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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: LUCPARK on May 07, 2023, 09:24:38 PM
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: or 4 yrs ago
This would have been a non topic
Just like repole snd pletcher said
I agree
Kentucky commissioner over stepped here
Jmho
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: or 4 yrs ago
This would have been a non topic
Just like repole snd pletcher said
I agree
Kentucky commissioner over stepped here
Jmho
Pletcher is a cheat, accepted an Eclipse award while under suspension for well guess lol, but I don't think he's stupid, I believe he felt his horse was sound. I believe based on what was said it was a coin toss and spin of the wheel on track vets and they lost with this one. Just like court judges one leans this...one leans that way. Deaths, Kentucky went with the narrative of we care lmao!
I think Forte earned a very decent standing fee without ever having to race again, as Trevor Denman says "poetry in motion", 2, 3 yo monster, he heals up (bruised hoof), maybe we'll see him in 2 weeks! tmbz1
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So, was it the commission who scratch him or the trainer?
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So, was it the commission who scratch him or the trainer?
"Veterinarians from the Kentucky Horse Racing Commission." tmbz1
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Foot bruise few yrs ago would have been a non issue
With commissions
Now it’s a blow up doll
I think Kentucky commission is out to punish every big time trainer when ever possible
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The tractor drivers usually know more about horses than a state vet.
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Foot bruise few yrs ago would have been a non issue
With commissions
Now it’s a blow up doll
I think Kentucky commission is out to punish every big time trainer when ever possible
Big trainers, light envelopes. Easy fix! ;D
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The tractor drivers usually know more about horses than a state vet.
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sore foot, not buying it
a good blacksmith would have that horse running with no issues
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tmbz1*************MAJOR CONSPIRACY THEORY*************tmbz1
I'm going to throw a theory out here and I expect, I might catch hell, and that's ok, because I believe it is a fact.
Especially after all the Fed heat, Bob Baffert issues, he'll never admit it, but Todd Pletcher secretly does not want to win another Kentucky Derby and only the Kentucky Derby. The attention it brings like no other race is astronomical and he's just not a clean dude with a clean barn, and the statue of limitations hasn't run out on all his bullshit.
Most successful trainer in history, he's won just about every big race including 2 KYD's, suspended previously but managed to avoid major career ending, life altering heat.
He has also built a post racing breeding empire, set for life, only can lose nothing more to gain, I believe the 1 race he's afraid of is the Kentucky Derby, even if his horses running there are clean because his operation isn't and hasn't been! ;D
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NBC cam backstretch showed horse wincing when his hoof was touched by vet. It looked like real issue.
Stepped on wednesday stone.
Yes conspiracies most times..not here.
High end T'breds under such a micropscope these days, gotta air on caution side at that moment.
Game we know and love teetering in many corners..one big incident in that race could have doomed it considering 7 deaths there in 10 days.
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Anyone take a look at this guy dinkadoo's possible involvement? Only horse that could have beaten mage very suddenly disappears out of race and Mage destroys field. Follow the $. Rumors are dink had placed big futures bet on mage and has powerful friends! And, what do we know about him? Nobody seen Dutrow in while. Could dink be dutrow beard?
Should be investigated. A good guy to head investigation would be saffie j. He already investigating; and seems like an able guy to get to real facts.
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Anyone take a look at this guy dinkadoo's possible involvement? Only horse that could have beaten mage very suddenly disappears out of race and Mage destroys field. Follow the $. Rumors are dink had placed big futures bet on mage and has powerful friends! And, what do we know about him? Nobody seen Dutrow in while. Could dink be dutrow beard?
Should be investigated. A good guy to head investigation would be saffie j. He already investigating; and seems like an able guy to get to real facts.
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We'll be taking a hard look at this in-house, no need for msm involvement tmbz1.
Excellent points, your initial findings are correct The Dink has powerful friends however like the horse they're fractional too only a 0.00004 commitment to the friendship.
The Dink & Mage, and later on Bob Baffert joined in and they were seen at Louisville's Blue Diamond Gentlemen's Club late Derby night drinking champagne and snorting (BB's Coke) lines off of strippers. Turns out Baffert has been Dutrow's beard the whole time!
Therein the rats nest on Saffie J. detective's dome there is a 99.99996 of clues.
It's starting to add up!
It's said those that commit crimes, can't help returning to the scene, and I'm just saying you, HD, you were having a very rough week to the point it even inspired me to say "whose cock do you have to suck to get a winner?"......then 5 POOOOF vanish before the race, and you backed Mage too....hmmmm lol.
When asked about The Dink's future bet by another member he quoted it with my congratulatory post not the original asker (The Thorn), was that error or is The Dink mounting an incompetence defense?! ;D
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I’m not a kid and I’m a lifetime .387 udrs trainer and the horse looked fine to me on the trot off?
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Imagine how scary it'll be when HISA steps in to control racing integrity.!! Complete chaos at large.
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Imagine how scary it'll be when HISA steps in to control racing integrity.!! Complete chaos at large.
Absolute shit show. They’ll be scratching left and right. Not to mention they want to know your whole training and shoeing regimen.
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Absolute shit show. They’ll be scratching left and right. Not to mention they want to know your whole training and shoeing regimen.
Sounds like some fucked up micromanaging, and we're not pussy's for throwing a HISA fit!! 73cv.2
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Yeah, they went overboard. Repole and Pletcher got a big helping of "southern hospitality" and got fucked.
Do you think if Forte was a Claiborne horse he gets scratched? But he's not... he's owned by a loudmouth, new money guy from Brooklyn.
And no way Pletcher runs a lame horse. No way. Plus Bramlage -- Pletcher's vet -- and the best there is would never risk his reputation doing so.
jmvhmfo
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This is CDI's week and I guarantee you they did not let one horse race that was not 100%. They did not want one incident. This horse bobbled during his previous work (it was caught on video) and I guess we know why now. Back in the bad old days the standard was racing sound; today with internet and videos everywhere you are not going to take a chance if you are CDI during Derby week.
Which makes those seven deaths even more shocking.
PS Saffie Joseph's goose may be cooked. Having two horses consecutively drop dead would even make Surick blush.
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This is CDI's week and I guarantee you they did not let one horse race that was not 100%. They did not want one incident. This horse bobbled during his previous work (it was caught on video) and I guess we know why now. Back in the bad old days the standard was racing sound; today with internet and videos everywhere you are not going to take a chance if you are CDI during Derby week.
Which makes those seven deaths even more shocking.
PS Saffie Joseph's goose may be cooked. Having two horses consecutively drop dead would even make Surick blush.
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This is a great post, you'll never see in the media said so well, concise and hard to digest true - the perception you need; ending with the dagger in the vampire's heart. Mic drop...and goodnight!
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And now we come to find out that Forte failed a drug test back in September of last year after his Hopeful Win.
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And now we come to find out that Forte failed a drug test back in September of last year after his Hopeful Win.
tmbz1 tmbz1 tmbz1 You're Awesome VILLAGE!!! tmbz1 tmbz1 tmbz1
Brother Village's BREAKING NEWS!!!
https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/articles/268535/report-forte-failed-drug-test-after-2022-hopeful
How very interesting, and the #9 post in this thread of my conspiracy theory why Pletcher secretly didn't want FORTE to run muchless win! - I guess that conspiracy has now aged very well! If fertile, and he makes it to stud this could make his initial stud fee PLUMMET too!!! Very nice work Village! ;D
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So, Forte had an overage for Meloxicam, a standard theraputic.
I just fucking hate this shit. The ones who ratted out Pletcher are the old money Jockey Guild guys from Kentucky ... think Phipps, Janney, Shug, etc.... One or more of these guys sits on the New York Racing Board and knew about the positive after the Hopeful.
The postiive test was still under appeal (8 months later ... WTF?? but that's a different issue)... so, they get denied their due process and Pletcher gets lumped into the "Cheater" category w Baffert, Ness, Saffie and George Santos.
The Kentucky old $$ guys are the main backers of HISA (good for them) and with all the shit at Churchill last week they got fed up and fed Drape/NYTimes the story.
What makes it all even more insidious is that one of Forte's owners Vinny Viola is a member of the Jockey Racing board. All very incestuous.
Why does it matter? It matters because Forte - bought for $110,000 -- is already a 4x Grade 1 winner and a Classic win would , I am told, increase his stud value from $10Mil to $15Mil (I'm no expert on the values but believe my friend who is a bloodstock agent).
Now his value is in question. A lot of fucking money at stake.
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So, Forte had an overage for Meloxicam, a standard theraputic.
I just fucking hate this shit. The ones who ratted out Pletcher are the old money Jockey Guild guys from Kentucky ... think Phipps, Janney, Shug, etc.... One or more of these guys sits on the New York Racing Board and knew about the positive after the Hopeful.
The postiive test was still under appeal (8 months later ... WTF?? but that's a different issue)... so, they get denied their due process and Pletcher gets lumped into the "Cheater" category w Baffert, Ness, Saffie and George Santos.
The Kentucky old $$ guys are the main backers of HISA (good for them) and with all the shit at Churchill last week they got fed up and fed Drape/NYTimes the story.
What makes it all even more insidious is that one of Forte's owners Vinny Viola is a member of the Jockey Racing board. All very incestuous.
Why does it matter? It matters because Forte - bought for $110,000 -- is already a 4x Grade 1 winner and a Classic win would , I am told, increase his stud value from $10Mil to $15Mil (I'm no expert on the values but believe my friend who is a bloodstock agent).
Now his value is in question. A lot of fucking money at stake.
Dude needs to follow the rules, forget about murder - the high crimes, even the smallest infraction like for the rest of us - jaywalking.
Too late, he made his money, built a post racing empire, now it's time to vanish forever and let the statute of limitations run out and he'll skate for it all. Otherwise who knows what his future holds, hard to keep partnerships going, and train from prison...
You're right it is horrible and consequential for the owner, and been a BILLION times more for us BETTORS, and NEVER FUCKING ENDS! We are raging angry, even at the FBI, DOJ, they needed and need to do MORE! tmbz1
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I try to factor corruption into handicapping, who, cycles, it's really impossible. This is what the FBI and DOJ does and HAS NOT been doing in RACING as a DETERRENT and a PREVENTIVE!
The FEDS get their leads from a site like Horseplop from our thoughtful contributions, whoever else, and their own radar.
They're called TARGET LETTERS, you receive one and your big dick retracts into your body and your low hanging balls shrivel to a new born baby - and you STOP the bullshit, forever unless you're retarded! ;D
https://www.burnhamgorokhov.com/criminal-defense-resources/federal-criminal-process/target-letters-from-federal-law-enforcement
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Well Pletcher just got suspended (for a whole 10 days... Whoopee) and fined for Forte's positive test last year. What kind of deterrent is that???
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Well Pletcher just got suspended (for a whole 10 days... Whoopee) and fined for Forte's positive test last year. What kind of deterrent is that???
Don't U worry we'll be launching a Todd Pletcher thread with direct contacts to his stable and be reporting live, the Pimlico racing secretary who I was seeking out her identity yesterday, and investigative sports journalists....we're gonna have a weenie roast with toddy scumhole! ;D