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Title: Anybody excited for the bloodedhorse sale?
Post by: Winners Win on May 13, 2018, 08:55:08 PM
Which one will be the sale topper?
Title: Re: Anybody excited for the bloodedhorse sale?
Post by: TWOGOLDTEEFS on May 13, 2018, 09:06:25 PM
   Nobody excited to see the first 50 be bought up for dog food. There is few in there im curious how much they bring.
Title: Re: Anybody excited for the bloodedhorse sale?
Post by: LUCPARK on May 13, 2018, 09:10:32 PM
Lots are carry overs from the cancelled winter sale

Imho nothin much in here
Title: Re: Anybody excited for the bloodedhorse sale?
Post by: viking55 on May 13, 2018, 09:30:24 PM
Amish and the killers are excited.
Title: Re: Anybody excited for the bloodedhorse sale?
Post by: Nameaintbrian on May 14, 2018, 12:59:00 AM
Also has $300 bids on the first 70
Title: Re: Anybody excited for the bloodedhorse sale?
Post by: Winners Win on May 14, 2018, 08:27:41 AM
I like when big money lucpark isn't bidding.  Maybe I can get one reasonable.
Title: Re: Anybody excited for the bloodedhorse sale?
Post by: Joe Dirt on May 14, 2018, 08:42:54 AM
 EDDIE SWEAT
Classy racehorse, good mannered, sound and racing well.
Title: Re: Anybody excited for the bloodedhorse sale?
Post by: LUCPARK on May 14, 2018, 08:46:42 AM
EDDIE SWEAT
Classy racehorse, good mannered, sound and racing well.

that was a nice horse few yrs back,,
Title: Re: Anybody excited for the bloodedhorse sale?
Post by: Dr. Adam Freeham on May 14, 2018, 10:34:26 AM
As part of my goal to become the #1 Jewish owner of Standardbred  racehorses I will be there purchasing several.  If you like a certain horse, but cant afford it, let me know and I will become a partner in the purchase. You have heard the phrase a chicken in every pot, well my new slogan will be, a horse in every barn, every race, every day.
Title: Re: Anybody excited for the bloodedhorse sale?
Post by: Calhoun on May 14, 2018, 10:52:56 AM
Lots are carry overs from the cancelled winter sale

Imho nothin much in here
I agree.  Good time to accumulate cash and let the ones in the barn continue to develop. 



 
Title: Re: Anybody excited for the bloodedhorse sale?
Post by: Refusedtopace on May 14, 2018, 11:41:45 AM
I’m excited....finall y selling my two rats.
Title: Re: Anybody excited for the bloodedhorse sale?
Post by: slivercharm on May 14, 2018, 07:18:15 PM
More excited for the fake trips
Title: Re: Anybody excited for the bloodedhorse sale?
Post by: LUCPARK on May 15, 2018, 09:22:06 AM
Good luck
Everyone
 we just got hare tmbz1
Title: Re: Anybody excited for the bloodedhorse sale?
Post by: Calhoun on May 15, 2018, 09:32:05 AM
More excited for the fake trips
Why do people lie?
Title: Re: Anybody excited for the bloodedhorse sale?
Post by: McGIBBS on May 15, 2018, 10:49:53 AM
EDDIE SWEAT
Classy racehorse, good mannered, sound and racing well.

A FOOL AND HIS MONEY ARE SOON PARTED

10,500 FOR THIS RAT, ONLY STARTED 3 TIMES LAST YEAR... 0 FOR 11 THIS YEAR AND 3K IN BOTTOM LEVEL RACES
Title: Re: Anybody excited for the bloodedhorse sale?
Post by: LUCPARK on May 15, 2018, 11:17:10 AM
Horse shortage
Title: Re: Anybody excited for the bloodedhorse sale?
Post by: Dr. Adam Freeham on May 15, 2018, 06:57:18 PM
Bought several in partnership with the French Foreign Legion guy, Air Allard.  If Trump  and Macron  can hit it off, so can a Heeb  and a frog  ribbit! ribbit
Title: Re: Anybody excited for the bloodedhorse sale?
Post by: Refusedtopace on May 15, 2018, 07:22:04 PM
My 8 claimer brought $9700. 4 claimer brought $5. Unbelievable
Title: Re: Anybody excited for the bloodedhorse sale?
Post by: mass hole on May 16, 2018, 06:25:31 AM
sales are so over priced....big waste of time....
Title: Re: Anybody excited for the bloodedhorse sale?
Post by: viking55 on May 16, 2018, 10:15:55 AM
sales are so over priced....big waste of time....

Not if you're a juicer buying previously unjuiced horses.  tmbz1 tmbz1
Title: Re: Anybody excited for the bloodedhorse sale?
Post by: bond on May 16, 2018, 10:28:38 AM
Not if you're a juicer buying previously unjuiced horses.  tmbz1 tmbz1

 I see Rene Allard purchased about 400,000$ worth of new horseflesh.
He doesnt care what he pays for them-just keeps bidding like hes got a bottomless pit of money.
Horses that should go for 20--he'll pay 40.
There is something very odd about this-very odd.
Why buy all these horses-most ending in claimers-only to be claimed away.?
He also purchased a heap last sale-them brought them all to Indiana and sold the lot shortly after--wtf?
As Shakespeare once wrote in Hamlet "Something is rotten in the state of Denmark"
Title: Re: Anybody excited for the bloodedhorse sale?
Post by: viking55 on May 16, 2018, 10:50:26 AM
Have to weed through them and find the ones who "respond" to his "training methods". The ones who do will pay for the ones who don't. Kind of like buying 40 yearlings hoping a couple will pan out.
Title: Re: Anybody excited for the bloodedhorse sale?
Post by: Winners Win on May 18, 2018, 12:33:55 PM
My 8 claimer brought $9700. 4 claimer brought $5. Unbelievable

Unless I missed it, I dont see a horse that sold for 9700 in the entire sale.  Is this imaginary horses?
Title: Re: Anybody excited for the bloodedhorse sale?
Post by: slivercharm on May 18, 2018, 12:43:42 PM
I see Rene Allard purchased about 400,000$ worth of new horseflesh.
He doesnt care what he pays for them-just keeps bidding like hes got a bottomless pit of money.
Horses that should go for 20--he'll pay 40.
There is something very odd about this-very odd.
Why buy all these horses-most ending in claimers-only to be claimed away.?
He also purchased a heap last sale-them brought them all to Indiana and sold the lot shortly after--wtf?
As Shakespeare once wrote in Hamlet "Something is rotten in the state of Denmark"


Do u not realize it's a money laundering scheme ?
Title: Re: Anybody excited for the bloodedhorse sale?
Post by: bond on May 19, 2018, 08:07:39 AM
Do u not realize it's a money laundering scheme ?

 tmbz1 You may be onto something-as this is what this smells like. After taking into consideration his "training fees" and the money he spends at the sales most of his owners would be in a major financial hole-yet the claiming and the buying at sales and selling continues at a rate that ive never seen -nor has anyone else I know.
Anyone else notice that there are less and less claiming races happening?
There used to be many 25,30,40 and 50 claimers in PA---now mostly gone .
Yonkers way less high priced claimers.
Allard certainly hasnt helped this situation IMHO--many owners being sick of just 2-3 trainers dominating this side of racing.
Allard and Banca(maybe others)- dont claim from each other--making the whole claiming game--unattractive for owners.

I believe in free enterprise--but the system these guys have in place is more like a monopoly--and this isnt good for any business.
Title: Re: Anybody excited for the bloodedhorse sale?
Post by: Brown jug on May 19, 2018, 09:34:17 AM
bottom line is there is a horse shortage everywhere
tracks cancelling cards
short fields at most tracks
even average horses are valuable
horseman have to have horses to send bills to clients so they buy whatever they can find
Title: Re: Anybody excited for the bloodedhorse sale?
Post by: The Exporter on May 19, 2018, 09:47:05 AM
tmbz1 You may be onto something-as this is what this smells like. After taking into consideration his "training fees" and the money he spends at the sales most of his owners would be in a major financial hole-yet the claiming and the buying at sales and selling continues at a rate that ive never seen -nor has anyone else I know.
Anyone else notice that there are less and less claiming races happening?
There used to be many 25,30,40 and 50 claimers in PA---now mostly gone .
Yonkers way less high priced claimers.
Allard certainly hasnt helped this situation IMHO--many owners being sick of just 2-3 trainers dominating this side of racing.
Allard and Banca(maybe others)- dont claim from each other--making the whole claiming game--unattractive for owners.

I believe in free enterprise--but the system these guys have in place is more like a monopoly--and this isnt good for any business.

Like any other business, it will correct when it no longer produces the desired result. To me, this dude seems to be a bit of a deal junkie. He appears to get as much or more out of making a deal than reaping the benefits of the deal. He is less intimidated by potential loss than others. He also scores big , too.
Title: Re: Anybody excited for the bloodedhorse sale?
Post by: bond on May 19, 2018, 10:01:37 AM
Like any other business, it will correct when it no longer produces the desired result. To me, this dude seems to be a bit of a deal junkie. He appears to get as much or more out of making a deal than reaping the benefits of the deal. He is less intimidated by potential loss than others. He also scores big , too.

 tmbz1 Very true--what he is doing as silver charm suggests,would seem to be the perfect outlet to conduct this type of scam.

If you have no worries about potential loss-buy whatever you want-reap the benefits of some of the horses you  buy turning into money makers-while the rest end up "losing" money-is still a win -win for him.
Then add the bonus of doing deals with fellow rivals to collude to keep the ones making money in classes where they dominate=another scam.
IMHO-this is all bad for business.
Owners get out, the horses he races go off at skinny odds stifling betting,-no new owners want to overpay at sales-so your business goes down the toilet.
Title: Re: Anybody excited for the bloodedhorse sale?
Post by: Pull the Pocket on May 19, 2018, 10:32:29 AM
  It is past time for cheap, under funded operations to get out of the game. They are holding the sport back. All this talk about horses being overpriced is bull shit for people who don't belong in the game any longer, How much was brand new auto in 1975? If you cant play with the big dogs, don't leave the porch
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