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Hoosier park multi race wagers get a clue
« on: April 28, 2023, 02:46:44 PM »
Why does the race secretary keep putting 1/5 shot locks in these pick4/5 races? I mean all it does is reduce the wager down to a pick2 or 3. Move those 6 or 7 horse fields that have the standout 1/5 shot to the middle of card so they don’t water down the payout. Get a clue Hoosier reface office. This track is becoming little Yonkers with all of the cheating drug chemist and non winners guys stiffing horses to stay in the class. Please stop writing races nw/1 nw/2 nw/3 and just write non winners of 10k lifetime, non winners of 20k lifetime and non winners of 30k lifetime and so on. Enough of that stiffing to stay in the class by not winning. Take these guys like Eash, Rideout, Delong, macomber, Bender, wilfong amongst others. This shit has got to stop.

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Re: Hoosier park multi race wagers get a clue
« Reply #1 on: April 28, 2023, 03:34:42 PM »
Because Harrah's (amongst others) is a fucking cuntface!

Checked the program, not even a guaranteed p4, p5, p6.

Racing allows old ladies with crusty drawers to fart in a slot machine chair all day. 

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 $0.20 Pick 6 -2-3-3-3-1-5,8 $177.56 $380.76 - $1,286.83 (handle $906.07) (carryover) $735.91  ngc3

Harrah's thinks their horse player is retarded and treats them like shit.

The drivers you mentioned, some of them are clueless, don't have the skill to fix a race, and them and their pets 2-3% winning percentage and how they look on the track is an indicator. 

Everybody with a brain who was involved in a multi leg wager Wednesday was thrilled this guy was in it because he was an insta toss -10    Energy King
 [10    8/9    6°/13H    7°°/16H    6/12    5/5T   1:58.4    27.2    *0.90     Doug Rideout    Doug Rideout

Maybe we'll get lucky and all the casinos will fall into a sinkhole!   ;D
   
 
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Re: Hoosier park multi race wagers get a clue
« Reply #2 on: April 28, 2023, 10:22:23 PM »
Laughing my ass off tonight at these Amish hillbillies driving at Hoosier. There are about 10 horses that were claimed tonight and some of these fucken drivers are actually sitting inside giving the claimed horse that they will no longer be driving a nice inside trip so the new trainer and owner get a nice fresh horse and the gambler who bet on them thinking they’d be rolling the horse cause it’s their last start get a big dick in their mouth. Are you fucken kidding me? Who are these jag offs that call themselves drivers and where did they come from, they’re mommas asshole? They announce in post parade that your horse is getting claimed and like a child molesting sock puppet queer you’re sitting 5th on the rail turning for home. You should get the head pole shoved up your ass upon pulling up the horse in the paddock area.
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« Reply #3 on: April 28, 2023, 10:54:22 PM »
Laughing my ass off tonight at these Amish hillbillies driving at Hoosier. There are about 10 horses that were claimed tonight and some of these fucken drivers are actually sitting inside giving the claimed horse that they will no longer be driving a nice inside trip so the new trainer and owner get a nice fresh horse and the gambler who bet on them thinking they’d be rolling the horse cause it’s their last start get a big dick in their mouth. Are you fucken kidding me? Who are these jag offs that call themselves drivers and where did they come from, they’re mommas asshole? They announce in post parade that your horse is getting claimed and like a child molesting sock puppet queer you’re sitting 5th on the rail turning for home. You should get the head pole shoved up your ass upon pulling up the horse in the paddock area.

After reading this I watched every claiming race replay that already ran there.  I'm sure I didn't hear all the horses the race caller said were claimed before the gait opened but the ones that I heard claimed he said ran ok.  I'm not doubting you, but when you don't watch live you're at disadvantage with replay only.

The purse is their salary and OUR betting pool they think is sucker money and their bonus. 

Remember those horses for payback later and add fire to the end of that head pole you suggest.  ;D
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Re: Hoosier park multi race wagers get a clue
« Reply #4 on: April 28, 2023, 11:35:30 PM »
Laughing my ass off tonight at these Amish hillbillies driving at Hoosier. There are about 10 horses that were claimed tonight and some of these fucken drivers are actually sitting inside giving the claimed horse that they will no longer be driving a nice inside trip so the new trainer and owner get a nice fresh horse and the gambler who bet on them thinking they’d be rolling the horse cause it’s their last start get a big dick in their mouth. Are you fucken kidding me? Who are these jag offs that call themselves drivers and where did they come from, they’re mommas asshole? They announce in post parade that your horse is getting claimed and like a child molesting sock puppet queer you’re sitting 5th on the rail turning for home. You should get the head pole shoved up your ass upon pulling up the horse in the paddock area.

Maybe most of these guys only earn money if the horse gets a check?

If you want, we can start a GoFundMe page to get your 2 bucks back?
 
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Re: Hoosier park multi race wagers get a clue
« Reply #5 on: April 28, 2023, 11:43:33 PM »
Maybe most of these guys only earn money if the horse gets a check?

If you want, we can start a GoFundMe page to get your 2 bucks back?
Let’s just say you are right. Even more so to pull the horse or drive the horse harder than ever have because you are most likely losing your drive? I mean why sit inside hoping for the Red Sea to part knowing it’s the last start?
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« Reply #6 on: April 29, 2023, 08:36:47 AM »
It's one thing to claim a horse when the last connection didn't want them anymore, maybe the NEW think they know something but to bet on CLAIMER races takes a special kind of moron.  Yeh, better trainer change, I know, how's that working out on your bottom.....line!   ;D 
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« Reply #7 on: April 30, 2023, 12:08:30 AM »
It's one thing to claim a horse when the last connection didn't want them anymore, maybe the NEW think they know something but to bet on CLAIMER races takes a special kind of moron.  Yeh, better trainer change, I know, how's that working out on your bottom.....line!   ;D
It actually works out pretty good because even the most moronic trainer/ driver sends their horse knowing that this is it, last time to get anything so I gotta go balls out and not leave anything on the table. But at Hoosier, I guess my line of thinking is off base because hillbilly’s have a 3rd grade mentality. It does seem to work at most other tracks. But that’s what I get for trying to bet on the inbred moron child molesters who drive and race at Hoosier.
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« Reply #8 on: April 30, 2023, 12:37:12 AM »
It actually works out pretty good because even the most moronic trainer/ driver sends their horse knowing that this is it, last time to get anything so I gotta goes balls out. But st Hoosier, I guess my line of thinking is off base. It does seem to work at most other tracks. But that’s what I get for trying to bet on the inbred moron child molesters who drive at Hoosier.

Talk to the people at the claim box, horseman's bookkeeper.  Be very friendly and yap it up with them but not as a gambler, maybe some insight.  Maybe people claimed horses that turned out to be junkies, racing unwell, we have seen many times horses claimed not race back or anywhere, I don't always suspect injury, but maybe sick, withdrawal and trainers are not seeking more attention.  New trainer may not always be honest with owner, as to make it look like they made a bad call and lose client.

About 6000 races worldwide per week, when the "food tastes sour" at Hoosier, time for a break to "dine" elsewhere or just a vacation period, come back there refreshed.  A new track(s) will just be a brief adjustment period.   Long term, navigate away from claiming races and stick to less races, and high value purses dispersed over more tracks.  Make sure before you bet you give every horse a chance to tell you their story when handicapping, before you finalize.   

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Re: Hoosier park multi race wagers get a clue
« Reply #9 on: April 30, 2023, 02:09:10 AM »
Talk to the people at the claim box, horseman's bookkeeper.  Be very friendly and yap it up with them but not as a gambler, maybe some insight.  Maybe people claimed horses that turned out to be junkies, racing unwell, we have seen many times horses claimed not race back or anywhere, I don't always suspect injury, but maybe sick, withdrawal and trainers are not seeking more attention.  New trainer may not always be honest with owner, as to make it look like they made a bad call and lose client.

About 6000 races worldwide per week, when the "food tastes sour" at Hoosier, time for a break to "dine" elsewhere or just a vacation period, come back there refreshed.  A new track(s) will just be a brief adjustment period.   Long term, navigate away from claiming races and stick to less races, and high value purses dispersed over more tracks.  Make sure before you bet you give every horse a chance to tell you their story when handicapping, before you finalize.   

You only owe yourself loyalty.  GL!  tmbz1     
I don’t think you understand precisely what I am referring to. However, What I’m not referring to is the first start off the claim. What I am saying is 99% of the time at any racetrack, standardbred or tbred, when there is an announcement BEFORE the race that so and so has a claim filed, the trainer usually instructs the driver or jockey to go balls to walls because they are losing the horse and at no cost, do not leave anything on the track for the new connections. But for some reason these fucking inbred drivers at Hoosier know well ahead of time that said horse is being claimed, yet they sit on the rail trying to get an easy trip to conserve the horse for the following week, when they will most likely no longer get the drive and the trainer will lose the horse to the successful claimant. I don’t know about you, but for 50+ years most of the gamblers usually fire on the announced claimed horse because they understand that the announced claimed horse is are immediately “live” and going for it all.   But again these Amish hillbillies at Hoosier save the horse so the new owners have a fresh horse for the following week in their first start. LMAO. It’s hilarious!!! If my driver knew that my horse was getting claimed and raced the horse easy, I’d punch him right in the face.
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Re: Hoosier park multi race wagers get a clue
« Reply #10 on: April 30, 2023, 07:35:43 AM »
agree 1/5 shots ruin p4 if they win

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Re: Hoosier park multi race wagers get a clue
« Reply #11 on: April 30, 2023, 09:35:50 AM »
I don’t think you understand precisely what I am referring to. However, What I’m not referring to is the first start off the claim. What I am saying is 99% of the time at any racetrack, standardbred or tbred, when there is an announcement BEFORE the race that so and so has a claim filed, the trainer usually instructs the driver or jockey to go balls to walls because they are losing the horse and at no cost, do not leave anything on the track for the new connections. But for some reason these fucking inbred drivers at Hoosier know well ahead of time that said horse is being claimed, yet they sit on the rail trying to get an easy trip to conserve the horse for the following week, when they will most likely no longer get the drive and the trainer will lose the horse to the successful claimant. I don’t know about you, but for 50+ years most of the gamblers usually fire on the announced claimed horse because they understand that the announced claimed horse is are immediately “live” and going for it all.   But again these Amish hillbillies at Hoosier save the horse so the new owners have a fresh horse for the following week in their first start. LMAO. It’s hilarious!!! If my driver knew that my horse was getting claimed and raced the horse easy, I’d punch him right in the face.

You're applying logic, good logic, once all VERY GOOD handicappers used  including after the claim if Horse claimed by better trainer might be a good follow and bet, maybe if moved outside claiming.  Obviously it doesn't work now and it doesn't make sense why not try on a horse you're losing to another owner after the race, yet you say they don't try.

I got this all along, why I tried to deploy you to talk to the people behind the scenes, and generally speaking, EXCELLENT-Professional gambling handicappers avoid claiming races.   tmbz1
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Re: Hoosier park multi race wagers get a clue
« Reply #12 on: April 30, 2023, 03:47:24 PM »
"maybe people claim horses that turn out to be junkies"     Interesting thought in these times of small betting pools and high purses.  The opposite of what it used to be. :P

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« Reply #13 on: April 30, 2023, 04:21:38 PM »
"maybe people claim horses that turn out to be junkies"     Interesting thought in these times of small betting pools and high purses.  The opposite of what it used to be. :P

In a very big stakes race, it's high profile too, best to race clean is the typical rule of thumb.

Business as usual though...In an incorruptible system where everything pre-race - post race is being done exactly to mitigate - prevent ie doping, etc and all those that are not only paid, but ethics demanded of them are doing what they are supposed to do......lol...... we live in the real world, with involved parties with families, planning to pay for education, weddings, buy a new car.....and once that line is crossed it's easier to stay on the side that makes life comfortable then go back to what's right.

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Re: Hoosier park multi race wagers get a clue
« Reply #14 on: April 30, 2023, 06:27:09 PM »
You're applying logic, good logic, once all VERY GOOD handicappers used  including after the claim if Horse claimed by better trainer might be a good follow and bet, maybe if moved outside claiming.  Obviously it doesn't work now and it doesn't make sense why not try on a horse you're losing to another owner after the race, yet you say they don't try.

I got this all along, why I tried to deploy you to talk to the people behind the scenes, and generally speaking, EXCELLENT-Professional gambling handicappers avoid claiming races.   tmbz1
As a gambler I’ve never really cared much after the claim who the new connections are. What I’ve had much success at is betting on whoever the announced claimed horse is minutes before the race. It still works today after all this time, EXCEPT at Hoosier where the B-C drivers colony have no clue. However, with that being said I would never be scared to claim a horse at Hoosier because you don’t have to worry about the inbred drivers tearing up your new horse. Great place to claim a horse. Not like in New York where those guys with brutalize any claimed horse and give you an animal that will most likely need a week off.

 

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