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Title: Hoosier
Post by: swoodall on April 10, 2021, 09:45:39 PM
Who keeps betting Joey Putnam and Kyle Wilfong? angbk

What is wrong with you? 84zac.1

These guys arrive on the track in a Volkswagen Beetle. 9z.lg

And depending on which driver's colony you are watching that Beetle can be pretty full. tmbz1 ngc3
Title: Re: Hoosier
Post by: 3widetooearly on April 10, 2021, 09:56:29 PM
Wilfong is brutal!
Title: Re: Hoosier
Post by: swoodall on April 10, 2021, 10:13:59 PM
Never fails. 11.wp

As soon as you post one of the clowns win. ngc3

Putnam holds on with the Eckley juiced up crotch rocket. 77z.chf 91.jzail

I almost said in the first post that Eckley must be pretty confident in his cheating skills to allow these two money burners to drive. 11.wp

Well scratch that last part....not drive but be a passenger on his crotch rockets. 87xc.2 11.wp

Hoosier can't have those cameras turned on because Eckley is making a fool out of them again. 68xv.2
Title: Re: Hoosier
Post by: swoodall on April 10, 2021, 11:24:37 PM
Putnam gets the last Eckley crotch rocket home. tmbz1

When you are playing the cheaters as they are hot you don't want stupid drives from stupid NASCAR wannabes.

This time Putnam waited and used the additional stamina/blood builders to outlast his competition. tmbz1

Nobody gets paid at the 1/2 mile pole. angbk

And you don't get bonus purse money for a fast mile. angbk

Eckley is 5 for 13 so far at Hoosier with one second and 3rd to boot. 11.wp
Title: Re: Hoosier
Post by: davenchop on April 10, 2021, 11:56:07 PM
seems to me putnam knows whats he doing.. you are just and idiot
Title: Re: Hoosier
Post by: LUCPARK on April 11, 2021, 06:13:01 AM
CANT WE LOSE A RACE WITH DIGNITY  ;D
Title: Re: Hoosier
Post by: Wawajones on April 11, 2021, 08:58:24 AM
Teatrick wins 7?  Ugh.
Title: Re: Hoosier
Post by: silent one on April 11, 2021, 11:17:28 AM
Putnam gets the last Eckley crotch rocket home. tmbz1

When you are playing the cheaters as they are hot you don't want stupid drives from stupid NASCAR wannabes.

This time Putnam waited and used the additional stamina/blood builders to outlast his competition. tmbz1

Nobody gets paid at the 1/2 mile pole. angbk

And you don't get bonus purse money for a fast mile. angbk

Eckley is 5 for 13 so far at Hoosier with one second and 3rd to boot. 11.wp

 38.4 win percentage. I believe that is better than Pena's when he was at the Pig M. Eckley must just be smarter and works harder than his peers at Hoser Park.

      Sincerely, Silent One
Title: Re: Hoosier
Post by: swoodall on April 11, 2021, 02:24:02 PM
seems to me putnam knows whats he doing.. you are just and idiot



Keep thinking that. tmbz1

Your dead money is why I play. tmbz1
Title: Re: Hoosier
Post by: swoodall on April 11, 2021, 02:34:42 PM
38.4 win percentage. I believe that is better than Pena's when he was at the Pig M. Eckley must just be smarter and works harder than his peers at Hoser Park.

      Sincerely, Silent One


Thank you.  tmbz1

My intent was to focus on Eckley in this thread. 11.wp

But I got side tracked with his poor selections for drivers. angbk

Eckley's juice can't always overcome a bad drive and I derailed into focusing on that.

Clearly using top drivers to ensure your juiced up rats win will hurt your odds.

But I thought these chemists were about purse money not gambling into smaller pools.

If Eckley used Trace every time he would be batting .800 right now. hcx.1 
Title: Re: Hoosier
Post by: swoodall on April 11, 2021, 02:55:52 PM
CANT WE LOSE A RACE WITH DIGNITY  ;D


Luc...

I didn't lose! tmbz1

My Eckley bets were way up for the night. tmbz1

Yes I did lose some on individual races where I bet lightly because of who drove.

Trace, Delong and Widger had solid competition in those races.

Eckley has trouble competing with a Cullipher or George crotch rocket when driving skills matter.

But put one of those guys on Eckley's horse and you get a different result.

Last week Eckley was 3 for 5. tmbz1

Same situations, same results. 11.wp

Tyler George dominates for 2 reasons. 68xv.2

First and foremost his juice. hcx.1

Second and still a very important ingredient.....he uses Trace. tmbz1

Eckley can be on the same level if he upgrades his driver choices. 11.wp
Title: Re: Hoosier
Post by: cigar on April 11, 2021, 03:32:31 PM
Eckley is not even racing at Hoosier, where do you see him listed there?
Title: Re: Hoosier
Post by: swoodall on April 11, 2021, 03:46:54 PM
Here are some stats you might want to consider when handicapping Hoosier. tmbz1

So far there are some surprises.

Why?

Could be the cameras or a heightened level of cheater awareness or even an anomaly. 11.wp

Group 1:
Tyler George  is   2 for 13

Ron Burke    is    1 for 9

Trent Stohler  is  2 for 13

Peter Wrenn  is   1 for 13

Ken Rucker  is    2 for 23

J Macomber is    2 for 14

The difference in this group above is we are used to seeing them win a lot more often.

Group 2:
J Cullipher  is    12 for 55

W. Haynes  is     5 for 21

D. Eash      is     4 for 37

P. Redder   is     7 for 32

J. Putnam  is     3 for 24

Volume starts with Cullipher and Redder pretty consistent each week.
Haynes after an 0 for 10 start heated up this week.

Group 3:
Illinois guys waiting for Hawthorne to open

R. Roberts  is     0 for 11

H. Herrera  is     1 for 21

N. Willis     is     0 for 10

l. Quevedo is     2 for 20

Group 4: Hot Barns
Eckley/Dillon  is   5 for 14

M. Essig        is   6 for 10

j. Smith        is   5 for 8

E. Miller        is   2 for 4

T. Lane         is   2 for 4

Tried to limit stats to known cheaters or larger barns with an expected higher volume of starters.
Smaller barns are a waste of time to look for trends.
Granted you can get these stats elsewhere but you have to anticipate the cycles changing order to profit.
For example Burke entries hot in Ohio but dead at the Meadowlands during a given week.
Also Burke is rarely hot at the Meadowlands and Yonkers at the same time. 11.wp
Title: Re: Hoosier
Post by: swoodall on April 11, 2021, 03:48:32 PM
Eckley is not even racing at Hoosier, where do you see him listed there?



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Good one. tmbz1
Title: Re: Hoosier
Post by: Rabbi Of Racing on April 11, 2021, 04:14:11 PM
God bless you , you need help
Title: Re: Hoosier
Post by: seen2much on April 11, 2021, 04:58:52 PM
Are Cullipher, Burke, George, Rucker, & Macomber all stabled on track?
Title: Re: Hoosier
Post by: shotgunner on April 11, 2021, 08:02:17 PM
Burke is batting .400 plus and is cold. What an idiot.
Title: Re: Hoosier
Post by: swoodall on April 11, 2021, 09:14:19 PM
Burke is batting .400 plus and is cold. What an idiot.


That would be .370 on the performance of one Open horse who has his win.

And that win was a fading victory with Macdumber who barely held on.

I have said here a long time ago that when Burke or his equivalents run cold at a particular track they usually are hot in another state. Happens all the time. Hot in Ohio cold in New Jersey.

Hot streaks tend to follow where he visits. 11.wp

The numbers back this up. tmbz1

Plus when the barn is cold the horse that usually hits the board is the one racing at the highest level that night.

Just like his Open horse did at Hoosier.

If you bet or keyed the others you LOST! angbk

You can choose to stay ignorant but thats your choice. angbk
Title: Re: Hoosier
Post by: swoodall on April 11, 2021, 09:15:23 PM
Are Cullipher, Burke, George, Rucker, & Macomber all stabled on track?



Luc might be able to answer this?

Title: Re: Hoosier
Post by: swoodall on April 11, 2021, 09:16:37 PM
God bless you , you need help



Haven't you got an insurrection to attend? 95xz.2
Title: Re: Hoosier
Post by: cigar on April 11, 2021, 09:27:40 PM
This Swoodall is just a wealth of information  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: Hoosier
Post by: Rabbi Of Racing on April 11, 2021, 09:55:41 PM
Swoodall needs a new hobby  ngc3
Title: Re: Hoosier
Post by: cigar on April 11, 2021, 10:14:41 PM
Swoodall needs a new hobby  ngc3
He should look into who shot jr on Dallas or jfk
Title: Re: Hoosier
Post by: Superfecta on April 11, 2021, 10:26:24 PM



I have said here a long time ago that when Burke or his equivalents run cold at a particular track they usually are hot in another state. Happens all the time. Hot in Ohio cold in New Jersey.

Hot streaks tend to follow where he visits. 11.w






Do you have a pattern to his travel plans or any indication when he arrives in any particular city ?
Title: Re: Hoosier
Post by: cigar on April 11, 2021, 10:48:19 PM
Can you see Swoodall with a trench coat and dark glasses following burke at airports?  ngc3
Inspector Clouseau Checking in I would like the aisle seat so I can put my cane down  ngc3
Title: Re: Hoosier
Post by: LUCPARK on April 12, 2021, 07:01:17 AM


Luc might be able to answer this?

Tyler is not

But everyone is a little nervous stabled at Hoosierpark

another rule I really like Hoosierpark implemented

No taking horses off the track to rest at private farm night before they race

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One of my partners told me trainer said they sleep better at private farm night before  ngc3 ngc3 ngc racing

Or they get lit up at farm mornin of race ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: Hoosier
Post by: carl baldwin on April 12, 2021, 12:58:35 PM
Tyler is not

But everyone is a little nervous stabled at Hoosierpark

another rule I really like Hoosierpark implemented

No taking horses off the track to rest at private farm night before they race

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One of my partners told me trainer said they sleep better at private farm night before  ngc3 ngc3 ngc racing

Or they get lit up at farm mornin of race ngc3 ngc3
Just ship in the day of the race,stable off track.
Title: Re: Hoosier
Post by: swoodall on April 13, 2021, 01:04:30 AM
Do you have a pattern to his travel plans or any indication when he arrives in any particular city ?


No but....keep an eye o the early results during the week where he is racing.

Dead at Meadows usually equals dead at Pocono.

Hot mid-week at Yonkers usually equals hot at Yonkers on Friday and Monday but cold at the Meadowlands.

The weekend he won like 11 0f 13 races at the Meadowlands he couldn't get a sniff at Yonkers.
Title: Re: Hoosier
Post by: swoodall on April 13, 2021, 01:05:49 AM
Can you see Swoodall with a trench coat and dark glasses following burke at airports?  ngc3
Inspector Clouseau Checking in I would like the aisle seat so I can put my cane down  ngc3


Remember Gene.....when one see the vet, they all see the vet.

Follow the vet. tmbz1
Title: Re: Hoosier
Post by: Zookeeper on April 13, 2021, 01:38:20 PM
Interesting facts. ISA President Big Joe Putnam rents stalls off track to the Redder boys, also to Brittany Dillion (Eckley) who is constantly shipping horses off track to said farm.  Wilfong is Eckleys main pilot at Hawthorne & in Kentucky. Little Joey Putnam is getting the other mounts presumably by the association of Dillion/Eckley/Big Joe business arrangement.
Title: Re: Hoosier
Post by: Zookeeper on April 13, 2021, 03:48:55 PM
Let’s not forget that Dr. Skeletor has been re licensed in the state of Indiana, look for the usual suspects to start heating up again.
Title: Re: Hoosier
Post by: Parts Unknown on April 13, 2021, 05:27:11 PM
You guys are very entertaining.... ngc3 ngc3 ngc3...Got to love the horseplop... tmbz1...You make my day....good fun stuff... ngc3
Title: Re: Hoosier
Post by: swoodall on April 13, 2021, 08:46:46 PM
Interesting facts. ISA President Big Joe Putnam rents stalls off track to the Redder boys, also to Brittany Dillion (Eckley) who is constantly shipping horses off track to said farm.  Wilfong is Eckleys main pilot at Hawthorne & in Kentucky. Little Joey Putnam is getting the other mounts presumably by the association of Dillion/Eckley/Big Joe business arrangement.


For newbies just reading not posting this is the best of plop. tmbz1

Information you won't get anywhere else and an interesting association that in my book explains a lot. tmbz1

Thanks Zookeeper. tmbz1
Title: Re: Hoosier
Post by: swoodall on April 13, 2021, 08:59:42 PM
By now we all know Hoosier installed cameras to cover most areas of the paddock and backstretch. tmbz1

To honest horsemen this means little or nothing at all to them. tmbz1

Why should it if you have nothing to hide?

So why are some known juicer's udrs in decline? 11.wp

And why is Bowermaster M.I.A.? ngc3

Did he lose his big owner over getting caught milkshaking?  11.dt

Or is he not interested in displaying his new training secrets in front of security cameras? 77z.chf 91.jzail

Enquiring minds want to know. ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: Hoosier
Post by: davenchop on April 13, 2021, 10:03:57 PM
harness racing has no newbies... just a bunch of old and getting older by
the day bustouts
Title: Re: Hoosier
Post by: cigar on April 13, 2021, 10:15:47 PM
Conspiracy #121 Swoodall files
Title: Re: Hoosier
Post by: cigar on April 13, 2021, 10:16:37 PM
Conspiracy #122 Swoodall files
Just tell us who shot JFK
Title: Re: Hoosier
Post by: swoodall on April 13, 2021, 10:42:06 PM
Conspiracy #122 Swoodall files
Just tell us who shot JFK


Plop Stewards have Disqualified you from commenting on other cheaters. angbk

Convicted criminals are not allowed to sit on someone else's jury. 94z.sm

Only honest horsemen can comment here. 43z.stf
Title: Re: Hoosier
Post by: swoodall on April 13, 2021, 10:43:53 PM
Conspiracy #121 Swoodall files


Speaking of old bustouts....what's up Cigar? ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: Hoosier
Post by: cigar on April 13, 2021, 11:20:12 PM
Swoodall now you know I’m not a cheater, I can barely win a race.
Title: Re: Hoosier
Post by: cigar on April 13, 2021, 11:21:53 PM
I can’t be old because I’m not. But yes if you consider someone that collects disability and doesn’t do shit like yourself a bustout. Well I guess there is many out there than.
Title: Re: Hoosier
Post by: Parts Unknown on April 13, 2021, 11:32:25 PM
That was funny Swoodall.....ha ha ha... ngc3 ngc3 ngc3...Sorry Cigar tmbz1 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: Hoosier
Post by: davenchop on April 14, 2021, 12:19:54 PM
interesting observations mr swoodall... dillon using something for sure

good info... dont laugh its pretty accurate
Title: Re: Hoosier
Post by: shotgunner on April 14, 2021, 07:12:48 PM

No but....keep an eye o the early results during the week where he is racing.

Dead at Meadows usually equals dead at Pocono.

Hot mid-week at Yonkers usually equals hot at Yonkers on Friday and Monday but cold at the Meadowlands.

The weekend he won like 11 0f 13 races at the Meadowlands he couldn't get a sniff at Yonkers.
The east coast barn is Poconos, Chester, Yonkers, M1.
The Meadows barn is Meadows and Northfield.
The Ohio barn is the other Ohio tracks and the Hoosier barn is Hoosier.
So please explain how horses racing out the same barn at different tracks are hot and cold at the same time when your whole theory is that when Burke is at the barn they get hot.
Title: Re: Hoosier
Post by: swoodall on April 15, 2021, 01:00:36 AM
The east coast barn is Poconos, Chester, Yonkers, M1.
The Meadows barn is Meadows and Northfield.
The Ohio barn is the other Ohio tracks and the Hoosier barn is Hoosier.
So please explain how horses racing out the same barn at different tracks are hot and cold at the same time when your whole theory is that when Burke is at the barn they get hot.


You need this explained to you? angbk

Burke's hot and cold patterns have been obvious for years.

Find out if the Guru will be visiting your track personally this week. hcx.1

Good efforts have an uncanny way of tagging along. tmbz1

Title: Re: Hoosier
Post by: swoodall on April 15, 2021, 01:07:09 AM
Swoodall now you know I’m not a cheater, I can barely win a race.



Undesirables hang out on 4chan, 8chan and the backstretches of racetracks everywhere. 94z.sm

Kudos to the brave horsemen representatives trying to protect us from this scourge. tmbz1
Title: Re: Hoosier
Post by: Mr Wing Wong on April 15, 2021, 02:00:18 AM
Putnam gets the last Eckley crotch rocket home. tmbz1

When you are playing the cheaters as they are hot you don't want stupid drives from stupid NASCAR wannabes.

This time Putnam waited and used the additional stamina/blood builders to outlast his competition. tmbz1

Nobody gets paid at the 1/2 mile pole. angbk

And you don't get bonus purse money for a fast mile. angbk

Eckley is 5 for 13 so far at Hoosier with one second and 3rd to boot. 11.wp
Ex
Eckley is at the Frankfort Indiana fairgrounds.
Title: Re: Hoosier
Post by: AGUA CALIENTE on April 15, 2021, 04:23:12 PM
Rock N Tony back in town ????
Title: Re: Hoosier
Post by: LUCPARK on April 15, 2021, 05:58:26 PM
Rock N Tony back in town ????

Yep


She wanted him back 

so is

Squirrel.
Title: Re: Hoosier
Post by: AGUA CALIENTE on April 15, 2021, 07:20:46 PM
You got both of their keys. Make a Bunch of $$$$$
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