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Title: how do you determine if the horse is drugged up by connections before the race?
Post by: GeeMoney on April 17, 2018, 06:08:26 AM
As a gambler it feels like a guessing game.   After racing it is easy to see who cheated but prior to racing how can we know?
Title: Re: how do you determine if the horse is drugged up by connections before the race?
Post by: Superfecta on April 17, 2018, 06:42:42 AM
It should be in the program
Title: Re: how do you determine if the horse is drugged up by connections before the race?
Post by: 2minuteman on April 17, 2018, 06:48:41 AM
The tote board at the Big M. 
Title: Re: how do you determine if the horse is drugged up by connections before the race?
Post by: trottingstud on April 17, 2018, 06:56:11 AM
How other horses from the same barn raced that night.
Title: Re: how do you determine if the horse is drugged up by connections before the race?
Post by: TTitans1 on April 17, 2018, 07:11:17 AM
To some extent, every horse in the race has been pre-raced. It comes down to who has the best juice. This is not an opinion, it`s a fact!
Title: Re: how do you determine if the horse is drugged up by connections before the race?
Post by: Refusedtopace on April 17, 2018, 07:48:59 AM
Look for the big “D” after the horses name. Seriously if you race clean you’re either wealthy, a moron or like finishing 6th.
Title: Re: how do you determine if the horse is drugged up by connections before the race?
Post by: TWOGOLDTEEFS on April 17, 2018, 10:40:45 AM
  (D)
Title: Re: how do you determine if the horse is drugged up by connections before the race?
Post by: hoosierboy on April 17, 2018, 03:53:07 PM
Considered majority of them drugged
Title: Re: how do you determine if the horse is drugged up by connections before the race?
Post by: Fatboy on April 17, 2018, 04:28:16 PM
PRE RACE COCKTAILS COMMON, PENA HAD THOUSANDS
Title: Re: how do you determine if the horse is drugged up by connections before the race?
Post by: viking55 on April 17, 2018, 09:46:50 PM
PRE RACE COCKTAILS COMMON, PENA HAD THOUSANDS

He wasn't/isn't the only one.
Title: Re: how do you determine if the horse is drugged up by connections before the race?
Post by: Johncicero on April 18, 2018, 12:18:15 AM
They all in some form and way are “preraced” some more then others .. most all have baking soda in them plus bleeder breather shot sometimes also something to block their throat .. and depending on lameness a pain shot ... prerace doesn’t always work on horses some actually have class .. some have foot issues and one week are up the track and the next run off the screen depending on if the abscess blew out .. look for high percentage trainers if you’re looking to gamble most of them have their horses on point .. when looking to cash on young horses and nw1 horses look to watch their qualifiers if they have replays or if you’re a consistent gambler at one track goto qualifiers in the morning and night and pay attention to the horse and driver to notice if they’re “just getting around there” or all out in a qualifier .. plus if at the track watch all the horses warm up it really does help .. some guys might be jogging 2 laps and others turn a slow mile and brush them on the end of it .. it’s not just based on prerace
Title: Re: how do you determine if the horse is drugged up by connections before the race?
Post by: tracks on April 18, 2018, 10:36:14 AM
I remember back in the 80's I saw the Stewart going through the Paddock checking tatos before the races.After they checked
his lip and moved on I saw him reach under the blanket with a syringe and hit the horse., He had a guy stand in front of the horse while
he hit him. It was a trotter and took a new life time mark. If I remember right he was a longshot and got bet down to third favorite.
Title: Re: how do you determine if the horse is drugged up by connections before the race?
Post by: Fatboy on April 18, 2018, 08:08:36 PM
They all in some form and way are “preraced” some more then others .. most all have baking soda in them plus bleeder breather shot sometimes also something to block their throat .. and depending on lameness a pain shot ... prerace doesn’t always work on horses some actually have class .. some have foot issues and one week are up the track and the next run off the screen depending on if the abscess blew out .. look for high percentage trainers if you’re looking to gamble most of them have their horses on point .. when looking to cash on young horses and nw1 horses look to watch their qualifiers if they have replays or if you’re a consistent gambler at one track goto qualifiers in the morning and night and pay attention to the horse and driver to notice if they’re “just getting around there” or all out in a qualifier .. plus if at the track watch all the horses warm up it really does help .. some guys might be jogging 2 laps and others turn a slow mile and brush them on the end of it .. it’s not just based on prerace

'MOST ALL HAVE BAKING SODA IN THEM" IS A STRETCH.... AS WELL AS KNOWING HOW THAY ARE GOING TO RACE BY WATCHING A WARM-UP...THIS ONLY WORKS IF THE HORSE IS AN ALREADY KNOWN COMMODITY AROUND THE TRACK...VERY TOUGH TO GET A PRICE ON A HORSE THAT WARMS UP LIKE A CHAMP...PEOPLE KNOW IF GREEN LIGHT IS LIT. AND.....SOME WARM UP LIKE ALBATROSS AND PUSSY OUT BEHIND THE GATE AS WELL....
Title: Re: how do you determine if the horse is drugged up by connections before the race?
Post by: Johncicero on April 18, 2018, 09:07:01 PM
Most horses have some form of bicarbonate day of the race lol
Title: Re: how do you determine if the horse is drugged up by connections before the race?
Post by: silent one on April 18, 2018, 09:42:20 PM
 A couple of simple guidelines may help.

  1. If the trainer is based in either Illinois, or Pennsylvania
  2. if the horse is owned by Jeff Gural

    Sincerely. Silent One
Title: Re: how do you determine if the horse is drugged up by connections before the race?
Post by: Fatboy on April 19, 2018, 09:20:52 AM
Most horses have some form of bicarbonate day of the race lol

IF U SAY SO IT GOTTA BE TRUE 73cv.2
Title: Re: how do you determine if the horse is drugged up by connections before the race?
Post by: zoot on April 19, 2018, 10:03:27 AM
this is one of the dumbest threads ive seen on here.
Title: Re: how do you determine if the horse is drugged up by connections before the race?
Post by: Fatboy on April 19, 2018, 10:36:52 AM
this is one of the dumbest threads ive seen on here.

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