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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: Cleanupindustry on February 02, 2024, 10:01:23 AM
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Another suspension now til March 24. That’s ok. Let him still race under Michael Burke. So what’s the point of suspension. They should Barr every horse that had trainer Ron Burke as trainer unless that horse has new owner. Period. Go on vacation now Ron come back for stakes races. Unbelievable!!!!
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BURKE, RONALD J PRc on 10/16/2023
CANONSBURG, PA
YOB 1969
FINED: $2,500
FULL - 45 DAYS, 2/1/2024 THRU 3/16/2024
HORSE DISQUALIFIED, PURSE REDISTRIBUTION
POSITIVE TEST- POST RACE
Mass. 205 CMR 3.21 (7), 3.29 (1)(a),(g), 2(a). On 11/08/2023 Industrial Labs reported to the Massachusetts Gaming/Racing Division the post race test result of Urine Sample E630127, collected from the horse EVERY MANS DREAM on 10/16/2023. The test
revealed the presence of Gabapentin in the urine. Trainer of record Ron Burke was notified and exercised his right to a split sample. The split sample E630127 was forwarded to an independent lab of his choice and on 12/06/2023 the lab report from New York Drug Testing confirmed Gabapentin in the urine. On 01/29/2024 a hearing was conducted virtually and as a result Mr. Burke is hereby issued a full suspension for 45 days beginning 02/01/2024 through 3/16/2024. In addition he is fined the sum of $2,500. The horse EVERY MANS DREAM finished 1st and is disqualified. The purse money won, $37,500.00, is hereby ordered forfeited, returned and redistributed. Purse monies forfeited must be returned within 10 days of ruling. The fine is due within 48 hours of imposition. Mr. Burke has 10 days from date of ruling to appeal this decision in writing to the Massachusetts Racing Division.
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Someday maybe someone will have the balls to toss this Brigade.
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Some punishment, PRC is dark till April.
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Big M won't let Michael Burke in. That accounts for something.
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Read the last sentence. He will file appeal in 10 days. Gotta save some suspensions for next January vacation
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Another suspension now til March 24. That’s ok. Let him still race under Michael Burke. So what’s the point of suspension. They should Barr every horse that had trainer Ron Burke as trainer unless that horse has new owner. Period. Go on vacation now Ron come back for stakes races. Unbelievable!!!!
I see at times that they require an APPROVED transfer of horses from one trainer to another..... What are stipulations that would require the transfer ?
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Ships into Plainridge for 70k "all ready to GO" grabs the easy cash and ships right back out. How many times over the years has this ultimate juicer gotten away with moves like this. Somebody needs to put a Baffert like move on this guy like Kentucky did as a start.
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Ships into Plainridge for 70k "all ready to GO" grabs the easy cash and ships right back out. How many times over the years has this ultimate juicer gotten away with moves like this. Somebody needs to put a Baffert like move on this guy like Kentucky did as a start.
Right on. And some were concerned about the impact the influx of Maine stock would have once the casino opened and the purses increased.
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Can't work here. One stays away from the barn, another, who has been there the whole time, simply gets named in the program. Been that way since before two names were listed in the program. These rules are a farce.
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Ron Burke is just another cheat that has now defined what harness racing has become.
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Ron Burke is just another cheat that has now defined what harness racing has become.
So true. The Baffert of harness racing. Likely worse. Gabapentin block nerves from having pain.
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To dominate purse $ every year takes more than good stock. You have the horses prepared to win every race regardless of their aches and pain. The brigade has the secret sauce that can make it happen.
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Big M won't let Michael Burke in. That accounts for something.
Only because Gural doesn’t have horses with him
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How many positives has he had in total? Should be three strike rule, no family paper trainers etc
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Ron Burke is just another cheat that has now defined what harness racing has become.
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Only because Gural doesn’t have horses with him
On another thread they claim Ron is an invested in the New Meadowlands and is immune to Gural rules
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On another thread they claim Ron is an invested in the New Meadowlands and is immune to Gural rules
Not buying that. Not sure if Ron will even be welcome when suspension ens or Mike Burke would be in.
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Not buying that. Not sure if Ron will even be welcome when suspension ens or Mike Burke would be in.
He will be back but Gural not going to look like a fool letting baby brother go down as trainer
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On another thread they claim Ron is an invested in the New Meadowlands and is immune to Gural rules
Yeah, I said that, and if you think thats not accurate scratch your ass all through the stakes season. Burke is a Piece of Shit. Always has been. Weaver just as bad. They are vampires to the sport.
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We all agree we don't want him back. We can only hope Gural does the right thing. Burke is much more blemished than he has ever been.
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We all agree we don't want him back. We can only hope Gural does the right thing. Burke is much more blemished than he has ever been.
Only way for that to happen is Gural writes him a check and says thanks for your help.
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Only way for that to happen is Gural writes him a check and says thanks for your help.
If Burke is a hidden investor in the Meadowlands, that in itself can bring them all down.
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I have never heard of Burke being an investor at the Meadowlands. That would be an interesting equation.
With all the recent positives Burke can't be defended.
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Pa hillbilly who use baking soda to land some owners. Can't beaten buyem. MONOPOLY.
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Don't forget about the "LOOK THE OTHER WAY PASS for the death in a stake race!
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CALL THE DEPARTMENT OF STATE IN NEW JERSEY AND I AM SURE THEY WILL HAVE THE LIST /ENTITY THAT BOUGHT LEASED THE PROPERTY FROM THE STATE. IF IT IS AN ENTITY THE ENTITY MOST LIKELY DISCLOSED THEIR MEMBERS TO THE SECRETARY OF STATE.
THIS WAS A LARGE TRANSACTION AND I WOULD ASSUME THERE IS A LARGE PAPER TRAIL FROM THE ENTITY LEASING THE LAND FROM THE STATE. MOST LIKELY IS PUBLIC INFORMATION.
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Owners getting into the business of buying, owning racetracks are few and far between. Very few. Lou Guida did and he never did anything to not make money, or feed his ego. Gural, call him what you want, saved the Meadowlands. You don't like him, boycott his tracks and go play bingo, but tell your story walking. Did Gural do it to make money. Absolutely. At some point. He should make money. He's supposed to make money. This was not a non-profit endeavor forever. There was no call for morons, I mean volunteers, to come save the Meadowlands simply out of the goodness of their heart and do it for free. Did Gural do it eventually for a casino? I think so. I hope so. And, I hope they give it to him. Too many people here are simply too stupid to understand...you are better off with Gural owning and running the Meadowlands, and having other forms of revenue as well, than anyone else.
All that aside, Burke and his partners are not investors in the Meadowlands. Gural had to get the OK from the State on this, and don't think many other topics weren't considered, like online wagering, sports betting, and a casino.
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AGREED 100% WITH YOUR ENTIRE STATEMENT.
ADDITIONALLY, MR. GUIDA WAS A LEADER AND INNOVATOR AND TRUTHFULLY AN INSPIRATION!
RIP UNCLE LOU!
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I have never heard of Burke being an investor at the Meadowlands. That would be an interesting equation.
With all the recent positives Burke can't be defended.
Then you really haven't seen 2 much. Its a fact along with Siegels, Takter, Fieldings, Katz, Lieberman, Burke, and several others. Gural did not put up the the full bill.
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Don’t forget Peter Keinhans
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I say there is nobody else. I very highly doubt there is some entity or the like -- with other persons -- that "invested" in the Meadowlands. If, and I say if there is, they are limited partners, non-managing partners, non-voting, type of investors, but I would bet that Gural would have had to disclose that. Very few people in the industry have the stature Gural has. Very few people have the power, the connections, the clout, and more, that go along with it. If he was looking for investors, and he wanted people in the industry, well, I might guess that if George Segal was much, much younger, perhaps he would considered it. No way is Gural taking trainers though. No shot. He is not that foolish. Very few people in the industry could successfully go through the "vetting" process to operate the Meadowlands.
I wouldn't be surprised if a casino company "paid" in some form or fashion for the first rights to a casino at the Meadowlands. Something along these lines wouldn't be a surprise. But it doesn't take anything away from Gural. Whether he put up all the money or not, whether he has a walk-away repayment right or not, none of it matters. He stepped up. Nobody else did. And it's great that he did because nobody else could have saved the Meadowlands. Gural did. If you don't like it or him, tell your story walking and go play bingo.
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I was wondering what happened or what he got caught with. Oh well he will be back.
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Gural has partners/investors. To my knowledge, he has never publicly named them . However, he has spoken about them consistently when he was begging for state subsidies, horses and drivers.
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Yes, he does. Same as in the American Racing LLC, the owner of Tioga and Vernon. Small pieces no voting rights just passive investors.
Peter Kleinhans was mentioned as a passive investor by Mr. Dalrae. Very interesting character Peter is. His grandmother was a major real-estate investor in NYC hotels and other properties. She was extremely well respected as skilled negotiator and deal maker. She used to make Leona Helmsley quake when she was involved in a deal.
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hey come on now. As far as cheats go. Ronnie's a standup guy from the burgh.
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You don't grow a stable that big and dominate without bending the rules somewhere.
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The Mass racing commission caught somebody? Didn't even know they had one. Neither did Ronnie, lol.
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Someday maybe someone will have the balls to toss this Brigade.
Why because he wins too much? 73cv.2 73cv.2
Didn’t you sell him one of your horses?
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Wonder if Weaver has any idea how long Burkes been busting nuts on his wife's back when he's in Florida?
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Wonder if Weaver has any idea how long Burkes been busting nuts on his wife's back when he's in Florida?
I wonder if he even cares as much as you do, you don't think he can get the side pieces?
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Have you seen Weaver, Kole?
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Our sport has always been a little incestuous. Go to any track or farm, anybody fucks anybody. Drivers, Trainers, Owners ,wives, of both, grooms, vets and any other thing that would fuck.
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Jupiter we finally agree on something. 11.wp
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Is settlemoir an investor? Does his family have money?
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Not an investor in the Big M, but he has owned pieces of horses over the years.
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Is settlemoir an investor? Does his family have money?
Hell no his family has no money or in racing.
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Wonder if Weaver has any idea how long Burkes been busting nuts on his wife's back when he's in Florida?
When does he have time to train? Banging Weavers wife, Jenn Bo Bo, maybe his own wife?, and J. Hensley. This guy is like JFK! ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
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When does he have time to train? Banging Weavers wife, Jenn Bo Bo, maybe his own wife?, and J. Hensley. This guy is like JFK! ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
It only takes 20 seconds to insert the administration vessel full of secret sauce!💉💉💉💉💉💉💉💉💉💉💉💉💉💉💉💉💉💯
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Did someone say Ron is a trainer? No more like Alchemist.
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he is a really great trainer. probably the greatest of all time. he loves and cares for his animals. he would never do anything to hurt them.
he is really nice to the ladies of the backstretch. white pants fever is real. everyone loves a winner.
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he is a really great trainer. probably the greatest of all time. he loves and cares for his animals. he would never do anything to hurt them.
he is really nice to the ladies of the backstretch. white pants fever is real. everyone loves a winner.
What drugs are you on? Could you please let us know. I need some to make me naive and clueless so I won't have to deal with the politics this year! ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
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What a strategically crafted and timely release.
Guess whose back at the meadowlands this weekend??
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More bullshit and excuses from Burke. Wong ( cover article at US trotting website gets 2 year for Metformin) in the thoroughbred world. Well Gabapentin stops nerve pain. Where Burke is allowed I will not partake.
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What a strategically crafted and timely release.
Guess whose back at the meadowlands this weekend??
Yeap suck Gural dick in public and back in the sand box
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C'mon? will Yannick have the next press release? so fucking STAGED!!!!
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C'mon? will Yannick have the next press release? so fucking STAGED!!!!
Absolutely. Gural waits until pocono opens to stage this article and to start letting Burke back in.
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Gabapentin in humans is strictly used for nerve pain after shingles, it can cause breathing problems.
One would surmise if this drug caused breathing problems, it would not be ideal for a racehorse unless you wanted a bad performer.
Someone please fill me in.
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My heart pumps pee for Nancy, Tony and Ronny.
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I know little about medications but I can tell when they are total Bullshit.
Horse racing has lost public confidence because of all alleged doping going on.
So what does the "establishment" do?
What I see--is the number of positives for miniscule levels or"contamination" positives-- skyrocketing since HISA has come on the scene.
How does this improve racing integrity??The public--now sees MORE Class 1 positives than ever before.!
Now trainers are being outed for drugs used by previous trainers MONTHS after they have lost their effect!
I dont have any horses with Ron Burke--so no bias--but every single positive hes had the last couple of years--have had O effect on the horses when racing. Its a combination of his grooms being on drugs,sensitivity turned on full blast, and shipping barns etc-not being cleaned out at tracks.
My friend who is an Olympic athlete-told me he watches what he eats by being careful where his food comes from,he doesnt shake hands with people,watched where he goes to bathroom,and his supplements are all tested before he takes them. Told me he has to eat organic meat-because if any animal has been given hormones or clenbuterol-he could end his career-by having a level in his blood so low-that it wouldnt affect a tiny mouse--BUT it is in his body and thats all they care about. Its BS and needs to change.
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It may be how the government authorities work. Like Al Capone or the passing of the RICO act. Play the game with your hands tied as the as the cheaters do as they please, demands the governing authorities get their edge, too.
So you can't get them one way, you get them on much smaller counts and let them build in a progressive discipline system. Eventually, the players will need to change their game or go away. And, some will do that and some will leave. Either way, it is a cleansing that is necessary to have a future. The industry can not continue it's ways and expect to survive.
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My heart pumps pee for Nancy, Tony and Ronny.
Nancy's tits are hideous.
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hey come on now. As far as cheats go. Ronnie's a standup guy from the burgh.
Who remembers how RB became the leader of the Birgade????
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Gabapentin in humans is strictly used for nerve pain after shingles, it can cause breathing problems.
One would surmise if this drug caused breathing problems, it would not be ideal for a racehorse unless you wanted a bad performer.
Someone please fill me in.
Since 2016 when the CDC guidelines changed for pain meds, a lot of doctors started prescribing Gabapentin instead of opiates.
Citing It as an off label use, they even prescribe it to Cancer patients for pain, not nerve pain. Surgeons are giving patients Gaba post op, instead of pain meds.
The side effects from Gaba are many, most not good.
Of course some people have no issues on it, but a vast majority do,and it doesn't work.
Vets are also prescribing it for use in animals as a pain med, not a nerve med.
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When does he have time to train? Banging Weavers wife, Jenn Bo Bo, maybe his own wife?, and J. Hensley. This guy is like JFK! ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Is that a problem?? JFK was well liked and had plenty of $$$$!!
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i tend to agree with bond
this sport needs to get its shit together with some real leadership
determine what drugs are performance enhancing
determine what levels of those drugs are prohibited
and stop penalizing people for microscopic amounts on non ped
it can and needs to be done
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Maybe the small are due to the cover ups are not working full force ?..
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Maybe the small are due to the cover ups are not working full force ?..
What Nancy's tits?
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This is not true. I was prescribed Gabapentin for nerve pain which had noting to do with shingles.
Gabapentin would be a great drug if the goal was to see which horse could fall asleep the quickest and stay asleep the longest.
Then I guess they prescribe it to treat other nerve pain but when I read up on it nerve pain from the result of shingles was the most common ailment treated with it.
The main side effect was listed as causing difficulty breathing but I guess theres a few side effects.