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Re: RATE THE PERCENTAGE OF HONESTY LEFT IN HARNESS!
« Reply #15 on: February 08, 2024, 06:16:48 PM »
trainers in the 60s 70s 80s 90s were some of the crookedest scum in the
history of scum.. much easier to cheat back then.. wake up dipshits
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Re: RATE THE PERCENTAGE OF HONESTY LEFT IN HARNESS!
« Reply #16 on: February 08, 2024, 08:22:07 PM »
I could be way wrong here, but I think cheating today is more trainer-driven than it was in the 70's. I'm assuming that driver shenanigans have been constant.
Does my theory hold water?



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Re: RATE THE PERCENTAGE OF HONESTY LEFT IN HARNESS!
« Reply #17 on: February 08, 2024, 09:16:35 PM »
Thanks to the increase of purses in most of the Casino States the honesty meter is on a very slim glide path! There's enough money in the game now for a Priest to get to telling tales! The sport has become the perfect place to start an Investigative business! You better look before you leap nowadays! Check twice has been changed to you sure that you want to do this? Cash has been joined by horses as the root of all evil!

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« Reply #18 on: February 08, 2024, 10:58:33 PM »
I've only had 2 trainers in this business for 20 years.  Have my trainers had suspensions?---yes they have.  anything serious?  no  shit happens and life goes on.  If i didn't believe in my trainers, i wouldn't have been in the business!

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Re: RATE THE PERCENTAGE OF HONESTY LEFT IN HARNESS!
« Reply #19 on: February 08, 2024, 11:20:56 PM »
You must inject to collect I don't know how anyone can think they can race and make money without cheating

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Re: RATE THE PERCENTAGE OF HONESTY LEFT IN HARNESS!
« Reply #20 on: February 09, 2024, 04:36:05 AM »
It's the same as it always was, going back to the days when the mob stuffed Buddy Gilmore in his trunk because he was supposed to finish out of the money and somehow ran 2nd.  I'd give  it 10  percent.  When Henri Filion fixed  that race at Yonkers and tried to give the numbers to Leo Bauer, Leo didn't want em, so there's one honest person, lol.

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Re: RATE THE PERCENTAGE OF HONESTY LEFT IN HARNESS!
« Reply #21 on: February 09, 2024, 08:53:08 AM »
Bauer was a rat He wasn't honest he got caught and did what he had to do to get out of it. At Yonkers they found a guy dead in the trunk of his car in the parking lot. 

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Re: RATE THE PERCENTAGE OF HONESTY LEFT IN HARNESS!
« Reply #22 on: February 09, 2024, 09:21:02 AM »
About as honest as a car dealership!
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« Reply #23 on: February 09, 2024, 09:24:16 AM »
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Re: RATE THE PERCENTAGE OF HONESTY LEFT IN HARNESS!
« Reply #24 on: February 09, 2024, 09:36:32 AM »
It's the same as it always was, going back to the days when the mob stuffed Buddy Gilmore in his trunk because he was supposed to finish out of the money and somehow ran 2nd.  I'd give  it 10  percent.  When Henri Filion fixed  that race at Yonkers and tried to give the numbers to Leo Bauer, Leo didn't want em, so there's one honest person, lol.

Buddy Gilmour also got his ass kicked before they stuffed him in that trunk. That was back in the old days of RR.
I think the fixed race you speak of at YR was the Suzy Stonyford race, Herve was the ringleader of that doozy.

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« Reply #25 on: February 09, 2024, 11:50:17 AM »
There was another driver who got beat up and left for dead alongside of the road on his way to the track. It wasn't publicized he was in the hospital for a while.

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« Reply #26 on: February 09, 2024, 04:23:24 PM »
Buddy Gilmour also got his ass kicked before they stuffed him in that trunk. That was back in the old days of RR.
I think the fixed race you speak of at YR was the Suzy Stonyford race, Herve was the ringleader of that doozy.

Filion asked Bauer before the race if he was leaving because he was the only speed out of the 7 hole at like 10-1.  Filion was even money from the 3. Bauer shoots to the top. Lines up 7-1-2-3.  Filion makes a feeble 1st over bid.  Finishes 7-1-2 with Bauer on top at 10-1.  Somebody bets $500 straight tri Yonkers 7-1-2 and the thing pays like $90 with chalk out out.  Judges investigate, they question Bauer, Bauer says Filion asked him before the race if he was leaving.  Bauer said yes and Filion said good I'll give you the numbers.  Bauer said no I don't want them and told the judges all of this.  Henri never drives at Yonkers again.

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Re: RATE THE PERCENTAGE OF HONESTY LEFT IN HARNESS!
« Reply #27 on: February 09, 2024, 04:31:52 PM »
Read Larry Rolla's book "Against All Odds" Hilarious.

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Re: RATE THE PERCENTAGE OF HONESTY LEFT IN HARNESS!
« Reply #28 on: February 09, 2024, 04:41:27 PM »
See the above post (Depends what your last name is!)SMFH  11.wp

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« Reply #29 on: February 09, 2024, 04:45:35 PM »
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