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Title: DANGLE THEN DEKE
Post by: MR.DALRAE on July 12, 2016, 05:55:19 PM
CONGRATS TO HORSES FIRST
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Post by: MR.DALRAE on July 12, 2016, 05:56:36 PM
GOOD LOOKING CANTAB,,,,VERY GOOD MECHANICS....EZ SCORE IN 57.3
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Post by: MR.DALRAE on July 12, 2016, 05:57:26 PM
VERY LOW HEAD,,,THOUGHT IT WAS A MACINTOSH STUDENT AT FIRST
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Post by: LUCPARK on July 12, 2016, 06:08:42 PM
Nice horse.. congrats JIMMY  tmbz1
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Post by: Harness Racing King on July 12, 2016, 06:35:33 PM
CONGRATS TO HORSES FIRST
Nice a plopped owns!

I cashed! tmbz1
Title: Re: DANGLE THEN DEKE
Post by: horses first on July 12, 2016, 07:01:29 PM
Thanks Joe.  She has been nice from day one.  Her size at the sale was able to let me in.  She has a very very good pedigree and I'm lucky to have her.  Her gait knock on wood is flawless and Tim has drove her to perfection her first two starts.  Fingers are crossed.  John B had a monster today.
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Post by: horses first on July 12, 2016, 07:02:32 PM
Can't remember if your a hockey fan Joe.  Have another at Poke qualifying tomorrow.  Blue line sniper.
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Post by: VINTNER on July 12, 2016, 07:04:20 PM
Congrats, very nice animal
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Post by: horses first on July 12, 2016, 07:29:18 PM
Thanks all!
Title: Re: DANGLE THEN DEKE
Post by: Harness Racing King on July 12, 2016, 07:54:40 PM
Congrats- 2 yo filly trotter in 1:57:3 is promising this time of year.
knot like your rats Larry!
Title: Re: DANGLE THEN DEKE
Post by: horses first on July 12, 2016, 07:58:56 PM
I've had my share of good and bad IL breds.  Good to see a friend of mine that owns Unlocked a IL bred who has made 100k racing in the open at the Meadows.  It's a tough game and give any owner kudos for sticking with it.  Just couldn't take the politics of owning in Il, the previous track owners, and the group that represents horsemen.  I do miss going to the track to see my horses race.
Title: Re: DANGLE THEN DEKE
Post by: MR.DALRAE on July 12, 2016, 11:58:47 PM
Thanks Joe.  She has been nice from day one.  Her size at the sale was able to let me in.  She has a very very good pedigree and I'm lucky to have her.  Her gait knock on wood is flawless and Tim has drove her to perfection her first two starts.  Fingers are crossed.  John B had a monster today.

JOHN Bs,,,,IS MORE EXPIERIANCED THAN YOURS,,,,,,,,,YOUR FILLY HAS A MUCH MORE GAIT,,,B0UT TIME WILL TELL,,,,,ILL LOOK FOR YOURS TOM AT PO0CONO
Title: Re: DANGLE THEN DEKE
Post by: steve g on July 13, 2016, 04:22:19 AM
knot like your rats Larry!

How is the imaginary stables doing ?
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Post by: Harness Racing King on July 13, 2016, 05:58:11 AM
How is the imaginary stables doing ?
Thanks for asking Steve one stable has a few racing Sat at the meds and yonkers

The other stable is at Saratoga Vernon and poc this weekend

Needless to say I'm busy

Why u ask?

Need help?
Title: Re: DANGLE THEN DEKE
Post by: PIGLAND on July 13, 2016, 07:59:53 AM
Thanks for asking Steve one stable has a few racing Sat at the meds and yonkers

The other stable is at Saratoga Vernon and poc this weekend

Needless to say I'm busy

Why u ask?

Need help?
tmbz1
Title: Re: DANGLE THEN DEKE
Post by: Harness Racing King on July 13, 2016, 08:19:26 AM
tmbz1
Wish we all had as much free time is Steve G

People like yourself and I Pig are busy!

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Post by: PIGLAND on July 13, 2016, 08:20:15 AM
Wish we all had as much free time is Steve G

People like yourself and I Pig are busy!


FREE BA HAD TOO MUCH MERLOT LAST NIGHT
Title: Re: DANGLE THEN DEKE
Post by: Harness Racing King on July 13, 2016, 08:32:47 AM
FREE BA HAD TOO MUCH MERLOT LAST NIGHT
Way he was acting may of been Boone's Farm
Title: Re: DANGLE THEN DEKE
Post by: Harness Racing King on July 13, 2016, 10:04:43 AM
Don't be a dick please.     16za.ck 51za.brod
You found a spot for Rainman to sit
Title: Re: DANGLE THEN DEKE
Post by: MR.DALRAE on July 19, 2016, 11:46:52 PM
DANGLE WAS VERY GOOD AGAIN TONIGHT,,,,,,JUST A TRAINING TRIP,,,VERY IMPRESSIVE FINAL 1/8 ,,FOR FUN
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Post by: horses first on July 20, 2016, 12:16:01 AM
Thanks Joe that was a nice burst to propel her to the finish line.  Very happy with her.
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Post by: horses first on July 20, 2016, 12:19:15 AM
Also have a nice Dejarmbro filly Sawmill Road who put a nice 4th in Ohio sire stakes in 57.1 that saw a record break in 56.3.  Either of the three divisions she is tops but that's how the draw goes.  Expect to see her best days ahead. 
Title: Re: DANGLE THEN DEKE
Post by: LUCPARK on July 20, 2016, 02:32:16 AM
Also have a nice Dejarmbro filly Sawmill Road who put a nice 4th in Ohio sire stakes in 57.1 that saw a record break in 56.3.  Either of the three divisions she is tops but that's how the draw goes.  Expect to see her best days ahead. 
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Nice job jimmy.. tmbz1
Title: Re: DANGLE THEN DEKE
Post by: horses first on July 20, 2016, 07:05:17 AM
Thanks Roc!
Title: Re: DANGLE THEN DEKE
Post by: steve g on July 22, 2016, 04:16:53 AM
Wish we all had as much free time is Steve G

People like yourself and I Pig are busy!



Busy playing patty cake with each other ....you two idiots are on here all day rubbing each others ass.
Title: Re: DANGLE THEN DEKE
Post by: Harness Racing King on July 22, 2016, 07:55:15 AM
Busy playing patty cake with each other ....you two idiots are on here all day rubbing each others ass.
Thanks for your input Steve G! Only took you a week to respond.......... .

Tent Issues?
Title: Re: DANGLE THEN DEKE
Post by: MR.DALRAE on July 29, 2016, 05:46:10 PM
WAS AWESOME AGAIN TODAY,,,STAKES RECORD 55.1,,,,,ANOTHER TRAINING MILE

STILL LOOKS LIKE A MACINTOSH STUDENT WITH HIS HEAD THAT LOW
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Post by: MR.DALRAE on July 29, 2016, 05:46:54 PM
PLUS THE SNIPER WAS VERY GOOD ALSO TODAY,,,CONGRATS JIMMY
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Post by: LUCPARK on July 29, 2016, 05:49:55 PM
NICE HORSE VERY VERY NICE HORSE

CONGRATS  YOUNG JAMES tmbz1 tmbz1
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Post by: muletrain on July 29, 2016, 05:57:25 PM
WAS AWESOME AGAIN TODAY,,,STAKES RECORD 55.1,,,,,ANOTHER TRAINING MILE

STILL LOOKS LIKE A MACINTOSH STUDENT WITH HIS HEAD THAT LOW

Congrats....that is one nice filly. 
Title: Re: DANGLE THEN DEKE
Post by: LUCPARK on July 29, 2016, 05:58:33 PM
special filly as roger houston said,,

,,drew off,,under wraps,,and a stakes record,,

,,,great ,,U ALWAYS WANTED A GREAT TROTTER
SHE HAS ALL THE MAKINGS OF ONE,,

4FOR 4 THIS YR,,KEEP IT UP,,JIMMY tmbz1 tmbz1

MIKE WILDER PERFECT STEER tmbz1 tmbz1
Title: Re: DANGLE THEN DEKE
Post by: horses first on July 29, 2016, 07:22:47 PM
Thanks again guys.  Her first three races I said she hasn't scratched the surface.  Today was a scratch and she just went right on by and drew off.  Yes really excited just trying to take 1 race at a time.  Stake records are nice probably come in handy down the road.  Just getting to the wire first by a half L or more is good enough in my book.  I guess the word special can be tossed out just didn't want to be the first to day it.  Can't wait for Sep and Oct races so I can see in person.  Had to cancel my trip this week.
Title: Re: DANGLE THEN DEKE
Post by: RWB on August 11, 2016, 04:27:10 PM
Horse should have won easily today at 2/5....2 hole trip with easy fractions......Ya nnick put a wheel under this horse twice with Temple Ruins in the stretch....that's why he is the best driver in the game today
Title: Re: DANGLE THEN DEKE
Post by: horses first on August 11, 2016, 06:03:53 PM
Yes that 30.3 second quarter probably helped save her to the finish line.  Can't win them all and new she wouldn't win them all.  So any horse at 2/5 should win easily thanks great handicapping will have to remember that in the future. 
Title: Re: DANGLE THEN DEKE
Post by: RWB on August 11, 2016, 06:12:30 PM
Yes that 30.3 second quarter probably helped save her to the finish line.  Can't win them all and new she wouldn't win them all.  So any horse at 2/5 should win easily thanks great handicapping will have to remember that in the future. 

You misinterpreted what I was trying to say. The better horse did not win today.....and 2/5 shots lose all the time.  Twice as DTD gathered momentum to go by.... Yannick put a wheel under the horse....the 2nd time especially because DTD was going by Temple Ruins if he didn't....no disrespect to the horse.....just pointing out how good Yannick is
Title: Re: DANGLE THEN DEKE
Post by: ham sandwich on August 11, 2016, 06:25:57 PM
Horses first... I've been waiting a while to reply to this from a few years ago...

<<<February 16, 2014, 11:00:07 AM 

horses firs: can anyone name five trotters or even three that Burke has bought as a yearling and did really well.  I don't follow him enough to name one.  Yet he comes up with older trotters and makes them stars after they were average at best or showed back class.  Is he a real trainer, or just a hard worker, or a gas and go guy.  To me until you can train young trotters and make them stars and repeat that process over time then your a real trainer.>>>

I guess you found out today that he can develop one, not to mention Mission Brief and Southwind Frank.
Title: Re: DANGLE THEN DEKE
Post by: LUCPARK on August 11, 2016, 06:43:53 PM
Horses first... I've been waiting a while to reply to this from a few years ago...

<<<February 16, 2014, 11:00:07 AM  

horses firs: can anyone name five trotters or even three that Burke has bought as a yearling and did really well.  I don't follow him enough to name one.  Yet he comes up with older trotters and makes them stars after they were average at best or showed back class.  Is he a real trainer, or just a hard worker, or a gas and go guy.  To me until you can train young trotters and make them stars and repeat that process over time then your a real  U WAITRFtrainer.>>>

I guess you found out today that he can develop one, not to mention Mission Brief and Southwind Frank.


YOU FCKIN IDIOT JIMMY CAN BUY AND SELL YOUR FCKIN FAMILY U DICKHEAD WAITED this long the see one of hiz horses lose to post ..GET A FUCKIN LIFE FUCK FACE . HORSE LOST TODAY ..SO FUCK U and FUCK EVERYONE LIKE YOU.

Now COME beat my ASS H
A HOOSIER tomorrow..
I'm the guy in pink shorts and black versace shirt


Get a fuckin life FUCK FACE
Title: Re: DANGLE THEN DEKE
Post by: ham sandwich on August 11, 2016, 06:45:34 PM
YOU FCKIN IDIOT JIMMY CAN BUY AND SELL YOUR FCKIN FAMILY U DICKHEAD WAITED this long the see one of hiz horses lose to post ..GET A FUCKIN LIFE FUCK FACE . HORSE LOST TODAY ..SO FUCK U and FUCK EVERYONE LIKE YOU.

Now COME beat my ASS H
A HOOSIER tomorrow..
I'm the guy in pink shorts and black versace shirt


Get a fuckin life FUCK FACE

I'll be there.  I'll find you.
Title: Re: DANGLE THEN DEKE
Post by: LUCPARK on August 11, 2016, 06:51:53 PM
I'll be there.  I'll find you.

Bring it on FUCK FACE..FCKIN BUST OUT

I got a cleaning Lady tuffer than u

U waited so long to post that

U fckin scumbag loser
Title: Re: DANGLE THEN DEKE
Post by: horses first on August 11, 2016, 06:52:51 PM
Yes Yannick is very good no doubt and would never dispute that topic.  Ham Sandwich that is great and you named just a couple and there are more out there.  2.5 years ago Burke wasn't a huge presence at the sale as he has been the past two years.  However winning 20+ mln in purses will get u more horses to buy or owners giving u more young horses.  I don't need to win every race and when my horses try there best, come back sound, I'm happy.
Title: Re: DANGLE THEN DEKE
Post by: ham sandwich on August 11, 2016, 06:55:30 PM
Yes Yannick is very good no doubt and would never dispute that topic.  Ham Sandwich that is great and you named just a couple and there are more out there.  2.5 years ago Burke wasn't a huge presence at the sale as he has been the past two years.  However winning 20+ mln in purses will get u more horses to buy or owners giving u more young horses.  I don't need to win every race and when my horses try there best, come back sound, I'm happy.

 tmbz1

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Post by: horses first on August 11, 2016, 06:58:43 PM
Rocco I don't let people like that get to me.  I tend to give most people the benefit of the doubt.  If this guy has been thinking of this for 2.5 years and been waiting to post then WOW there are some issues going on there that may need professional help.  Like I said not worried about a Internet form poster.  I just hope he or she isn't one of those people that are a drag on society and actually put forth a good effort daily in life.
Title: Re: DANGLE THEN DEKE
Post by: ham sandwich on August 11, 2016, 07:00:11 PM
Bring it on FUCK FACE..FCKIN BUST OUT

I got a cleaning Lady tuffer than u

U waited so long to post that

U fckin scumbag loser

Luc, how will I find you?  Will you be on stilts?
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Post by: Calhoun on August 11, 2016, 07:02:59 PM
Bring it on FUCK FACE..FCKIN BUST OUT

I got a cleaning Lady tuffer than u

U waited so long to post that

U fckin scumbag loser
So what, a horse lost. You've said some shit yourself.  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOi9GQY5v2o
Title: Re: DANGLE THEN DEKE
Post by: ham sandwich on August 11, 2016, 07:13:51 PM
Rocco I don't let people like that get to me.  I tend to give most people the benefit of the doubt.  If this guy has been thinking of this for 2.5 years and been waiting to post then WOW there are some issues going on there that may need professional help.  Like I said not worried about a Internet form poster.  I just hope he or she isn't one of those people that are a drag on society and actually put forth a good effort daily in life.

No, No... You've run your mouth for a couple years.  I just figured now would be a good time to bring some of it up.

As far as me putting a good effort in each day, I get more done by Monday at 9am than you will all week.
Title: Re: DANGLE THEN DEKE
Post by: LUCPARK on August 11, 2016, 07:19:07 PM
Rocco I don't let people like that get to me.  I tend to give most people the benefit of the doubt.  If this guy has been thinking of this for 2.5 years and been waiting to post then WOW there are some issues going on there that may need professional help.  Like I said not worried about a Internet form poster.  I just hope he or she isn't one of those people that are a drag on society and actually put forth a good effort daily in life.


Jim what pisses me off the most is when people are happy to see a horse   lose just to piss on the owner..
But they don't know the work and money to get the horse to WHERE it is..
Title: Re: DANGLE THEN DEKE
Post by: ham sandwich on August 11, 2016, 07:20:38 PM

Jim what pisses me off the most is when people are happy to see a horse  ..just to piss on the owner..
But they don't know the work to get the horse to WHERE it is..

But it's ok when Jim runs his mouth?  Can't have it both ways Rocco.
Title: Re: DANGLE THEN DEKE
Post by: LUCPARK on August 11, 2016, 07:21:57 PM
But it's ok when Jim runs his mouth?  Can't have it both ways Rocco.

I've never seen jimmy ever run hiz mouth ever.

Hez a gentleman..
Title: Re: DANGLE THEN DEKE
Post by: ham sandwich on August 11, 2016, 07:22:43 PM
I've never seen jimmy ever run hiz mouth ever.

Hez a gentleman..


You should pay more attention.
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Post by: Calhoun on August 11, 2016, 07:23:35 PM


But they don't know the work and money to get the horse to WHERE it is..
That is just stupid.  

You and your friends have a secret book that says how much things cost?

Dumbass remark.  You should retract.
Title: Re: DANGLE THEN DEKE
Post by: ham sandwich on August 11, 2016, 07:27:21 PM
That is just stupid.  

You and your friends have a secret book that says how much things cost?

Dumbass remark.  You should retract.

 tmbz1

Like he's the only one that knows what it takes to get a horse to the races!
Title: Re: DANGLE THEN DEKE
Post by: Calhoun on August 11, 2016, 07:29:25 PM

Hez a gentleman..

Well, you are not.

You were fucking BEGGING for Mule's horse to go bad in that fair race, just fucking dying to give him the "I told you so" line.

Passive-Aggressive Bullshit. 
Title: Re: DANGLE THEN DEKE
Post by: Calhoun on August 11, 2016, 07:30:10 PM
tmbz1

Like he's the only one that knows what it takes to get a horse to the races!
You're a fucking idiot.
Title: Re: DANGLE THEN DEKE
Post by: ham sandwich on August 11, 2016, 07:33:54 PM
You're a fucking idiot.

So much for the fruit basket jagoff
Title: Re: DANGLE THEN DEKE
Post by: horses first on August 11, 2016, 08:13:00 PM
I run my mouth please.  I have wish for only a level playing field and integrity for this sport.  And please other then being a daily trader watching the markets, I rehab houses daily sometimes 2 at a time, try to enjoy some of my horses race live, and my toughest job after all that is raking my son to hockey 9.5 months a year and my daughter to her sporting events for school.  Which I enjoy the most since it is all innocent as talent prevails.  If u wish to discuss further in person with be at the Meadows next week in Pa, Jug week in Ohio, or Lex for the sale.  I can only say you must not know me to say you work harder on Monday by 9am then I do in a week.  By that statement I can only guess your not that real.
Title: Re: DANGLE THEN DEKE
Post by: horses first on August 11, 2016, 08:22:35 PM
By the way Ham if you have been waiting 2.5 years to say that, as a Burke horse beat me in a sire race, you have missed a couple of my horses loss to him, Takter, or some of the other trainers.  Just like every other owner out there.  By the way I think that thread you remember and reposted had more info or a follow up naming some very nice older trotters he turned.  Like I said Burke was into buying raceway horses before throwing  2-3mln into babies.  Now that he is buying 50 or more head a year Congrats he gets a few to be stars.  That's called having many eggs in a rather large basket.  But like I have said recently, the industry doesn't delve into the ones that never make it, so out of sight out of mind.  I better let you go your a busy person or already done for the week since it's past 9am Monday.
Title: Re: DANGLE THEN DEKE
Post by: Calhoun on August 11, 2016, 08:26:34 PM
By the way Ham if you have been waiting 2.5 years to say that, as a Burke horse beat me in a sire race, you have missed a couple of my horses loss to him, Takter, or some of the other trainers.  Just like every other owner out there.  By the way I think that thread you remember and reposted had more info or a follow up naming some very nice older trotters he turned.  Like I said Burke was into buying raceway horses before throwing  2-3mln into babies.  Now that he is buying 50 or more head a year Congrats he gets a few to be stars.  That's called having many eggs in a rather large basket. 

But like I have said recently, the industry doesn't delve into the ones that never make it, so out of sight out of mind.  I better let you go your a busy person or already done for the week since it's past 9am Monday.

You've said that very often.  So, why wait for the industry?  Give us a lesson, please.

I'd be interested. 

Or, at least stop implying the "industry" is not disclosing something important.
Title: Re: DANGLE THEN DEKE
Post by: horses first on August 11, 2016, 08:45:41 PM
What would u like a lesson on Calhoun?  Why some race horses never make the track because they have no talent, no heart, or they get injured along the way?  Or why the bettor feels they get ripped off daily?  Or why there seems to be the use of killing pain for decades with snake venom, frog juice, elephant juice, or using blood type enhancing like epo, cobalt, the other synthetic epo, or before that when anabolic steroids was a common item?  Know we do see the drug issue come up and the industry has tried to rid some things but states can be more uniform in punishment.  So what is it your referring Calhoun?
Title: Re: DANGLE THEN DEKE
Post by: Calhoun on August 11, 2016, 08:57:04 PM
What would u like a lesson on Calhoun?  Why some race horses never make the track because they have no talent, no heart, or they get injured along the way? 
This.

This  is what you've alluded to often .  Why don't we hear/ know about this?  You've mentioned breeders don't want the details out so as not to scare off new money.  So, what gives?  Are there really still people with no clue getting in ?

So, teach me.  Reach one, teach one and all that. 

You may assume I'm conversant, if not fluent, with the other issues you listed.
Title: Re: DANGLE THEN DEKE
Post by: ham sandwich on August 11, 2016, 08:59:58 PM
Horses first, how do you know how hard Nick Surick works?
Title: Re: DANGLE THEN DEKE
Post by: MR.DALRAE on August 11, 2016, 09:16:02 PM
Ham,,drivers don't make horses,,,,Trainers and horses make drivers,,,,it wasn't yannick today it was that dangle just wasn't his best today,,,these are not machines,,,and believe me dangle will get beat again
Title: Re: DANGLE THEN DEKE
Post by: Calhoun on August 11, 2016, 09:18:21 PM
They all get beat.
Title: Re: DANGLE THEN DEKE
Post by: MR.DALRAE on August 11, 2016, 09:19:25 PM
And that's a fact,,,
Title: Re: DANGLE THEN DEKE
Post by: RWB on August 11, 2016, 09:28:16 PM
Ham,,drivers don't make horses,,,,Trainers and horses make drivers,,,,it wasn't yannick today it was that dangle just wasn't his best today,,,these are not machines,,,and believe me dangle will get beat again

If you don't think Yannick won that race today you didn't watch the race...DTD drew away from that horse last week with a more difficult race....Yannick was in the 4 or 5 lane with that horse at the finish line from cutting a wheel under Tetrick 2x...the better horse did not win today.....the better driver did....If Yannick stays on the rail Tetrick wins by a length....100% fact
Title: Re: DANGLE THEN DEKE
Post by: Anakin on August 11, 2016, 09:31:05 PM
I watched the replay and don't think Dangle Then Deke was ever going by the Burke filly.  Really had no excuse IMO.  In fact the filly who came in 3rd was actually gaining on both late.
Title: Re: DANGLE THEN DEKE
Post by: SPERMIN HERMAN on August 11, 2016, 09:32:05 PM
If you don't think Yannick won that race today you didn't watch the race...DTD drew away from that horse last week with a more difficult race....Yannick was in the 4 or 5 lane with that horse at the finish line from cutting a wheel under Tetrick 2x...the better horse did not win today.....the better driver did....If Yannick stays on the rail Tetrick wins by a length....100% fact my opinion.

BRO- I FIXED YOUR POST FOR YOU.
Title: Re: DANGLE THEN DEKE
Post by: Anakin on August 11, 2016, 09:37:55 PM
In fact the Burke filly had a tougher trip of the two in the race at the Meadows, being parked to the quarter and going 4/5's of a second faster to the 3/4s in that race, whereas Dangle Then Deke laid off a fast pace and only had to trot the last quarter. Contrast that with today where Yannick was able to get his filly an easy lead and control a slower pace.   

Bottom line is these fillies seem very even to this observer.
Title: Re: DANGLE THEN DEKE
Post by: MR.DALRAE on August 11, 2016, 11:55:27 PM
If you don't think Yannick won that race today you didn't watch the race...DTD drew away from that horse last week with a more difficult race....Yannick was in the 4 or 5 lane with that horse at the finish line from cutting a wheel under Tetrick 2x...the better horse did not win today.....the better driver did....If Yannick stays on the rail Tetrick wins by a length....100% fact

Now yannick is the best,,if you say so
Title: Re: DANGLE THEN DEKE
Post by: scrnchmgr on August 16, 2016, 07:44:57 AM
I raised this filly from a baby to a yearling and she was the best filly that we had that year.
She has a lot of guts and determination and I think she will go far.
Title: Re: DANGLE THEN DEKE
Post by: muletrain on August 16, 2016, 09:05:08 AM
What would u like a lesson on Calhoun?  Why some race horses never make the track because they have no talent, no heart, or they get injured along the way?  Or why the bettor feels they get ripped off daily?  Or why there seems to be the use of killing pain for decades with snake venom, frog juice, elephant juice, or using blood type enhancing like epo, cobalt, the other synthetic epo, or before that when anabolic steroids was a common item?  Know we do see the drug issue come up and the industry has tried to rid some things but states can be more uniform in punishment.  So what is it your referring Calhoun?

Very well said.  i read HRU this past week and Burke won almost half the Stake races.  I don't think this can be good for the sport.  I am often asked why I don't buy in NY and the answer is I feel I will never win if I do.  The Breeders get rewards so they love when the top stables get their horses.  They don't care if they win clean or not.  I am not saying Burke specifically is cheating here...he obviously does something right and has a first class operation.  It is like the Olympics...no one knows who is competing clean and who is not.  Except now in Baseball and the Olympics the people who are performing clean are speaking up. Not so in horse racing.
 
I get attacked and probably will again here for pointing out the same thing horses first has. Most tracks have trainers that are as clean as the East German swim team. 

As for Dangle she got beat...no big deal..lots of horse start out great and then aren't.....and lots of great horses get beat and become greater.  Time will tell but I still think she is the real deal.  The sport needs more Horses First type owners.
Title: Re: DANGLE THEN DEKE
Post by: Calhoun on August 16, 2016, 09:08:59 AM
Very well said.  i read HRU this past week and Burke won almost half the Stake races.  I don't think this can be good for the sport.  I am often asked why I don't buy in NY and the answer is I feel I will never win if I do.  The Breeders get rewards so they love when the top stables get their horses.  They don't care if they win clean or not.  I am not saying Burke specifically is cheating here...he obviously does something right and has a first class operation.  It is like the Olympics...no one knows who is competing clean and who is not.  Except now in Baseball and the Olympics the people who are performing clean are speaking up. Not so in horse racing.
 
I get attacked and probably will again here for pointing out the same thing horses first has. Most tracks have trainers that are as clean as the East German swim team. 

As for Dangle she got beat...no big deal..lots of horse start out great and then aren't.....and lots of great horses get beat and become greater.  Time will tell but I still think she is the real deal.  The sport needs more Horses First type owners.
No, it was not a good post.  He ignored my followup a few posts above yours.  I guess answering or, at the very least acknowledging, didn't fit his "I'm an honest owner in a dishonest business" agenda.

I suppose he is a decent fellow but the crying owner act doesn't play.
Title: Re: DANGLE THEN DEKE
Post by: horses first on August 16, 2016, 10:12:34 AM
Follow up sorry wasn't sure there was a time limit Calhoun.  I was in Mears MI with the family at Silver Lake for four days.  About as much of a internet service as if I was standing Everest.  Sure you can get the point.  Then worked 14 hours on my rehab project.  So no not ignoring anything.  My take on breeders and this business.  A. why would the breeders want a scandal to hit a portion of the business that is propped up by slots?  Slots a revenue source from one gambling entity to another form of gambling entity that can't survive on it's own.  How many times have we heard of potential big scandals, with potential big names, and it never fully gets exposed.  There have been a few with PA having been linked to a couple.  The arspenic(spell word for sure) there were three names outside of PA that got busted, got many years(10?), and there was even a TV news reporting in PA of something very widespread.  Months went on and nothing.  Then you had the first outbreak of glaucine in PA, a few years ago, and again nothing.  Was handled internally.  I spoke with Dr Benson at the RMTC and they were aware of something but PA, NEVER according to her, gave up ONE detail.  IF handled back then maybe the NY glaucine could have been avoided. However 8 months later and still not much of a peep.  If I'm a crying owner, wouldn't say that I am, I STILL INVEST IN YEARLINGS, I STILL PAY MY TRAINERS BILL, VET BILLS, OR ANY OTHER BILLS THAT GET SENT TO MY ADDRESS.  I WOULD THINK I'M A DECENT OWNER STILL INVESTING IN THE GAME.  However like most sports in general when cheating occurs, big dollars are floated toward those players, there isn't a basic penalty(in most cases know there are) those other clean players start to keep up with the Jones.  Horse racing issue is state by state penalties.  My take on breeders then why would they want the top trainers and there top owners not continuing to win and then reinvest back into the sport.  Those are going to be the ones who do because they have the deepest pockets even if they aren't making money or are just breaking even.  Still churning bigger race checks to reinvest.  Lets take a smaller owner who enjoys a good year.  He/she may say I will still buy a yearling or two, keep to the budget, and keep the winnings from lost years.  It's the big outfits that churn the product.  Owners have left the game for many of reasons.  The product has more or less dwindled to the fewest of foals in more then a decade.  Ohio recently has pumped some life into those breeding numbers with a 2015 and 2016 crop.  However look at the poor breeders awards in IN and OH vs PA and NY.  Those breeders in IN and OH need that big yearling sale price because they aren't making up money elsewhere.  I heard after this year, 2 year old crop that mares bred starts falling off.  That maybe 2018 400 fewer?  I suppose my point is this, the industry isn't bringing in new investors, more so that have left past ten years.  So why if your a PA breeder who use to have the luxury of 42% breeders awards in the early slot days, down to the lower 30% tile these days, would you want to see major negative news that could hamper potential big name trainers linked to a drugging scandal.  The casinos would love the day this news gets out into the public eye.  National TV.  Also whatever I may have said in a forum years ago never came without some creditability whether it was from one of those three PA outsiders who got 10 years(?) or from a no comment wink wink from a horsemen on the PA horsemen association.  I'm not one for drama or just floating out bullshit.  There is time for kidding aside on a forum but as I will say horses first.  They are the true athlete in this business, what most of the public comes to see and wager on.  Why kids or young adults fall in love with these amazing animals not seeing the dollar and cents part of the game.
Title: Re: DANGLE THEN DEKE
Post by: scrnchmgr on August 20, 2016, 09:17:47 PM
I see Dangle is in on the 23rd and the driver is Yannick
Title: Re: DANGLE THEN DEKE
Post by: scrnchmgr on September 11, 2016, 05:47:57 PM
Does anyone know what happened to dangle in the race at harrah's ?
Title: Re: DANGLE THEN DEKE
Post by: LUCPARK on September 11, 2016, 06:27:30 PM
Does anyone know what happened to dangle in the race at harrah's ?

like u dont know,,FCKIN HATER

STOP ACTING LIKE AN ASSHOLE,,

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Title: Re: DANGLE THEN DEKE
Post by: MR.DALRAE on September 11, 2016, 07:44:34 PM
ROUGH TIME FOR A BREAK,,,,,,,,NICE POCKET TRIP BUT SEEMED TO NOT LIKE THE SURFACE AS MORE DO,,,,,NEVER SEEMED COMFORTABLE TO ME
Title: Re: DANGLE THEN DEKE
Post by: horses first on September 11, 2016, 07:56:07 PM
Roc, he isn't a hater, they raised her.  I think the question is why she may have broke.  I had a tight window back to the airport from what I got back from Dirk.  Brett said she was loaded with trot, took one long step, before he could grab her she ran.  Bad time for her to have a bad day didn't seem to have hit anything no marks when she came back.  Just have to go to the next race.  Unfortunate but that is racing so they say. 
Title: Re: DANGLE THEN DEKE
Post by: LUCPARK on September 11, 2016, 08:05:50 PM
Then I apologize..I thought they were BUSTING u jimmy

Title: Re: DANGLE THEN DEKE
Post by: FreeBA on September 11, 2016, 08:33:13 PM
Then I apologize..I thought they were BUSTING u jimmy



Pay attention will ya, so you don't always look like an idiot.
Title: Re: DANGLE THEN DEKE
Post by: steve g on September 11, 2016, 10:33:36 PM
Pay attention will ya, so you don't always look like an idiot.

He looks like one anyways , he acts like he gives a shit when he wants , yet he also talks shit about other owners horses.  You can't have it both ways if you want to PRETEND like you care .....
Title: Re: DANGLE THEN DEKE
Post by: scrnchmgr on September 12, 2016, 02:49:37 PM
Thanks for the info I was afraid that she might have taken a bad step and got hurt .Bad time for that to happen but I think she is a really good filly . Good luck going forward .
Title: Re: DANGLE THEN DEKE
Post by: MR.DALRAE on September 12, 2016, 09:14:42 PM
He looks like one anyways , he acts like he gives a shit when he wants , yet he also talks shit about other owners horses.  You can't have it both ways if you want to PRETEND like you care .....
ACTS KIND OF MANIC MOST TIMES,,,JUST AN OBSERVATION
Title: Re: DANGLE THEN DEKE
Post by: horses first on September 12, 2016, 10:49:18 PM
Thanks scrnchmgr she came out of the race fine.  Look for her next tues at Delaware Co. 
Title: Re: DANGLE THEN DEKE
Post by: MR.DALRAE on September 13, 2016, 01:52:05 AM
GOOD LUCK AT THE FAIR
Title: Re: DANGLE THEN DEKE
Post by: scrnchmgr on September 13, 2016, 03:07:11 PM
Thanks look forward to watching her.
Title: Re: DANGLE THEN DEKE
Post by: scrnchmgr on September 30, 2016, 01:55:15 PM
Dangle had easy money at harrahs today looked good and didn't break a sweat .
Title: Re: DANGLE THEN DEKE
Post by: scrnchmgr on October 04, 2016, 06:04:11 PM
I see that dangle then deke is in at the red mile on friday.
  GOOD LUCK
Title: Re: DANGLE THEN DEKE
Post by: horses first on October 04, 2016, 06:59:35 PM
TY.
Title: Re: DANGLE THEN DEKE
Post by: MR.DALRAE on October 07, 2016, 04:34:15 PM
SIMPLY WAS NO GOOD TODAY
Title: Re: DANGLE THEN DEKE
Post by: horses first on October 07, 2016, 06:06:18 PM
She tried came back blowing more then usual.  Brett said she may have thrown a step a time or two.  Didn't watch the replay yet and will have the vet take a look tomorrow.  Long season for the little filly two more starts left and then a vaction.  Whenever u can get a 55 trotter at two hard to complain about much.  She has been on the track for 11 months and had her knees done once along with her hocks once.  What I will be hoping for is she grows 4 or 5 inches over the winter and next spring.  She made racing a bit more fun for me this year after a couple years of seeing horses not perform well.  Tricky business.  Delrae if the finals are at Poke next year and she makes it I better see you and I have the tab big boy!
Title: Re: DANGLE THEN DEKE
Post by: LUCPARK on October 07, 2016, 06:49:18 PM
she been good all yr jim

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Title: Re: DANGLE THEN DEKE
Post by: MR.DALRAE on October 07, 2016, 06:58:38 PM
Jimmy very good year ,, hope she comes back even better at 3
Title: Re: DANGLE THEN DEKE
Post by: RANDOLPH POKER on February 07, 2020, 05:38:45 PM
Just had her first foal this morning - a colt by WALNER
Title: Re: DANGLE THEN DEKE
Post by: PIGLAND on February 07, 2020, 05:42:36 PM
Just had her first foal this morning - a colt by WALNER
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Title: Re: DANGLE THEN DEKE
Post by: LUCPARK on February 09, 2020, 12:32:44 AM
Just had her first foal this morning - a colt by WALNER

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