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General Category => Political Roundtable => Topic started by: wizardofoz on October 22, 2023, 08:18:16 PM
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President Joe Biden’s hopes for re-election are quickly fading as he trails former President Donald Trump by a significant margin in several crucial swing states. According to a recent Bloomberg and Morning Consult poll, Biden is currently behind Trump by four percentage points, with Trump leading at 47 percent and Biden at 43 percent among voters in Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Nevada, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin. This poll, which surveyed over 5,000 registered voters, has a negligible margin of error.
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Who gives a crap on this board. Take your political BS somewhere else especially about that lying piece of crap.
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Who? The ENTIRE section is about POLITICS. Some cannot handle the facts.
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Please notice that I am the only Plopper to respond to your political topic. Not everything is political here. In fact there isn’t much.
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President Joe Biden’s hopes for re-election are quickly fading as he trails former President Donald Trump by a significant margin in several crucial swing states. According to a recent Bloomberg and Morning Consult poll, Biden is currently behind Trump by four percentage points, with Trump leading at 47 percent and Biden at 43 percent among voters in Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Nevada, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin. This poll, which surveyed over 5,000 registered voters, has a negligible margin of error.
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Your post is good and important.
We keep seeing, reading and hearing about national polls. As far as the 2024 presidential election goes, they are meaningless.
The only polls that matter are those in the swing states and perhaps a few more states that may currently be less leaning (or even solid) red or blue.
tmbz1
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I'm no fan of Trump. But if it's a Biden/Trump election, Trump will win.
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Agreed. But the point will be moot because, Biden will not be running for POTUS next year.
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I agree Trump would beat Biden at this point and there is no way the Dem's can risk that therefore, Biden will be replaced on the ticket. Can you imagine if Trump is reelected his justice department will have the majority of the Dem's in the senate indicted. It would be great TV.
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Get ready for the faggot from Cali. vs Trump
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Gavin Newsome or maybe beg Michelle Obama to run.
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Michelle does not want to go near that job and have her past dissected by the campaigns. She gets millions now doing nothing and Barry, aka Barack, is running Biden's show now any way and destroying the country with open borders. Remember, in 2008 Barack said the wanted to 'TRANSFORM AMERICA' but could not get it down during his 8 years so he has Biden getting the blame now as he sits back and smiles from the shadows at his creation! She cannot handle Putin nor terrorists, nor North Korea and Iran, etc. She is a nobody on the world stage in policy debate!
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I agree Michelle Obama doesn’t need or desire a presidential run. However to say that Donald Trump would win a debate about anything with his third grade vocabulary is just utter nonsense. Without a teleprompter he can barely put more than a few simple words together without fumbling their meanings no less the true facts. Why do you think Trump doesn’t want to be part of any debate? It is not just because he owns a big lead vs other republicans. He knows the right debater would tear him apart.
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Get ready for the faggot from Cali. vs Trump
For a guy who works incredibly hard to give off an "I'm legit" vibe, this is pretty fucking nasty.
You must need your MAGA Retard street cred boosted.
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I see. So faggot is "nasty", but "retard" is cool, right? You are gonna be on the verge of suicide a year from now, when Donald J Trump is elected to another 4 year term. Can't wait for the meltdowns to begin again.
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I agree Michelle Obama doesn’t need or desire a presidential run. However to say that Donald Trump would win a debate about anything with his third grade vocabulary is just utter nonsense. Without a teleprompter he can barely put more than a few simple words together without fumbling their meanings no less the true facts. Why do you think Trump doesn’t want to be part of any debate? It is not just because he owns a big lead vs other republicans. He knows the right debater would tear him apart.
Are you sure you don't have Biden and Trump mixed up? Every time I see Joe talking I cringe with the constant verbal mis steps, eye squinting while reading someone else's words and his oratory in general.
Trump shoots from the hip and tells it straight, No teleprompter needed.
Trump exaggerates just like every other politician, Joe included.
As recent history has taught us a silver tongue does not necessarily make a good president.
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Get ready for the faggot from Cali. vs Trump
Oh how I would love to be his hair gel salesman.
I would make millions.
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What the hell are you smoking? Obviously you are drinking the Trump kool-aid if you think Trump tells everything “straight”. He lies about everything. He has no respect for women. He loves dictators that are country lists as enemies. He has the vocabulary of a chimpanzee. Forget comparing him to Joe Biden although that’s the only comeback Trump people fall back on. He is in so much legal trouble it is mind boggling that so many Americans don’t understand how ineffective he would be with all the issues facing him. And if he loses the right to do business in NY you can kiss his so called wealth away. He will go down as the most corrupt person ever residing in the White House. Take your Trump BS to some other fat assed loving website and spare us of your total ignorance of what the truth is.
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What the hell are you smoking? Obviously you are drinking the Trump kool-aid if you think Trump tells everything “straight”. He lies about everything. He has no respect for women. He loves dictators that are country lists as enemies. He has the vocabulary of a chimpanzee. Forget comparing him to Joe Biden although that’s the only comeback Trump people fall back on. He is in so much legal trouble it is mind boggling that so many Americans don’t understand how ineffective he would be with all the issues facing him. And if he loses the right to do business in NY you can kiss his so called wealth away. He will go down as the most corrupt person ever residing in the White House. Take your Trump BS to some other fat assed loving website and spare us of your total ignorance of what the truth is.
Getting a bit testy aren't we.
I believe President Taft has the record for most overweight president so Trump would have to get on the donut diet to catch him.
I would like a sip of what you are drinking because it takes some serious beer goggle to think that Biden is, sane, competent, not a puppet, a good orator, Adept at any sort of dexterity.
Trump has piles of cash which he made as you stated in business, on the other hand Joe and the Biden family made millions and he personally has 3 multi million dollar houses off bribes from Americas enemies and made all these millions on a government salary.
I have a premonition that when Joe's presidency ends there will be lawsuits a flyin' from every conservative state prosecutor in the nation.
I'm sure at some future date Trump will retire to his villa in Florida.
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No president has ever been loved more than President Trump, with that said also hated by the left.
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Getting a bit testy aren't we.
I believe President Taft has the record for most overweight president so Trump would have to get on the donut diet to catch him.
I would like a sip of what you are drinking because it takes some serious beer goggle to think that Biden is, sane, competent, not a puppet, a good orator, Adept at any sort of dexterity.
Trump has piles of cash which he made as you stated in business, on the other hand Joe and the Biden family made millions and he personally has 3 multi million dollar houses off bribes from Americas enemies and made all these millions on a government salary.
I have a premonition that when Joe's presidency ends there will be lawsuits a flyin' from every conservative state prosecutor in the nation.
I'm sure at some future date Trump will retire to his villa in Florida.
Again the only way to defend Trump is to say stuff about Biden. You have absolutely no defense without going on about Biden. I could care less about Biden. What I do know is Trump is the worst choice for any public position including dog catcher. He has been indicted more times than you fart in one week but he smells worse.
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Again the only way to defend Trump is to say stuff about Biden. You have absolutely no defense without going on about Biden. I could care less about Biden. What I do know is Trump is the worst choice for any public position including dog catcher. He has been indicted more times than you fart in one week but he smells worse.
I tend to stay on an offensive position because it's not in my nature to take a defensive stance.
I will coin the late former mayor of NY Ed Koch by asking, how am I doing?
My auto insurance bill has almost doubled in the last 2 years, my electric bill has doubled in the last 2 years, my grocery bill has doubled in 2 years, my cable bill has gone up 50 pct in 2 years, the world is a war-torn mess.
Thats part of why I think Joe sucks, he has no clue and isn't competent to run a lemonade stand.
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Jimmy Carter 2.0 with Biden. Spend spend spend and let every illegal into our Country. There are reasons Biden is behind Trump and its hard to explain to the average bumpkin.
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There is no doubt that Trump and Biden spent incredible amounts of taxpayer money without regard to the deficit. Last week it was reported that Trump added 5 trillion to the deficit while so far Biden 3. They are both totally irresponsible. What republicans refuse to admit is the effect of Trump’s spending has been on the time after he was in office. Biden gets all the blame which is just dumb. Where Biden has totally screwed up is his allowing our southern boarders to be open. Many of our cities are now cess pools filled with illegal immigrants and homeless. SF, LA, NYC, Portland and Seattle used to be great destinations but that’s so far in the rear view mirror now. I’ve been saying for two years that a Trump-Biden rematch will go down as the two worst candidates America has ever experienced. If I know it when will the MAGAs and Joe lovers realize this and push both parties for much better candidates?
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I see. So faggot is "nasty", but "retard" is cool, right? You are gonna be on the verge of suicide a year from now, when Donald J Trump is elected to another 4 year term. Can't wait for the meltdowns to begin again.
I am just speaking to you in the tone you need to understand and follow along.
I am exceptionally well adjusted.
If you should decide to kill your own self-important ass, so be it. I will neither cry nor applaud over the result.
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https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/05/us/politics/biden-trump-2024-poll.html Another left-wing poll has Trump cleaning Biden's clock in the swing states.
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What a great second term Trump will be sitting in some prison with a 300 pound lifer sticking his 10” dick up his ass.
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He wins in jail and pardons himself. He is entitled to secret service agents as well so he cannot stay in jail. In Georgia, pardoning himself will have to go to the Supreme Court because they seem to have different laws there for whatever reason.
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You are truly dreaming
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Wait and see. 2024 will produce politics the likes no American has EVER seen, and through all the chaos, Biden will be history and most likely Trump will return to the White House. 12 months away and counting for the election but the political frolics has begun with this first NYC trial.
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(https://assets1.cbsnewsstatic.com/hub/i/2023/11/04/691bafc3-7b6c-40ae-9ad6-be58a997b4e8/finances-biden-trump.png?v=c81a9d6c51e6280f2f4f876031d7d9bc) LEFT-wing CBS poll now.
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Goin to contribute MEEESSES 5 cents,that makes sense. Back to original post.
So TIMMY BOY DOOCY the agitor asks BIDEN and BIDEN went up to explain.
TIMMY asks BIDEN what you think about you losin in polls to TRUMP. And BIDEN goes: That nice ain't it. You use 2 polls that are REBUGS. NEW YORK TIMES and CNN. BIDEN says there 10 polls out there and I lead in 8 and you goofs only report those 2. And TIMMY BOY has to admit,JOEY BOY is correct. Hey TRUMP LOVERS. Never let the facks get in way of your LYIN FUC LOVE for the DRAFT DODGIN POS . Did you see the FUC in HALLENDAL a couple nights ago. It amazing how far he removed from the MAGA NUTS behind him. It made to appear they directly behind him. Could not be farther from truth. And none of them pay any attention to what the 350lb HIPPO has to say. They just watch the large moniker in front of FAT SLOP and it amazin they can see it with that fat slop not blockin it and when it tells them to yell and cheer the RED NECKS respond. And then FAT BOY pumps his FISTS and does his GIRLY dance. And DRAFT DODGER just rambles on about absoultly NOTIN.
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I can assure you no one here thinks the New York Times and CNN are right wing poll sites! Hello.
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GLEN; Stick this were the sun don't shine.
CNN is leanin more right each and every day.
And your NEW YORK TIMES. You realize they ain't pollin the country. They only poll students at SIENA college in NEW YORK. LOL.
That a true dipiction of country.
You need to just watch MSNBC.
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Who gives a crap what these “wrong many times” poles say? Just look what happened in VA and Ohio this week. I don’t blame any politician for not believing most polls. If Biden is behind in a pole he says they don’t mean much. If Trump is behind in a poll he yells fake news. My opinion is forget all the poles and just vote who you think is the best candidate.
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Why vote they both suck. Only 5 states matter. John you and I live in Illinois our opinions don't matter and certainly won't in the next election. Move on to horseracing.
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Why vote they both suck. Only 5 states matter. John you and I live in Illinois our opinions don't matter and certainly won't in the next election. Move on to horseracing.
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OK GLEN,JOHN FRANK ARMY gonna try to explain everythin to you. Yooose younger and me gonna be 77 next month. You a family man and I'sss lived me whole life on the WILD SIDE. REfused to have kids after me experience in VIET. Did meet a young gorgeous women in me life and she divorvorced and had 2 young children. She could not wait for me to finish BACHOL'S degree. You would not understand any of this because You be a first time With wife couple.
(1) lets go on . ORIGINNALY we discussin on your last post. WHY VOTE. YOU in COOK,me in KANE.
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i find it surprizin that
kane has 2 of the largest cities in
illinois,AURORA and ELGIn and the county is REBUGLICAN. I will continue on next post
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Obviosly the lower class has no ambition to go outand vote.
Know I'm goin in depth. This guy a good friend of mine. Older but honest as SHIT. He be MIKE DE'STAFANO. His uncle be SAM"the MADMAN ST:DEstafano. KNOWN as the most notorios hitman torturar in CHICAGO HISTORY. As a matter of fack,he killed and tortured his brother that mike was named after. And MAD SAM trained TONY SPILLATRO. And TONY eventually took a double barrel shot gun and blew his head and arm off. Just sayin: Mike was at the time the only elected in KANE County as a DEMOCRATE to office. And that was KANE COUNTY OARd.
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So continuing.
ME and a BUD open up a dog standin VEGAS. IT CHICAGO FOOD. We buys a franchise license out of ELGIN.Illinois called BEEF VILLA. It 1980 and we got the only FAST FOOD CHICAGO in VEGAS. WE bought a WHAT-A-BURGER fast food joint that went out of business. NO MATTER we offerin different. So after we open about a month in walks TONY and 5 associates. They like CHICAGO style BEEF and dogs. They orders and eats. Then they order more to go. Thier bill was close to $170.00 and they gets up and walks out. The young girl server say's to me. JOHN they just walked out without payin. I say's to her: You not know who them peoples are, We let that go. 2 weeks later one of the henchmen comes in for order out. His bill is about $80.00 He tosses 3 hundreds and say's keerp the change. I got to know these individuals as I hung at STARDUST. Never personally met TONY,but I knew everyone else. And they knew I was gonna marry ANDREA. And they went. You do it at STARDUST and everythin free on us. I begginly declined. But I was still stuck some years later workin for them in ROSEMONT.
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Andrea and I finnaly got married in VEGAS by a ELVIS IMPERSONATOR in 1986 over the 4th of JULY. I say's lets go watch the rooftop fireworks at STARDUST. The thin was a total DUD. ALL fireworks never exploded. I' say's to ANDREA. TONY gonna be in trouble over this. We comes home 4 days later and he and brother were found dug up in a INDIANA cornfield.
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I agree Michelle Obama doesn’t need or desire a presidential run. However to say that Donald Trump would win a debate about anything with his third grade vocabulary is just utter nonsense. Without a teleprompter he can barely put more than a few simple words together without fumbling their meanings no less the true facts. Why do you think Trump doesn’t want to be part of any debate? It is not just because he owns a big lead vs other republicans. He knows the right debater would tear him apart.
Aounds like you’re talking about Biden not even able to read a teleprompter or put together a logical sentence without mumbling or looking puzzled. The guy is an idiot. Unfortunately it looks like I won’t be voting again next year if it’s Biden against trump either. That’s a damn shame.
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Good stories JF. I went to Vegas about a year ago, I barely recognized it from the 90's. Near the strip the prices of everything are super high, to get a 20 or 25 dollar buffet you have to drive about half hour out. Four drinks at the Ceasars Palace pool cost me $186.00 with tip. They include tip in bill. LOL Way younger crowd also. You would probably hardly recognize it anymore.
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GLEN; Stick this were the sun don't shine.
CNN is leanin more right each and every day.
And your NEW YORK TIMES. You realize they ain't pollin the country. They only poll students at SIENA college in NEW YORK. LOL.
That a true dipiction of country.
You need to just watch MSNBC.
The Siena poll was of 3,662 registered voters in Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Nevada, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin.
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A lot of people will require a lot of Prozac after the next election if things progress the way they are in this country.
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Michelle does not want to go near that job and have her past dissected by the campaigns. She gets millions now doing nothing and Barry, aka Barack, is running Biden's show now any way and destroying the country with open borders. Remember, in 2008 Barack said the wanted to 'TRANSFORM AMERICA' but could not get it down during his 8 years so he has Biden getting the blame now as he sits back and smiles from the shadows at his creation! She cannot handle Putin nor terrorists, nor North Korea and Iran, etc. She is a nobody on the world stage in policy debate!
He transformed America alright. He pretty much infiltrated our federal agencies with corrupt leadership. Michelle for president...well looking at the people that Biden has appointed i would not be surprised. It's not about selecting the most qualified people anymore, it's about filling quotas. Soros is the one with the money controlling the media and the democrats. He has evil intentions and hates the United States and our form of government. He and the liberals want to make this country a socialist society.
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The Soros money supports every major democratic candidate , but the republicans have their billionaire donors also.
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"NY Times" Pollster: Donald Trump Seen as the Return to Normalcy Candidate
Voters perceive former President Donald Trump as the return to normalcy candidate after President Joe Biden failed to “put things back in order,” pollster and New York Times columnist Kristen Soltis Anderson recently wrote.
Anderson’s observation highlights Biden’s failure to restore America to a state of predictable stability following three years of his chaotic policies:
– Draconian pandemic mandates
– Deadly Afghan withdrawal
– Soaring cost of living
– Growing instability in Ukraine and the Middle East
– Record high invasion on the southern border
“The 2024 election will not be fought along the conventional axis of left and right or even change and more of the same,” Anderson wrote in the Times. “Voters very much want change; they have made that clear with the absolutely abominable ratings they give our leadership in poll after poll.