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Title: How long before all the marijuana positive.
Post by: White Rabbit on March 03, 2024, 09:37:32 PM
When will we see all the marijuana positive. It’s legal everywhere and with all the grooms trainers & drivers track employees smoking and eating it , pissing in the stalls, pretty soon the containment positive. When we don’t see any that’s how you know the person pissed in the stall is bullshit. Cause no one will use it on a horse cause they know it test.
Title: Re: How long before all the marijuana positive.
Post by: kantseeback on March 03, 2024, 09:51:53 PM
When will we see all the marijuana positive. It’s legal everywhere and with all the grooms trainers & drivers track employees smoking and eating it , pissing in the stalls, pretty soon the containment positive. When we don’t see any that’s how you know the person pissed in the stall is bullshit. Cause no one will use it on a horse cause they know it test.

You will know which stable is using the most marijuana if you see the groom coming to the horse's stall with a case of cupcakes, horses get the munchies too.
Title: Re: How long before all the marijuana positive.
Post by: MIKE CAMPBELL on March 03, 2024, 10:04:52 PM
When will we see all the marijuana positive. It’s legal everywhere and with all the grooms trainers & drivers track employees smoking and eating it , pissing in the stalls, pretty soon the containment positive. When we don’t see any that’s how you know the person pissed in the stall is bullshit. Cause no one will use it on a horse cause they know it test.
As I posted in the past, the contamination excuse is all bullshit. Forget the pot positives. How come there isn't a million Tylenol or Advil positives. Million take Tylenol and Advil every day. Am I to believe that grooms that take Tylenol and Advil don't piss in stalls or test collectors and lab techs that handle blood and urine samples don't take Tylenol or Advil but apparently they are abusing oxy, gabapentin and crystal meth. IT'S ALL BULLSHIT!!
Title: Re: How long before all the marijuana positive.
Post by: Ramnap on March 04, 2024, 02:18:51 AM
I always wondered that too but I have never seen asprin, ibuprofen or acetaminophen called for positive. I know several people that prerace with ibuprofen tablets and never had issues so it's obvious they don't test. Most of the testing is done in group rotation that's why you see a  'rash' of positives like bute, dex, etc..they can't check for everything.
Title: Re: How long before all the marijuana positive.
Post by: Stan durbread on March 04, 2024, 06:22:43 AM
They have thresholds for aspirin and such. Won’t be a contaminant positive because of the levels allowed. Not sure what is up with the CBD and THC testing. There was a few products they were advertising as pre race improvement but haven’t heard of anyone that tried them
Title: Re: How long before all the marijuana positive.
Post by: bond on March 04, 2024, 08:42:19 AM
I always wondered that too but I have never seen asprin, ibuprofen or acetaminophen called for positive. I know several people that prerace with ibuprofen tablets and never had issues so it's obvious they don't test. Most of the testing is done in group rotation that's why you see a  'rash' of positives like bute, dex, etc..they can't check for everything.

Title: Re: How long before all the marijuana positive.
Post by: bond on March 04, 2024, 08:50:21 AM
I always wondered that too but I have never seen asprin, ibuprofen or acetaminophen called for positive. I know several people that prerace with ibuprofen tablets and never had issues so it's obvious they don't test. Most of the testing is done in group rotation that's why you see a  'rash' of positives like bute, dex, etc..they can't check for everything.

Bad Advice here!!!---Im no expert---but I believe all the above you mentioned can be tested for and WILL result in a positive if you use it too close to a race.There have been many cases of them coming up positive. Im also told that the reason they dont come up often--is that they have low level clearance---ie a small amount unlikely to affect the horse--will not trigger a positive.
Its different with marijuana ,opioids etc--a very small amount can still result in a positive--and even the metabolites( breakdown of the drug) can also result in a positive.
Title: Re: How long before all the marijuana positive.
Post by: remington on March 04, 2024, 10:08:15 AM
Mike you are right
Title: Re: How long before all the marijuana positive.
Post by: MIKE CAMPBELL on March 04, 2024, 03:28:18 PM
Mike you are right
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