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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: Brkn Headpole on July 07, 2018, 09:51:29 PM
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Dowse blew up the box at Pocono Nuclear Downs.
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no rules at pocono
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No worries he trains for Taylor
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i dont think they ever do anything at pocono
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Fuck HT
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Doesn't Tom Grossman of Blue Chip Farms employ this outfit?
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Doesn't Tom Grossman of Blue Chip Farms employ this outfit?
Yeap
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P A has to get off it's ASS and do something with these Beard
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Doesn't Tom Grossman of Blue Chip Farms employ this outfit?
Another guy who has his eyes wide shut
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5 Nocturnal Bluechip SCR PRT SCR NB Gareth Dowse (BEARD)
Scratched: Nocturnal Bluechip (JG FPR)
His wife can go down...as trainer
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Curtis Carey next ?
😂😂😂
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His wife can go down...as trainer
I HEARD EFFIMETZ IS COMING BACK!!
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His wife can go down...as trainer
Didn't she get a recent spanking ? She may go down on the trainer, not for the trainer.
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Alls well no suspension coming
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Alls well no suspension coming
Contamination issue
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You have to shoot the investigators in the eye with a syringe to get suspended in pa.
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Lots of baking soda blowing around this summer...
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My god you hill jacks on this board are dense, with no comprehension of the game, how it’s played; and for that reason what needs to be done to fix it, if possible. Not that you aren’t too lazy to actually do it, mind you, but just sit around on your asses running your mouths for something to do. Do something meaningful and productive to change the rules or please, for your own sakes and ours, just shut the fuck up. Or for Christ sake, at least complain about something real.
First of all, as I’ve detailed in the past for the slow learners, it’s extraordinarily easy to comply fully with the rules that are written and therefore NOT be a beard. These people, in all likelihood, simply aren’t beards because they no doubt are in complete compliance, have separate bank accounts established that they can produce upon request to show the suspended trainer is not writing or receiving the checks, are licensed, and can demonstrate their ability to train the stock. And that’s basically all it takes. The rules do not preclude that person from farming out any or all of the physical and strategic work involved to other people. Rules that also allow trainers of all stripes to do little things like, oh, take vacations, sick days or the occasional night off without the horse or horses actually being in their care and custody at all times. That won’t be changing any time soon. And neither should it, so you really have no valid arguments there.
Second, ownership can easily be put in the names of wives or other capable family members who cannot, as the owner and according to statute, be prevented from training their own stock so long as they’re licensed. In the case of wives, they do not even have to show financial separation, because duh.
Thirdly, the horsemen that are the most contemptible are the very first to bitch and moan, crying “beard”. Owners need to be able to race their horse(s), which have to go somewhere in the event of positives and it doesn’t make their stand- in trainers “beards” either. But all these very same horsemen would also be the first to be loathe to change a single one of the existing rules, that might have any potential of altering the status quo, which could conceivably be detrimental to them personally. THAT is the reason nothing changes. So if you want to complain, complain about the whole thing being set up to protect and benefit horsemen, who incidentally, run it all and need to fix it themselves by accepting that all stables have to remain small and independently run and operated or they just have nothing to complain about - being theirs and horseplayers own worst enemy.
Which brings us to the final point to wrap it all up: For all of the horseplayers bitching on here, either get involved yourselves, if you don’t like it, or suck it up, take some responsibility and walk away. My guess, however, is that you either won’t or can’t, which means you have only yourselves to blame. So in any case, honestly… just shut the fuck up with your “beard” griping already. They’re just boogieman stories intended to hobble larger outfits that every small outfit aspires to being, despite their bitching, and nothing more. You’re being played and wound up by those uncompetitive horsemen. Don’t make the mistake of believing they’re on your side or care about you. They aren’t and they don’t.
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LISTEN TO ms0 ABOUT BEING A BEARD, IT RUNS IN HER FAMILY, SHE WROTE A CHAPTER IN THE BOOK ON BEING A BEARDED CLAM
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My god you hill jacks on this board are dense, with no comprehension of the game, how it’s played; and for that reason what needs to be done to fix it, if possible. Not that you aren’t too lazy to actually do it, mind you, but just sit around on your asses running your mouths for something to do. Do something meaningful and productive to change the rules or please, for your own sakes and ours, just shut the fuck up. Or for Christ sake, at least complain about something real.
First of all, as I’ve detailed in the past for the slow learners, it’s extraordinarily easy to comply fully with the rules that are written and therefore NOT be a beard. These people, in all likelihood, simply aren’t beards because they no doubt are in complete compliance, have separate bank accounts established that they can produce upon request to show the suspended trainer is not writing or receiving the checks, are licensed, and can demonstrate their ability to train the stock. And that’s basically all it takes. The rules do not preclude that person from farming out any or all of the physical and strategic work involved to other people. Rules that also allow trainers of all stripes to do little things like, oh, take vacations, sick days or the occasional night off without the horse or horses actually being in their care and custody at all times. That won’t be changing any time soon. And neither should it, so you really have no valid arguments there.
Second, ownership can easily be put in the names of wives or other capable family members who cannot, as the owner and according to statute, be prevented from training their own stock so long as they’re licensed. In the case of wives, they do not even have to show financial separation, because duh.
Thirdly, the horsemen that are the most contemptible are the very first to bitch and moan, crying “beard”. Owners need to be able to race their horse(s), which have to go somewhere in the event of positives and it doesn’t make their stand- in trainers “beards” either. But all these very same horsemen would also be the first to be loathe to change a single one of the existing rules, that might have any potential of altering the status quo, which could conceivably be detrimental to them personally. THAT is the reason nothing changes. So if you want to complain, complain about the whole thing being set up to protect and benefit horsemen, who incidentally, run it all and need to fix it themselves by accepting that all stables have to remain small and independently run and operated or they just have nothing to complain about - being theirs and horseplayers own worst enemy.
Which brings us to the final point to wrap it all up: For all of the horseplayers bitching on here, either get involved yourselves, if you don’t like it, or suck it up, take some responsibility and walk away. My guess, however, is that you either won’t or can’t, which means you have only yourselves to blame. So in any case, honestly… just shut the fuck up with your “beard” griping already. They’re just boogieman stories intended to hobble larger outfits that every small outfit aspires to being, despite their bitching, and nothing more. You’re being played and wound up by those uncompetitive horsemen. Don’t make the mistake of believing they’re on your side or care about you. They aren’t and they don’t.
CAN SOMEONE POST A SUMMARY OF THIS?
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CAN SOMEONE POST A SUMMARY OF THIS?
MSO--1) Details that trainers who can genuinely show THEY solely train and comply with all rules and regulations are NOT Beards.
2) She makes claims that banned horses can be placed in family members names (wives) as owners-(may be true in some States but not in all)
3) Has a bee in her bonnet about folk always whining about Beards on plop -which surely the commissions should be able to ferret out on their own-like they are doing in Delaware. ie Haters going to hate-and shes sick of it.
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MSO--1) Details that trainers who can genuinely show THEY solely train and comply with all rules and regulations are NOT Beards.
2) She makes claims that banned horses can be placed in family members names (wives) as owners-(may be true in some States but not in all)
3) Has a bee in her bonnet about folk always whining about Beards on plop -which surely the commissions should be able to ferret out on their own-like they are doing in Delaware. ie Haters going to hate-and shes sick of it.
THANK YOU BOND. I GOT 1/3 OF THE WAY THROUGH HER POST AND I NODDED OFF
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CAN SOMEONE POST A SUMMARY OF THIS?
Ms O knows a lot about beards because the forum lesbian has one!
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When they ban the entire stable that a trainer has when he or she gets a positive they will fix the problems ................. ............
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Marks/Dowse just fine.
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I like that post!!! It basically sums up the reason people hate the game!! People fucking hate marks and guy should be in jail and blue chip has become a joke to employ that guy. Shame on Drowse for helping that ass clown out.
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When they ban the entire stable that a trainer has when he or she gets a positive they will fix the problems ................. ............
very true but don't see that happen
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Just bet when you think hes good , just like the other gassers.
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I like that post!!! It basically sums up the reason people hate the game!! People fucking hate marks and guy should be in jail and blue chip has become a joke to employ that guy. Shame on Drowse for helping that ass clown out.
josh is a good friend
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Even making Andy and Julie looked dumb. Josh must have the highest octane on Earth!!!
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Nope that would be Takter and Oakes
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josh is a good friend
He said he never heard of you
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Courtly choice in 47.1..is their a connection..
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BLAKE AND CASIE GOOD FRIENDS
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wrong
SINCE WHEN?
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wrong
your wrong
blake was casie's second trainer
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Blake was not casies second trainer
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Blake was not casies second trainer
Well idk what he was
But he worked for casie that’s all I know
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Well idk what he was
But he worked for casie that’s all I know
yeah he worked for her..he fucked her.. ngc3 ngc3
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Yes I have no idea
It’s not like I see casie like once a week in Florida during the winter 43z.stf 84zac.1
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Meanwhile how did the money burning team of Dowse /marks do at pocono Saturday night ? 7 racetime favorites 2 wins at even money . Burn baby burn
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I think jimmy was drunk or hungover,,,watch the first 3 races the guy missed the gate by 3 lengths in each,,,,,drive like he was impaired the whole card
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Agent for Howard Taylor and blue chip at the sale . I guess with Howard taking the side of the commission he has the right away to do what he wants .
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Definitely driven poorly by Jimmy
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Agent for Howard Taylor and blue chip at the sale . I guess with Howard taking the side of the commission he has the right away to do what he wants .
THOSE HEEBS STICK TOGETHER
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Josh marks AKA gareth dowse high blood gas at chester how long does this go on before the new BEARD 11.wp ngc3 ;D ;D
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Im available
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This combo is not killing it by no means , especially when gareth is driving . Wtf.
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Thats only one positive every 2 weeks !!!
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Why waste your time saying anything Howard Taylor owns a sweeper company lol under the rug it will go .
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Where did you find the positive? I’ve checked USTA 100x but am unable to find any positive for Dowse...
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Where did you find the positive? I’ve checked USTA 100x but am unable to find any positive for Dowse...
he was scratched the other day at either harrahs or pocono (cant remeber) for a Pre race test positive
happened twice in last few weeks
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Where did you find the positive? I’ve checked USTA 100x but am unable to find any positive for Dowse...
did you look under the rug?
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Thank you!!
Amazing how some of these guys don’t get caught. 68 Year Old Harry Groves gets hit with a positive Post Race test for Flunixin after Southern Kid won easily at 99-1. Dowse is hitting with everything. Blows my mind
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Thank you!!
Amazing how some of these guys don’t get caught. 68 Year Old Harry Groves gets hit with a positive Post Race test for Flunixin after Southern Kid won easily at 99-1. Dowse is hitting with everything. Blows my mind
They only catch who they want to
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How do they keep taking his entries . Howard Taylor absolutely the greatest around to keep these guys racing . Lord knows what kind of envelope he slide under this rug ..
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How do they keep taking his entries . Howard Taylor absolutely the greatest around to keep these guys racing . Lord knows what kind of envelope he slide under this rug ..
pork Chop, please stop. Everyone knows that you're the biggest crybaby in the business. Actually, you are no longer in the business for the next 2 years
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Just can't figure how Gural allows Dowse to keep racing at his tracks if he's "against" doping...
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Just can't figure how Gural allows Dowse to keep racing at his tracks if he's "against" doping...
gural allows andy miller and burke!!!!
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Howard you know me from garden and I know you and Porkchop I’m not him but I will tell you why don’t you call him and tell him he’s a crybaby. Doubt you will . He will be on later always is and he will comment I’m sure .
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Thanks howard on advice of alan ill say nothing but you are funny ...see you on the 31st. Bring me tissues please so i can cry.....
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HOWARD IS JUST GIVING GARRETT A CHANCE,,,,,,,TAKING A SHOT WITH A HARD WORKER
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They get away with murder and it`s a fucking disgrace! License to steal!