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Harness Racing / Three months...not a word...
« Last post by Way to go on Today at 12:29:02 PM »
ABD FUBINACA......... .did Delaware fall off the map ????????????
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May be grateful.....down the road..... that he has a college degree to fall back on to help support his many children
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Nice guy who was on the verge of being a grand circuit star circa 2008, 2009, etc. Now is lucky that Delaware keeps the slot welfare rolling or he would be out of the business.

Watch to see how often he shows up at Ocean Downs this summer for Md. sire stakes drives as his business goes completely dry at the Meadowlands and he is an after thought on bigger days at Chester. Yesterdays news for many years now and the stock he was rolling with at M1 back in the day was juiced beyond the gills. Has very little talent beyond that.
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Harness Racing / Mohawk Monday
« Last post by whiptherabbit on Today at 11:23:40 AM »
Race#5-#8 REACTOR NOW A 3-1 ML Stunk it up last start, drops down to where he last got his picture taken. Not an abundance of gate speed in here & he should have decent odds tonight.

Race#7-#9 SOMETIME SOMEWHERE 3-1 ML Same profile as above horse , awful last start, drops way down & even from the same barn. Should attempt to leave for position if nothing else tonight, be above ML for sure.

Race#10-#4 COALITION HANOVER 4-1 ML Absolute crush job last week in a cheaper claimer, way up in class tonight but peak current form. Sweet Deisel returns to Lester’s barn tonight & he will be bet off the board. I’ll go with the streaking Coalition Hanover in here.

Need Moreau to have a good night tonight!

Best of Luck!  tmbz1
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Harness Racing / Re: Computer Assisted Wagering - Elite Turf Club
« Last post by Papillon on Today at 10:55:06 AM »
Some tracks, and you will see more, are starting to cut them off with X minutes to post. So.....CAW is not illegal.....but it certainly isn't equal to the other players. Plenty of major players have met with track management and started saying they will take their business elsewhere. One major player at the Meadowlands did. Another major player at another track told track management he was leaving, he did, and the track cut off the CAW's with 3 minutes to post just to get that player back.

I think every track should have a 3 minute to post cut off for all CAW's. There's an indirect benefit here by the way.....That way the conspiracy theorists can feel they have more credibility when they scream about open windows. LOL. I can only speak to what I know first-hand at the Meadowlands. After making my bones in NY racing, I was at the Meadowlands the first night they opened. And I am still there. I don't bet for fun, sport, hobby or anything else. It is one way I make my living in this industry. So, in 2013, the Meadowlands made a deal with a CAW team ---- some very well known players who hooked up with a few techie guys were looking to diversify their original action. Maybe they were thinking the CAW would become their primary action. I know two of the guys and they both thought different things. Anyway, while I don't know it for a fact, I believe the initial contract called for the team to commit to $250k per card. What I do know for a fact is that the Meadowlands negotiated this deal and did their due diligence over the course of months. This discussion dragged on and it was because the Meadowlands was very slow to say yes. They spoke to the SBOANJ, horsemen, and yes, they spoke to some of their major players.

In the end, they said yes. At the beginning, when they counted up the money----the Meadowlands claimed 50% of the "increase in handle" came from the team. However, I know if that number was legit, I know for a fact that number shrank big time over time. That means the CAW is betting the same amount of money, but there was more money coming in from other sources. That still doesn't make it right or healthy, because the massive last minute odds changes weren't happening initially.

The question really is ---- would the CAW teams bet, and win, without concessions from the track(s)? Bet? Yes, but not for long. Win? No, that's why they wouldn't bet for long, LOL. People don't understand the CAW model, but let's just say they are not looking to make monster scores. They are looking to come out in the black WHEN you factor in the rebate. The margins are small. Frank Fabian probably knows more about CAW than anyone and he's spoken a lot on it. Almost every major player in the game knows him due to his role with the TRPB. He was already on this when the Uvari bust went down, and that was in what, 04 or 05? I met Frank in the late 90's and he was very much ahead of his time, but also whatever was going on at the time. In the harness game, the massive last minute odds changes were not common until recently and they were far more common in thoroughbreds than harness. Yes it has happened in harness racing and while it does happen more these days in harness racing, there are numerous other reasons why it's happening.

In the end, I say 3 minutes and you are cut off. While you are at.....reduce the takeout!!! LOL.

It is not a conspiracy theory when it is true, they most certainly do exist

I can speak to what i know is true--the Lexington hub is not CAW-but the real time satellite feed provides a latency advantage where the players there have sacrificed a big part of their rebate so they can bet after the bell--fact
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Harness Racing / Re: RATE THE TOP 3 WORST HARNESS RACE CALLERS
« Last post by Papillon on Today at 10:41:59 AM »
1--Huston

2--Warkentin

3--Oil
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Harness Racing / Re: RATE THE TOP 3 WORST HARNESS RACE CALLERS
« Last post by jupiter on Today at 10:37:07 AM »
1. The Mouth
2. The Mouth
3. The Mouth

He should win hands down.
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All anyone needs to know while following the Petrellie saga is, Mike will say anything at any time to goad his detractors.
He absolutely has a knack for making ‘ploppers’ show their ignorance (laziness).
He will lie right through his teeth, contradicting himself from one video to the next. I’d put together the video evidence myself, save for the fact, I’m usually too drunk. And when I’m not….I’m just lazy — See Ya Bye
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Yeah that was a waste of a day.  Was there almost all day for 3 drives and no checks.  He will still do very well at the Delaware tracks and earn a very nice living.  But I agree he is no longer relaxant at M1 like when he went by “The Captain”.  His stats at Harrahs Philly are even way down.  Has tailed off the last few seasons.  Almost seems disinterested.  Makes a lot of bad decisions on the track and has lost most of the big stables he once drove for.  Still a good guy and above average on a smaller circuit.  tmbz1
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Didn't he win all three features at Harrington last week? 
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