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Title: STOP BUYING HORSES FROM BAD GUYS
Post by: spaman on April 03, 2020, 08:20:21 PM
 THEY DRUGGED THEIR HORSES AND STOLE OUR MONEY. WHY WOULD ANYONE IN THEIR RIGHT MIND BUY A HORSE FROM THESE GUYS. LET EM SUFFER FOR THEIR BEHAVIOR. DON'T HELP THEM PAY THEIR LAWYERS. OWNERS HELPING BAD GUYS. WTF?
Title: Re: STOP BUYING HORSES FROM BAD GUYS
Post by: bigwrench on April 03, 2020, 08:38:23 PM
Who?
Title: Re: STOP BUYING HORSES FROM BAD GUYS
Post by: LUCPARK on April 03, 2020, 09:15:20 PM
who?

 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: STOP BUYING HORSES FROM BAD GUYS
Post by: Jazzman on April 03, 2020, 09:35:22 PM
why does the usta allow transfers when these people are suspended
Title: Re: STOP BUYING HORSES FROM BAD GUYS
Post by: Stan durbread on April 04, 2020, 07:15:30 AM
The buyers should be next on indictment list. They obviously think they have better undetectable drugs. Why would any trainer take horses that came from these trainers? If you improve or keep same form you are putting a bullseye on your back. More than likely the horses are going to crash during shut down then what do you do with them? The owners will try to search out trainers that can drug them up again
Title: Re: STOP BUYING HORSES FROM BAD GUYS
Post by: the master on April 04, 2020, 10:11:38 AM
Must have some deep pockets! I thought these horses were unable to race for 90 days after the resumption of racing whenever that is!
Title: Re: STOP BUYING HORSES FROM BAD GUYS
Post by: jupiter on April 04, 2020, 11:57:34 AM
Will they even own them when all is said and done. When the IRS gets involved it will be ugly, they also have a forfeiture issue to deal with..Also why would anyone bail out these assholes, that stole money from all horseman.
Title: Re: STOP BUYING HORSES FROM BAD GUYS
Post by: cr dawg on April 04, 2020, 12:39:35 PM
Will they even own them when all is said and done. When the IRS gets involved it will be ugly, they also have a forfeiture issue to deal with..Also why would anyone bail out these assholes, that stole money from all horseman.

Do you think they didn't help numerous other horsemen, meanwhile fucking the betting public and cashing tickets to boot?
Title: Re: STOP BUYING HORSES FROM BAD GUYS
Post by: Mazola on April 04, 2020, 02:59:29 PM
Do you think they didn't help numerous other horsemen, meanwhile fucking the betting public and cashing tickets to boot?
Absolutely agree 11.wp tmbz1 tmbz1
Title: Re: STOP BUYING HORSES FROM BAD GUYS
Post by: joe navy on April 06, 2020, 09:40:59 AM
yes i have a friend that bought a horse off Allard he told me its going to cost him another 10 to 12 thousand after he paid over 30 grand for the horse!!!! 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp
Title: Re: STOP BUYING HORSES FROM BAD GUYS
Post by: Locked in with pace on April 06, 2020, 10:12:24 AM
extra $10,000 or $12,000 for what? He obviously knew who the previous trainer was. Doesn't make sense
Title: Re: STOP BUYING HORSES FROM BAD GUYS
Post by: Dingus on April 06, 2020, 10:58:04 AM
extra $10,000 or $12,000 for what? He obviously knew who the previous trainer was. Doesn't make sense

For detox
Title: Re: STOP BUYING HORSES FROM BAD GUYS
Post by: joe navy on April 06, 2020, 12:08:21 PM
just got a little tidbit of news tracks are not going to accept any horses for 60 days and need to pass drug test that owner has to pay for tmbz1
Title: Re: STOP BUYING HORSES FROM BAD GUYS
Post by: Carnival People on April 07, 2020, 11:08:53 AM
For detox

Detox?   You mean he is going to spend $12,000 to turn a horse out for 3 months.  No such thing as detox and any vets who are selling this snake oil pitch should be investigated. 
Title: Re: STOP BUYING HORSES FROM BAD GUYS
Post by: Dingus on April 07, 2020, 06:06:51 PM
Detox?   You mean he is going to spend $12,000 to turn a horse out for 3 months.  No such thing as detox and any vets who are selling this snake oil pitch should be investigated.

Detox, as in 1st Turn the horse out for several months and then 3 months of training will cost how much?
Title: Re: STOP BUYING HORSES FROM BAD GUYS
Post by: PA PETE on April 08, 2020, 11:53:00 AM
I have seen everyone else selling  . What about those 2 ?
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Post by: The Exporter on April 08, 2020, 12:03:05 PM
I would guess, Dane's horses would go back to Illinois.
Title: Re: STOP BUYING HORSES FROM BAD GUYS
Post by: PA PETE on April 08, 2020, 12:07:19 PM
Did Illinois say how long they have to sit out?
Title: Re: STOP BUYING HORSES FROM BAD GUYS
Post by: jupiter on April 08, 2020, 12:36:10 PM
Maybe the owners will finally have to pay a price, it´s about time! Stop them from racing for 60 or 90 days.
Title: Re: STOP BUYING HORSES FROM BAD GUYS
Post by: LUCPARK on April 08, 2020, 12:44:46 PM
Buying any of these horses from anyone of guys indicted is mindless

7
60 to 90 days quarantined

Plus plus.   

Math doesn’t add up to even breaking even

Plus scrutiny from race tracks and race sec.

Ain’t with the gamble

I almost bought BEACH BOOGIE.  from Rene 

Nice colt.

But headaches just ain’t worth it

Title: Re: STOP BUYING HORSES FROM BAD GUYS
Post by: jupiter on April 08, 2020, 12:56:50 PM
Agree, to many possible headaches to purchase from them. Even the horses that are not owned by the trainers themselves, if they were trained by the offending individuals they will have to sit out for 60 to 90 days. Hopefully it will hit the owners in the pocket and they will quit using scumbags.
Title: Re: STOP BUYING HORSES FROM BAD GUYS
Post by: Foalin at 4 on April 08, 2020, 10:39:38 PM
Does Jeff have a list of all the horses trained by these scumbags. I hope someone does, I thought about buying a horse who was trained but hadn't started for the scumbag. Would he have to sit out at Jeffs tracks? Is it horses who have been trained, or horses who have started for the scumbag. I finally said f**k it , I'm not gonna support the scumbag, only to find out the scumbags other scumbag (The pos other registered owner) bought him back. What a joke these paper , name changing, scumbags are. 
Title: Re: STOP BUYING HORSES FROM BAD GUYS
Post by: dukeman on April 09, 2020, 08:56:31 AM
HOW MANY OF ALLARD'S AND BANCA'S HAS WEAVER BRUSCEMI SNATCHED UP?
Title: Re: STOP BUYING HORSES FROM BAD GUYS
Post by: Locked in with pace on April 09, 2020, 09:46:31 AM
Haven't seen Burke's owners buying any.
Title: Re: STOP BUYING HORSES FROM BAD GUYS
Post by: bangbang553 on April 09, 2020, 09:51:00 AM
i haven't  seen any of nickys online yet there were a few in his name and quite a few had tonianne partners with others  anyone know how many left the barn yet
Title: Re: STOP BUYING HORSES FROM BAD GUYS
Post by: The Exporter on April 09, 2020, 10:38:53 AM
Maybe he just killed them.
Title: Re: STOP BUYING HORSES FROM BAD GUYS
Post by: Manny on April 09, 2020, 11:00:04 AM
Chris Oakes, scumbug of the last decade.  Walking around like he is someone special, posting on social media, getting horses from old guys like William Cass then filling them with PEDS.  Rot in hell you scumbag.  Same for the others. 
Title: Re: STOP BUYING HORSES FROM BAD GUYS
Post by: Seamus11 on April 09, 2020, 01:51:28 PM
Tough times out there for sure... wondering if anyone has heard of somebody that might be having difficulties  and possibly looking to sell off a few.  Preferably in the Northeast...
Title: Re: STOP BUYING HORSES FROM BAD GUYS
Post by: cigar on April 09, 2020, 02:17:36 PM
Tough times out there for sure... wondering if anyone has heard of somebody that might be having difficulties  and possibly looking to sell off a few.  Preferably in the Northeast...
Let’s rephrase what your saying
Anyone hurting for cash I Seamus is looking to steal one from you cheap.
Yea I got a 4 claimer looking for 10k hurting bad help me out, Santa clause.
Title: Re: STOP BUYING HORSES FROM BAD GUYS
Post by: Harness Stats on April 09, 2020, 02:45:03 PM
Sounds more like a week late April Fools post. 

No trainers in the Northeast are having difficulties and reducing or selling off their stock  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: STOP BUYING HORSES FROM BAD GUYS
Post by: Trottin kid on April 09, 2020, 03:04:25 PM
Names!!! luc
Title: Re: STOP BUYING HORSES FROM BAD GUYS
Post by: cigar on April 09, 2020, 03:05:48 PM
Larry
Moe
Curly
Title: Re: STOP BUYING HORSES FROM BAD GUYS
Post by: LUCPARK on April 09, 2020, 03:07:05 PM
Names!!! luc

its not to hard to follow

if you know which trainers used

which vets  ,

,unheard of  no name trainers  became over nights sensation last 2 yrs

not hard to follow,, ngc3 ngc3 ngc3

too easy
Title: Re: STOP BUYING HORSES FROM BAD GUYS
Post by: Fatboy on April 09, 2020, 03:23:41 PM
Amish gonna have some nice stock.
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Post by: SportsmansP5/8 on April 09, 2020, 03:24:24 PM
Maybe if you have to ask those questions about buying on a board like this maybe you shouldn't!!!!  Do your own research set your own price have a personal vet an a personal trainer help you out!!!! Only way to buy had a horse they wanted 35k for in early 80’s ran 2times in usa had big wins trained very well had them van them over to my barn and have my vet check him out and found out horses feet had bad problems and back leg was barely holding up!!! So always trust your own people in a nasty business like this I've had show horses race horses tennessee walkers been around them my whole life even my eye couldn't and could never pick that up

Good luck
Title: Re: STOP BUYING HORSES FROM BAD GUYS
Post by: Fatboy on April 09, 2020, 03:30:40 PM
Maybe if you have to ask those questions about buying on a board like this maybe you shouldn't!!!!  Do your own research set your own price have a personal vet an a personal trainer help you out!!!! Only way to buy had a horse they wanted 35k for in early 80’s ran 2times in usa had big wins trained very well had them van them over to my barn and have my vet check him out and found out horses feet had bad problems and back leg was barely holding up!!! So always trust your own people in a nasty business like this I've had show horses race horses tennessee walkers been around them my whole life even my eye couldn't and could never pick that up

Good luck

  Best advice ever on this subject. tmbz1
Title: Re: STOP BUYING HORSES FROM BAD GUYS
Post by: LUCPARK on April 09, 2020, 03:37:36 PM
Amish gonna have some nice stock.

pennies on the dollar tmbz1
Title: Re: STOP BUYING HORSES FROM BAD GUYS
Post by: Trottin kid on April 09, 2020, 03:39:07 PM
Cmon luc if its so easy why dont u back it up with names solomon
Title: Re: STOP BUYING HORSES FROM BAD GUYS
Post by: LUCPARK on April 09, 2020, 03:42:08 PM
Cmon luc if its so easy why dont u back it up with names solomon

,,QUIET,,HUSH UP,

,,NEW WAVE OF INDICTMENTS COMES BEFORE FATHERS DAY



INFO IS SOLID
Title: Re: STOP BUYING HORSES FROM BAD GUYS
Post by: Fatboy on April 09, 2020, 03:47:17 PM
,,QUIET,,HUSH UP,

,,NEW WAVE OF INDICTMENTS COMES BEFORE FATHERS DAY



INFO IS SOLID

that should keep the kid quiet?
Title: Re: STOP BUYING HORSES FROM BAD GUYS
Post by: Trottin kid on April 09, 2020, 03:58:01 PM
Ha ha never seen a girl like luc that talks outta both sides her mouth lol
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