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Harness Racing / Re: Meadowlands race 14
« Last post by Papillon on Today at 02:10:18 PM »
The McCarthy brothers are sketchy at best. Not just that race, so many races one of them will be a huge fav and a standout and somehow get a bad trip but rally late to finish 2nd to the other McCarthy who was a much better price. They don't hide it after the race either, you see them talking and smiling right after the wire. I also think they tell Jessica Otten, as she always seems to nail her price play and it is almost always on a McCarthy horse. Even if it isn't true, it is such a bad look.

they do exactly as you say at Mohawk also
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You’re a smart guy Mike most of them are too stupid to realize that.

you are both stupid it is 18 percent over Bidens term not annually.  It was 1.4 percent under Obama and you hated him too. 
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Tell me 5 things Biden has done for you without mentioning Trump

1)Bipartisan Infrastructure bill...spending billions to upgrade bridges, water electrical grid. you know the one Trump never did.
2)Chips and Science act to build computer chips in the USA
3) Dow at 40000
4) Supports Ukraine,Israel, Taiwan and Nato . Not Putin
5) Student debt forgiveness
6) Bipartisan gun law after Uvalde murders
7) getting rid of and currently getting rid pf junk fees to airlines and hotel bookings
8) Bipartisan Electoral count act to require electors to pick the slat of candidates for the person who won the election, not the guy he said he won but lost
9) spending billions to bring internet to trural areas

Easy enough. 
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Harness Racing / Re: Meadowlands race 14
« Last post by PucksnHorses on Today at 01:56:57 PM »
The McCarthy brothers are sketchy at best. Not just that race, so many races one of them will be a huge fav and a standout and somehow get a bad trip but rally late to finish 2nd to the other McCarthy who was a much better price. They don't hide it after the race either, you see them talking and smiling right after the wire. I also think they tell Jessica Otten, as she always seems to nail her price play and it is almost always on a McCarthy horse. Even if it isn't true, it is such a bad look.
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Harness Racing / Re: Meadowlands race 14
« Last post by pocketrocketwinner on Today at 01:43:37 PM »
whoever is doing it--they are receiving a massive rebate..so getting $2.10 to win on horses like Karl are palatable

they receive more on the rebate than the 5% to win

explains why you see so many $2.10 to win payoffs these days--it wasnt like this 25 or more years ago

Yes. I believe the rebate is large in this situation and then it would make most sense that it is coming from the host site (meadowlands themselves) as they could afford the highest rebate.
Most concerning was one brother grabbing in HARD to allow the other brother an easy release.
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Harness Racing / Re: Meadowlands race 14
« Last post by Papillon on Today at 01:33:53 PM »
The large wagers started at the meadowlands this year on obvious favorites. Some have lost but vast majority have won. The money does come in as typical CAW money does but this is different. Whoever is doing this is not betting like a CAW. It's almost always win money (last night there was no exacta money or tri or super) and it's always crushing their own odds down below an acceptable price.

whoever is doing it--they are receiving a massive rebate..so getting $2.10 to win on horses like Karl are palatable

they receive more on the rebate than the 5% to win

explains why you see so many $2.10 to win payoffs these days--it wasnt like this 25 or more years ago
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Harness Racing / Re: Meadowlands race 14
« Last post by pocketrocketwinner on Today at 01:15:40 PM »
The large wagers started at the meadowlands this year on obvious favorites. Some have lost but vast majority have won. The money does come in as typical CAW money does but this is different. Whoever is doing this is not betting like a CAW. It's almost always win money (last night there was no exacta money or tri or super) and it's always crushing their own odds down below an acceptable price.
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Harness Racing / total stranger
« Last post by macdaddi on Today at 01:09:51 PM »
again 149 today  he is going to have to rate better or come from off the helmet as he raises in class he looked better today than last week he had something left in the tank today, last week he was spent
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Harness Racing / Re: Meadowlands race 14
« Last post by Papillon on Today at 01:02:50 PM »
It has been going on all year. Very large win bets late on favorites at last flash.

This one has gone too far. The Mccarthy brothers made it super obvious on the backside that something g was up. Very Very bad

all of those favorites had their nose on the gate then blasted out....if they break or lag behind the gate-their odds go up

no coincidence

if they


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Harness Racing / Re: Meadowlands race 14
« Last post by pocketrocketwinner on Today at 12:57:33 PM »
Bet $30K to win $6K?? However, the McCarthy exacta was a healthy number.  Looked like Gilmour and Webster reborn.

It has been going on all year. Very large win bets late on favorites at last flash.

This one has gone too far. The Mccarthy brothers made it super obvious on the backside that something g was up. Very Very bad
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