees, customers and horsepeople,” said Jim Lawson, CEO of Woodbine Entertainment. “We also recognize that we all have a role to play in slowing down the spread of this virus to protect the larger community. We will continue to work closely with public health officials and make decisions that are consistent with health and safety being our highest priority.”
The decision to close these facilities follows the recommendation of Ontario’s Chief Medical Officer Dr. David Williams for the suspension of all large events and public gatherings due to Covid-19.
Woodbine Entertainment’s live harness racing at Mohawk Park will continue as scheduled but without spectators and only essential staff, licensed horsepeople and regulators permitted in the facility. As an additional precaution, Woodbine Entertainment is screening all horsepeople entering the paddock, which will also have highly restricted access for licensed personnel only.

Title: Re: RACING HORSEMEN ARE PUTTING THE PUBLIC IN DANGER
Post by: swoodall on March 16, 2020, 06:04:20 PM
What a load of uneducated Bullshit .
Lets get real here.
1) The Corona Virus-is by far the most dangerous for OLD PEOPLE WITH PRE-EXISTING CONDITIONS.
Children and younger people can catch it and not even know they have it. Most people under the age of 60 have mild to non existent symptoms.
2) John Brennan died -yes-from Corona-BUT he was 69 years old and very unhealthy-obese,high blood pressure,emphysema,diabetes-not exactly a prime candidate to fight off ANYTHING that affects the respiratory system.
3) THE PUBLIC--does not make contact with anyone inside the paddock where the horses are getting ready--ie all the public in the Casino-are  200 yards from the paddock-and last time I checked-the Public watching at home cannot get Corona from watching their TV.
4) After a two week quarantine period racing should continue under guidelines.
Those inside the paddock should be made to stay 6 feet away from each other-and have their temperature taken before entering the paddock. Anyone who is feeling sick obviously should stay away=and no visitors allowed only minimal people required to run racing. Antiseptic hand dispensers should be placed around the paddock-and the place fumigated after each meeting(very easy to do) Security instead of just standing around-should be made to rub down water taps ,door knobs-ie places where people touch. Staff that have to come in close contact with horsemen-should wear a mask.
5) ALL staff at Yonkers have shortly been in isolation for two weeks and no signs of sickness--so they will not infect anyone.They are good to go to work with the above restrictions.

Follow the above--and the Public is at an extremely low risk from any horsemen.
JMO


Your #1 is total BULLSHIT!

Fact: Two very healthy healthcare workers, one a doctor and one a nurse contracted Covid-19 at the same hospital.

The nurse showed mild symptoms within 7 days, was hospitalized herself after 2 weeks, near death before a sudden turnaround after 36 days in the ICU. Tested positive 4 days after symptoms ended finally clear 7 days later.

The doctor tested negative 3 times after showing symptoms. 9 days after symptoms began finally tested positive. After 3 weeks of mild symptoms was thought to be clear and ready to return to work. For reasons unknown had a sudden relapse where symptoms rapidly got worse. Died 1 and 1/2 days after this turnaround.

This comparison of two otherwise normally healthy people who contracted Covid-19 at the same time in the same place and their completely different reactions and outcomes was chronicled in the New York Times.

So everybody needs to be very careful about spreading misinformation about Covid-19. The truth is Covid-19 is still in it's infancy and what we know about how each individual will react to contracting Covid-19 is in flux.

The safest response is to assume the worst case scenario until we have more facts to support lower our concerns.
Title: Re: RACING HORSEMEN ARE PUTTING THE PUBLIC IN DANGER
Post by: Fatboy on March 16, 2020, 06:06:05 PM
If everyone stops working and shuts down the entire economy, who the fuck is going to pay you losers on welfare?  You'll starve to death by a week Friday.

I also helped ship out 100 loads of groceries to stores today.
Would you like me to stay home.
Shit, we've seen how people fight over toilet paper.
Could you imagine if there were no cheerios.    It would be fucking mayhem.
Neighbours would be robbing neighbours.
The gangs would be out of the hood and invading your homes.

YOU DRIVE A FORKLITFT?
Title: Re: RACING HORSEMEN ARE PUTTING THE PUBLIC IN DANGER
Post by: Fatboy on March 16, 2020, 06:07:57 PM

Your #1 is total BULLSHIT!

Fact: Two very healthy healthcare workers, one a doctor and one a nurse contracted Covid-19 at the same hospital.

The nurse showed mild symptoms within 7 days, was hospitalized herself after 2 weeks, near death before a sudden turnaround after 36 days in the ICU. Tested positive 4 days after symptoms ended finally clear 7 days later.

The doctor tested negative 3 times after showing symptoms. 9 days after symptoms began finally tested positive. After 3 weeks of mild symptoms was thought to be clear and ready to return to work. For reasons unknown had a sudden relapse where symptoms rapidly got worse. Died 1 and 1/2 days after this turnaround.

This comparison of two otherwise normally healthy people who contracted Covid-19 at the same time in the same place and their completely different reactions and outcomes was chronicled in the New York Times.

So everybody needs to be very careful about spreading misinformation about Covid-19. The truth is Covid-19 is still in it's infancy and what we know about how each individual will react to contracting Covid-19 is in flux.

The safest response is to assume the worst case scenario until we have more facts to support lower our concerns.

IT LOOKS VERY BAD AGREED
Title: Re: RACING HORSEMEN ARE PUTTING THE PUBLIC IN DANGER
Post by: slimshady on March 16, 2020, 06:32:24 PM
"YOU DRIVE A FORKLITFT?"

Maybe.    Maybe a counter balance.
Warehouse workers are about to become the new heroes in this war.
Supply chain dies, so will lots of people. 
Title: Re: RACING HORSEMEN ARE PUTTING THE PUBLIC IN DANGER
Post by: Calhoun on March 16, 2020, 06:43:53 PM
YOU DRIVE A FORKLITFT?
ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: RACING HORSEMEN ARE PUTTING THE PUBLIC IN DANGER
Post by: TheGrimReaper on March 16, 2020, 06:52:09 PM
"YOU DRIVE A FORKLITFT?"

Maybe.    Maybe a counter balance.
Warehouse workers are about to become the new heroes in this war.
Supply chain dies, so will lots of people.

God bless you Slim, it is important you help keep supply chains running during this difficult time.  I now
Understand your feelings on Trump......many like you in the US......just not me.
Title: Re: RACING HORSEMEN ARE PUTTING THE PUBLIC IN DANGER
Post by: dukeman on March 16, 2020, 07:02:58 PM
I WAS AT SARATOGO YESTERDAY AND EVERYONE WAS HEALTHY AND HAVING A GREAT TIME AND THE RACING WAS EXCELLENT. THIS IS ALL BEING BLOWN UP TO HURT PRESIDENT TRUMP POLITICALLY.
Title: Re: RACING HORSEMEN ARE PUTTING THE PUBLIC IN DANGER
Post by: drivingfast on March 16, 2020, 09:28:24 PM
What about 1st responders and health care professionals they go home after work and they have a higher chance of spreading it. Not just people racing  to make a living and pay the Bills. Alot of tracks are taking precautions.
Title: Re: RACING HORSEMEN ARE PUTTING THE PUBLIC IN DANGER
Post by: Atthetrack7 on March 16, 2020, 09:53:25 PM
Comments like those from the idiot above show just how stupid the crowd that makes up the paddock at a harness track.

 The idea is to stop the spread, period.  Every time you gather the risk grows... if one of you catches the virus and kills a family member, it is NO BIG LOSS,
 WE NEED TO KEEP THE SPREAD TO A MINIMUM. SO WE DONT KILL SOMEBODY IMPORTANT,

HARNESS HORSEMEN COME ACROSS AS GREEDY ANTI AMERICAN ASSHOLES, CONCERNED ABOUT ONLY 1 THING
Title: Re: RACING HORSEMEN ARE PUTTING THE PUBLIC IN DANGER
Post by: Foalin at 4 on March 16, 2020, 10:06:04 PM
Comments like those from the idiot above show just how stupid the crowd that makes up the paddock at a harness track.

 The idea is to stop the spread, period.  Every time you gather the risk grows... if one of you catches the virus and kills a family member, it is NO BIG LOSS,
 WE NEED TO KEEP THE SPREAD TO A MINIMUM. SO WE DONT KILL SOMEBODY IMPORTANT,

HARNESS HORSEMEN COME ACROSS AS GREEDY ANTI AMERICAN ASSHOLES, CONCERNED ABOUT ONLY 1 THING
My god you are one dumb bastard.
Title: Re: RACING HORSEMEN ARE PUTTING THE PUBLIC IN DANGER
Post by: HayDaze on March 16, 2020, 10:08:26 PM
Not saying this is not a serious issue, but before you put a gun to your head because the end of the world is near, let keep it in prospective. The chance of you getting the virus, at this time, is 14 in 1 million (this is for the US). Then, if you do get it, the death rate of that percent is about 3%. To date 87 people died, over the last 16 days approximately. I am sure these numbers are going to tick up quite a bit more, but can we calm down! 90 PEOPLE A DAY DIE IN CAR ACCIDENTS IN THE US. More dangerous driving to the track then attending it. Want to save lives, outlaw driving.  Lets keep this in perspective. Yes more will die. Plenty die every year from the common flu also. So you all can stop buying all the damn toilet paper! My horse is pissed I am using his hay to wipe my ass!
Title: Re: RACING HORSEMEN ARE PUTTING THE PUBLIC IN DANGER
Post by: Rabbi Of Racing on March 16, 2020, 10:10:38 PM
Comments like those from the idiot above show just how stupid the crowd that makes up the paddock at a harness track.

 The idea is to stop the spread, period.  Every time you gather the risk grows... if one of you catches the virus and kills a family member, it is NO BIG LOSS,
 WE NEED TO KEEP THE SPREAD TO A MINIMUM. SO WE DONT KILL SOMEBODY IMPORTANT,

HARNESS HORSEMEN COME ACROSS AS GREEDY ANTI AMERICAN ASSHOLES, CONCERNED ABOUT ONLY 1 THING
100% correct. God Bless you
Title: Re: RACING HORSEMEN ARE PUTTING THE PUBLIC IN DANGER
Post by: Fatboy on March 16, 2020, 11:10:29 PM
100% correct. God Bless you

IM STAYING IN MY TAX ROOM FOR 2 WEEKS
Title: Re: RACING HORSEMEN ARE PUTTING THE PUBLIC IN DANGER
Post by: slimshady on March 17, 2020, 11:16:00 AM
If the USA can keep things below  17,000 cornavirus hospitalizations per week nationally, things will stay in control infrastructure wise.   
Keep your eye on that statistic !!
Title: Re: RACING HORSEMEN ARE PUTTING THE PUBLIC IN DANGER
Post by: Stan durbread on March 17, 2020, 12:10:18 PM
How is the paddock any worse than grocery store?  Yesterday there was 9 check outs open at least 10 people in each line in an area around 100’x100’
Title: Re: RACING HORSEMEN ARE PUTTING THE PUBLIC IN DANGER
Post by: slimshady on March 17, 2020, 01:02:14 PM
Stan  ....   Kinda need grocery stores.   
Title: Re: RACING HORSEMEN ARE PUTTING THE PUBLIC IN DANGER
Post by: Stan durbread on March 17, 2020, 02:15:28 PM
I would agree with that Slim but most people also need to work!! No matter what profession they are in. My grooms make $600 a week and average another $300/week for paddocking. A $1200 a month hit is more than most can afford
Title: Re: RACING HORSEMEN ARE PUTTING THE PUBLIC IN DANGER
Post by: Stan durbread on March 17, 2020, 02:19:37 PM
Besides the fact that there year end bonus could be growing fast with a few of the thieves out of business and the rest scrambling for new products and suppliers
Title: Re: RACING HORSEMEN ARE PUTTING THE PUBLIC IN DANGER
Post by: Brown jug on March 17, 2020, 02:38:46 PM
serious times
everyone must do their part and this can be controlled
any industry that can keep people working to help support a very fragile economy is a must
many tracks have been shut down based on a confirmed case and that is the correct action
but in areas where there is no confirmed case take all precautions necessary until further notice and carry on
lets face it  horse racing can put on a card with minimal support  people and the lack of fans does nothing to detract from the product
Title: Re: RACING HORSEMEN ARE PUTTING THE PUBLIC IN DANGER
Post by: PaysonPark on March 17, 2020, 03:19:32 PM
If the USA can keep things below  17,000 cornavirus hospitalizations per week nationally, things will stay in control infrastructure wise.   
Keep your eye on that statistic !!

Are you a Doctor or public health professional?  What data do you base this prognosis on?  If you re going to make a outlandish statement please quote the reference material supporting your comment.  Hospitalizations vary greatly in the amount of care each patient needs.  In our hospital there are no magic numbers.  There is insufficient data currently to make any prognostications.
Title: Re: RACING HORSEMEN ARE PUTTING THE PUBLIC IN DANGER
Post by: Powerful Patricks Ghost on March 17, 2020, 03:27:59 PM
I WAS AT SARATOGO YESTERDAY AND EVERYONE WAS HEALTHY AND HAVING A GREAT TIME AND THE RACING WAS EXCELLENT. THIS IS ALL BEING BLOWN UP TO HURT PRESIDENT TRUMP POLITICALLY.

This...this isn't how it works. Healthy people can be carriers and infect others. So you're basically admitted you're fine with infecting the elderly. Go fuck yourself.
Title: Re: RACING HORSEMEN ARE PUTTING THE PUBLIC IN DANGER
Post by: Fatboy on March 17, 2020, 03:48:59 PM
Excuse my ignorance but isn't the seasonal flu more deadly than this virus?

The numbers suggest you are correct...for now.
Title: Re: RACING HORSEMEN ARE PUTTING THE PUBLIC IN DANGER
Post by: Harness Stats on March 17, 2020, 03:54:58 PM
Overall numbers yes so far.

Problem is that this thing has a much higher percentage of fatalities.  3 or 4 times more so I've heard in a lot of places.
Title: Re: RACING HORSEMEN ARE PUTTING THE PUBLIC IN DANGER
Post by: slimshady on March 17, 2020, 04:44:15 PM
Payson   .....  I was simply basing my number on the number of flu hospitalisations that our health system has been able to survive under for the last 10 years.
I made the assumption that this virus doesn't require anymore respirators or ventilators than any other flu has.  In fact I added on 5% as if it will.   Little buffer.

Just a little math exercise based on historical facts and a couple of assumptions.

No one will be hurt by it.    It doesn't change a damn thing.   
Just like reading a race program and trying to decide who is going to win the 5th.

Title: Re: RACING HORSEMEN ARE PUTTING THE PUBLIC IN DANGER
Post by: slimshady on March 17, 2020, 04:49:31 PM
Stan  ....   I'm with you about racing.   I don't see any reason why horses can't race with no one in the stands.  Keep that 6 foot safe zone between you and the next person in the barn.
Don't touch anyone else's equipment, which no one needs to or does.
Arrive as close to race time as possible.   Leave as soon after as possible.

My comment to your post was really specific to grocery stores. 
I think they will need to be kept open as long as someone is willing to show up for work.


Title: Re: RACING HORSEMEN ARE PUTTING THE PUBLIC IN DANGER
Post by: Harness Stats on March 17, 2020, 05:02:35 PM
Sorry but those last two posts were like an old movie  "Dumb and Dumber"
Title: Re: RACING HORSEMEN ARE PUTTING THE PUBLIC IN DANGER
Post by: slimshady on March 17, 2020, 05:48:06 PM
"Overall numbers yes so far.

Problem is that this thing has a much higher percentage of fatalities.  3 or 4 times more so I've heard in a lot of places."

Harness Stats  ....   Nice to hear from the brilliant one.   So you've heard.   Form who, your cousin who used to live in Wuhan, but still has connections in the medical community there.  You have no more idea what fatality rate this has than any other flu.    For crying out loud, give it a little thought.
This virus has been so mild in many cases, no one has any idea how many people have had it and didn't even notice it.   So of course, those don't show up on any calculation for fatality rate.
I'll leave it at that.   I'm the dumb one, but you are quoting bs like everyone else. 
At least I admit from the beginning, I'm just playing with numbers. 

Title: Re: RACING HORSEMEN ARE PUTTING THE PUBLIC IN DANGER
Post by: slimshady on March 17, 2020, 06:12:53 PM
"6 out of 7 cases may go undetected"  ....    but Harness Stats, the all knowing, is all over the fatality rate statistics.

Study funded by the National Institute of Health
Title: Re: RACING HORSEMEN ARE PUTTING THE PUBLIC IN DANGER
Post by: Powerful Patricks Ghost on March 17, 2020, 06:23:21 PM
Excuse my ignorance but isn't the seasonal flu more deadly than this virus?

No. It's magnitudes more deadly.
Title: Re: RACING HORSEMEN ARE PUTTING THE PUBLIC IN DANGER
Post by: Harness Stats on March 17, 2020, 06:29:54 PM
I don't make up numbers

https://www.businessinsider.com/who-confirms-coronavirus-global-death-rate-rises-fatalities-numbers-2020-3

That article is from two weeks ago and the headline was

The latest coronavirus death rate is 3.4%
Title: Re: RACING HORSEMEN ARE PUTTING THE PUBLIC IN DANGER
Post by: PaysonPark on March 17, 2020, 07:39:52 PM
Coronavirus, though related to the common cold, is a new virus.  So no one has immunity to it.  That’s problem number one.  The virus is now spreading throughout Through respiratory secretions and is 10 times more contagious than the flu or common cold.  Although many people will recover, an estimated 15-20% will develop a pneumonia and require hospitalization.  Some will become so ill from pneumonia they will die.  The estimate is 2-3%, however in Italy the system was so overwhelmed that for those over the age of 70 (probably 70% of those on this site) the death rate is 8% or higher.  The second issue isnon symptomatic  or symptomatic people spreading the disease.  Scientists measure the spread of a disease by a number R0, pronounced “R naught”, for Covid-19 it is three.  So 1 person infects 3, 3 becomes 9, 9 becomes 27, 27 -81 and so on.  By the time you hit the 15th step it’s over 14 million people.  R0 isn’t fixed, control measures can lower it, when it becomes less than one it dies out.  Posting it’s not a problem, compounds the problem.  Laugh if you want, this could be worse if people don’t take it serious.
Title: Re: RACING HORSEMEN ARE PUTTING THE PUBLIC IN DANGER
Post by: Powerful Patricks Ghost on March 17, 2020, 08:29:51 PM
I don't make up numbers

https://www.businessinsider.com/who-confirms-coronavirus-global-death-rate-rises-fatalities-numbers-2020-3

That article is from two weeks ago and the headline was

The latest coronavirus death rate is 3.4%

yes flu fatality rate is 0.1%.  As I said, magnitudes higher for COVID
Title: Re: RACING HORSEMEN ARE PUTTING THE PUBLIC IN DANGER
Post by: slimshady on March 17, 2020, 08:37:00 PM
"yes flu fatality rate is 0.1%.  Corn is 3.4 %  As I said, magnitudes higher for COVID"

Duh   ......   And if 6 out of 7 folks did't even know they had it, that's 3.4 / 700  and the rate is actually .48%  ...   half of the flu.

That's all the education I'm providing without being paid. 

Title: Re: RACING HORSEMEN ARE PUTTING THE PUBLIC IN DANGER
Post by: Calhoun on March 17, 2020, 08:46:03 PM
"yes flu fatality rate is 0.1%.

the rate is actually .48%  ...  half of the flu.

That's all the education I'm providing without being paid.
Half?

.48 is five times .10. 

Not half.

Who you educating?  Retarts?

You fucking dummy. 

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Title: Re: RACING HORSEMEN ARE PUTTING THE PUBLIC IN DANGER
Post by: PaysonPark on March 17, 2020, 08:49:37 PM
It’s higher for old stupid people .... many on here.....maybe they should keep going to the track.  It is worse for old people....most on here.....cancel everything, stay home and wash your hands.  Or not.....your choice....stupidi ty isn’t a curable disease either
Title: Re: RACING HORSEMEN ARE PUTTING THE PUBLIC IN DANGER
Post by: harnessplop on March 17, 2020, 09:12:16 PM
Who is paying the bills on the horses nigga ??
Title: Re: RACING HORSEMEN ARE PUTTING THE PUBLIC IN DANGER
Post by: Atthetrack7 on March 18, 2020, 04:57:59 AM
"Every gaming device must be turned off by midnight." -- Nevada Gov. Steve Sisolak.

All Nevada casinos ordered to be closed for at least 30 days

Yet harness racing refuses to keep the safety of all citizens in its plans, by deeming itself more important than all other industries.. you aint sposed to wish ill upon anyone..BUT, WHEN IT COMES TO THE PEOPLE OF HORSE RACING IT MAY BE TIME TO MAKE AN EXCEPTION

HOPE ALL YOU BASTARDS CONTRACT THE VIRUS AND SPREAD IT TO YOUR MOTHER COME EASTER AND MOTHERS DAY,  HOPE THAT KISS YOU GIVE HER.....

IS THE KISS OF DEATH

YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!
Title: Re: RACING HORSEMEN ARE PUTTING THE PUBLIC IN DANGER
Post by: slimshady on March 18, 2020, 05:09:56 AM
"HOPE ALL YOU BASTARDS CONTRACT THE VIRUS AND SPREAD IT TO YOUR MOTHER COME EASTER AND MOTHERS DAY,  HOPE THAT KISS YOU GIVE HER....."

I hope you drop dead of a heart attack, worrying about what I'm doing!!  Just you though.  No ill will toward your Mom. 
Title: Re: RACING HORSEMEN ARE PUTTING THE PUBLIC IN DANGER
Post by: Calhoun on March 18, 2020, 11:27:48 AM
"HOPE ALL YOU BASTARDS CONTRACT THE VIRUS AND SPREAD IT TO YOUR MOTHER COME EASTER AND MOTHERS DAY,  HOPE THAT KISS YOU GIVE HER....."

I hope you drop dead of a heart attack, worrying about what I'm doing!!  Just you though.  No ill will toward your Mom.
Inasmuch as you were off 1,000.00% on your last proclamation, I believe your hopes will be shattered.

As per usual.

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Title: Re: RACING HORSEMEN ARE PUTTING THE PUBLIC IN DANGER
Post by: Fatboy on March 18, 2020, 11:31:21 AM
Inasmuch as you were off 1,000.00% on your last proclamation, I believe your hopes will be shattered.

As per usual.

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where's tim? self quarantine?
Title: Re: RACING HORSEMEN ARE PUTTING THE PUBLIC IN DANGER
Post by: Calhoun on March 18, 2020, 11:36:25 AM
where's tim? self quarantine?
He coughed while at Tim Horton's and got pummeled.  On the DL.

Title: Re: RACING HORSEMEN ARE PUTTING THE PUBLIC IN DANGER
Post by: Fatboy on March 18, 2020, 11:38:36 AM
He coughed while at Tim Horton's and got pummeled.  On the DL.

 73cv.2
Title: Re: RACING HORSEMEN ARE PUTTING THE PUBLIC IN DANGER
Post by: slimshady on March 18, 2020, 12:17:23 PM
There are currently 5800 cases in the USA.
That isn't hospitalized, that is total cases.
With all the measures taken by the WH and individual States, there is no reason that at this rate, this virus is going to be anything but a moderate flu in the USA.

You heard it here.    Absolutely no expert, but simply putting together the information available. 
People need to relax.   Stay away from work if at all possible.   Be responsible if you have to be at work.

This will have passed by the end of April and all that will be left is the market's recovery back to January 2020 levels. 
Just my opinion.
Title: Re: RACING HORSEMEN ARE PUTTING THE PUBLIC IN DANGER
Post by: Harness Stats on March 18, 2020, 12:31:50 PM
As usual you are making up numbers

United States cases
Updated Mar 18 at 12:24 PM ET
Confirmed
6,539

About your earlier ventilator post.

Trump just gave a news conference .. number one request is that companies make more ventilators

and in UK The Prime minister asked Ford, Honda, and Rolls Royce to make ventilators
yesterday

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-britain-idUSKBN21317A
Title: Re: RACING HORSEMEN ARE PUTTING THE PUBLIC IN DANGER
Post by: Harness Stats on March 18, 2020, 12:48:27 PM
and rising by the minute

United States cases
Updated Mar 18 at 12:44 PM ET
Confirmed
7,553

A  thousand more in twenty minutes

Here is the link where I am getting this

https://www.bing.com/search?q=coronavirus+updates&form=EDNTHT&mkt=en-us&httpsmsn=1&msnews=1&rec_search=1&plvar=0&refig=45dcce4aa96e41f1971f417fa72223d3&PC=LCTS&sp=1&pq=&sc=8-0&qs=PN&sk=PRES1&cvid=45dcce4aa96e41f1971f417fa72223d3&cc=US&setlang=en-US
Title: Re: RACING HORSEMEN ARE PUTTING THE PUBLIC IN DANGER
Post by: slimshady on March 18, 2020, 01:05:59 PM
Harness   ....   I'm posting fake numbers because I used a legit source that was a little bit behind yours.
Well call me a liar.   I've been exposed.   Fuck off.   

"this virus is going to be nothing but a moderate flu in the USA"

There, save this one.     It's the one you can come back and whine to me about in a month or so.
Title: Re: RACING HORSEMEN ARE PUTTING THE PUBLIC IN DANGER
Post by: Harness Stats on March 18, 2020, 01:59:25 PM
OK Dude I'll let it go.  And for the record I hope you are right about it being over dramatized. And a month from now I will NOT be scolding you either way. 

In the future don't post "assuming" in public.  Just opening yourself up to criticism
Title: Re: RACING HORSEMEN ARE PUTTING THE PUBLIC IN DANGER
Post by: slimshady on March 18, 2020, 05:59:10 PM
"In the future don't post "assuming" in public.  Just opening yourself up to criticism."

haha    Ok, now I know I'm simply trying to have a discussion with a retard.

"An assumption is used for the purpose of argument to indicate a premise on which a statement can be based."

It's what everyone has to do to some extent to comment on something that hasn't happened yet.
Like debating who is going to win the 5th race on Saturday night.
"Assuming" Tetrick isn't suspended and is driving, and "assuming" the track isn't sloppy, I'm betting on #4 to win.

I'm done with you.  My brain is starting to hurt.
Title: Re: RACING HORSEMEN ARE PUTTING THE PUBLIC IN DANGER
Post by: Harness Stats on March 18, 2020, 06:28:27 PM
Ok … I get it now.  Does the name Midget Man Hanover ring a bell?
Title: Re: RACING HORSEMEN ARE PUTTING THE PUBLIC IN DANGER
Post by: slimshady on March 19, 2020, 07:17:02 AM
Keep hospitalizations below 17,000 per week and the US infrastructure will be ok.

There are 9500 cases total in the USA as of a couple of hours ago.
If 20% of those require hospitalization, we're at 1900 hospitalized and that is no issue.

If we can maintain this rate of new cases, the USA will be in excellent shape handling the ones that require more intensive care !!!
Title: Re: RACING HORSEMEN ARE PUTTING THE PUBLIC IN DANGER
Post by: chief yogi on March 19, 2020, 11:12:52 AM
not having enough beds in hospitals along with enough supplies are what the problem seems to be. i have watched enough of the daily press conferences both federal and my states. cdc and who seem to agree that all said and done deaths will be a little higher than a bad flu strain. problem with this is more people with this require hospital beds for a few days. america has destroyed our health care system. way too many freeloaders on the qovt. which then pays less than insurance and is all ways behind on payments. hospitals close. so now its panic and close everything to keep this from spreading. my dads 80 years old , health failing i had to cancel his doctor appointment today. if this mess is so bad why wouldnt it be canciled by the office. its not anything but a routeen check. i did so because he is my dad but this mess is i think just a product of our health care systems decline.
Title: Re: RACING HORSEMEN ARE PUTTING THE PUBLIC IN DANGER
Post by: HayDaze on March 19, 2020, 11:15:36 AM
Dont listen to the crap most of the media is spinning. 160 people died so far in the US, of course there will be thousands when said and done. Not to make lite of anyone dying, but I would venture to say 1/2 of those would die if they got any kind of flu, or illness due to extremely weak immune systems. Chances of anyone getting it in the US is 29 in 1,000,000. Then of those 29, 3% of those could die which is .87, so say 1, then that makes 1 person in a million will die.Even if the numbers go up 30 times of what they are now, that’s 30 people will die for every million. I agree to minimize risk, of course, but I think we have gone over the edge. The damage that this is going to do to families already struggling is going to be horrendous.
Title: Re: RACING HORSEMEN ARE PUTTING THE PUBLIC IN DANGER
Post by: HayDaze on March 19, 2020, 11:27:46 AM
Yeah, now lets all go hide in the basement so we dont get it, as the economy crashes
Title: Re: RACING HORSEMEN ARE PUTTING THE PUBLIC IN DANGER
Post by: Dingus on March 19, 2020, 11:29:28 AM
NJ Stats:

Date          No. of cases
3/5/2020        1
3/7/2020        4
3/8/2020        6
3/9/2020       11
3/10/2020       15
3/11/2020       23
3/12/2020       29
3/13/2020       50
3/14/2020       69
3/15/2020       98
3/16/2020     178
3/17/2020     267
3/18/2020     427

Increasing 40-60% each day
Title: Re: RACING HORSEMEN ARE PUTTING THE PUBLIC IN DANGER
Post by: Michael Petrelli on March 19, 2020, 11:31:04 AM
Governor Cuomo just announced now only 25% of the workforce can work outside their homes. Once again, harness racing think it's special. Saratoga still a go today. No regard for themselves or anyone outside the place.
Title: Re: RACING HORSEMEN ARE PUTTING THE PUBLIC IN DANGER
Post by: Rabbi Of Racing on March 19, 2020, 11:47:34 AM
Good move for the tracks to keep racing! That is the old America,rugged people,fuck the sissy Left  tmbz1
Title: Re: RACING HORSEMEN ARE PUTTING THE PUBLIC IN DANGER
Post by: No_Head_Number on March 19, 2020, 12:03:55 PM
Hi All , Every racetrack closed down to help contain the spreading of the virus and these tracks keep racing.. reckless and selfish. Just the truth

Not the truth. You're ignorant  tmbz1
Title: Re: RACING HORSEMEN ARE PUTTING THE PUBLIC IN DANGER
Post by: HayDaze on March 19, 2020, 12:16:49 PM
NJ Stats:

Date          No. of cases
3/5/2020        1
3/7/2020        4
3/8/2020        6
3/9/2020       11
3/10/2020       15
3/11/2020       23
3/12/2020       29
3/13/2020       50
3/14/2020       69
3/15/2020       98
3/16/2020     178
3/17/2020     267
3/18/2020     427

Increasing 40-60% each day


DINGUS, wow that name does fit you.

Those numbers are impressive, So now the odds of you getting it is   .000047 then the death rate is maybe 3%. I guess we are all gonna die. Keep listening to the BS on TV 


Title: Re: RACING HORSEMEN ARE PUTTING THE PUBLIC IN DANGER
Post by: Dingus on March 19, 2020, 12:27:55 PM

DINGUS, wow that name does fit you.

Those numbers are impressive, So now the odds of you getting it is   .000047 then the death rate is maybe 3%. I guess we are all gonna die. Keep listening to the BS on TV

Why don’t you project it out until April 1st, at a 50% increase each day?
I’ll do it for you: almost 125,000

Idiot
Title: Re: RACING HORSEMEN ARE PUTTING THE PUBLIC IN DANGER
Post by: Calhoun on March 19, 2020, 12:36:53 PM
Good move for the tracks to keep racing! That is the old America,rugged people,fuck the sissy Left  tmbz1
God Bless You, my dear Rabbi. 

Title: Re: RACING HORSEMEN ARE PUTTING THE PUBLIC IN DANGER
Post by: Fatboy on March 19, 2020, 12:42:32 PM
God Bless You, my dear Rabbi.

  Making this a political issue vs a global issue is shallow and ignorant.
Title: Re: RACING HORSEMEN ARE PUTTING THE PUBLIC IN DANGER
Post by: slimshady on March 19, 2020, 12:45:07 PM
I think some people on here actually believe that the health care system should have 100,000  extra ventilators in a warehouse somewhere, just in case someone names the seasonal flu something fancy. 
Probably the same folks that think welfare should go up every year by 1% more than the cost of living.  That way by 2030, welfare will pay better than most entry level positions and people will feel more valuable to society when they cash the check !!
Title: Re: RACING HORSEMEN ARE PUTTING THE PUBLIC IN DANGER
Post by: Dingus on March 19, 2020, 01:29:21 PM
NJ Stats:

Date          No. of cases
3/5/2020        1
3/7/2020        4
3/8/2020        6
3/9/2020       11
3/10/2020       15
3/11/2020       23
3/12/2020       29
3/13/2020       50
3/14/2020       69
3/15/2020       98
3/16/2020     178
3/17/2020     267
3/18/2020     427

Increasing 40-60% each day

Now at 742, an increase of 315, or 75% more than yesterday.
I’ll let someone else project that at 75% instead of 50% by 4/1.
Title: Re: RACING HORSEMEN ARE PUTTING THE PUBLIC IN DANGER
Post by: Fatboy on March 19, 2020, 03:14:03 PM
I think some people on here actually believe that the health care system should have 100,000  extra ventilators in a warehouse somewhere, just in case someone names the seasonal flu something fancy. 
Probably the same folks that think welfare should go up every year by 1% more than the cost of living.  That way by 2030, welfare will pay better than most entry level positions and people will feel more valuable to society when they cash the check !!

HORSEMEN NEED VENTILATORS
Title: Re: RACING HORSEMEN ARE PUTTING THE PUBLIC IN DANGER
Post by: slimshady on March 19, 2020, 06:04:44 PM
"There is a massive influx of patients at hospitals in NJ and many facilities are at full capacity.  Hospitals are urging people to only come if they are extremely ill."

Hide the women and children.   NJ is up to 1500 cases of the virus.

And the quote at the top is from 2018.   
I guess no one remembers the "no name" flu.  Either that or the entire State was wiped out and you're all newbies!!


Title: Re: RACING HORSEMEN ARE PUTTING THE PUBLIC IN DANGER
Post by: Dingus on March 19, 2020, 06:52:09 PM
"There is a massive influx of patients at hospitals in NJ and many facilities are at full capacity.  Hospitals are urging people to only come if they are extremely ill."

Hide the women and children.   NJ is up to 1500 cases of the virus.

And the quote at the top is from 2018.   
I guess no one remembers the "no name" flu.  Either that or the entire State was wiped out and you're all newbies!!

The flu has a vaccine, and is much less contagious and a lower rate of dying than this virus, duh.
Title: Re: RACING HORSEMEN ARE PUTTING THE PUBLIC IN DANGER
Post by: SAW on March 19, 2020, 07:17:05 PM
Well after 3-19-20 Woodbine is shutting down racing.
Title: Re: RACING HORSEMEN ARE PUTTING THE PUBLIC IN DANGER
Post by: caddy on March 19, 2020, 07:31:50 PM
Good move for the tracks to keep racing! That is the old America,rugged people,fuck the sissy Left  tmbz1

For crying out loud - Today is the first day of Spring.  As the temperature starts rising, this flu will burn out.  Then - all these climate change dipshits can just shut the hell up. 
Title: Re: RACING HORSEMEN ARE PUTTING THE PUBLIC IN DANGER
Post by: Harness Stats on March 19, 2020, 07:40:41 PM
I certainly hope it burns out fast.

I don't want to start any arguments here but I am going to state a true fact

I live in the Northeast.  We have not had one drop of snow on the ground in my town since mid January.  I'm an old fuck and can remember the last 65 years at least.

This has NEVER happened since I've been alive so I believe there is something to climate change
Title: Re: RACING HORSEMEN ARE PUTTING THE PUBLIC IN DANGER
Post by: Dingus on March 19, 2020, 07:45:49 PM
For crying out loud - Today is the first day of Spring.  As the temperature starts rising, this flu will burn out.  Then - all these climate change dipshits can just shut the hell up.

Then why does Florida have 432 cases?
Title: Re: RACING HORSEMEN ARE PUTTING THE PUBLIC IN DANGER
Post by: HayDaze on March 20, 2020, 11:04:00 AM
Then why does Florida have 432 cases?

probably came from NY in the last week or 2
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