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Title: EXCLUSION,,BIGM AND JEFF FACE LAWSUIT
Post by: LUCPARK on August 26, 2021, 02:16:55 PM
https://harnesslink.com/usa/meadowlands-named-in-lawsuit-over-exclusion/
Title: Re: EXCLUSION,,BIGM AND JEFF FACE LAWSUIT
Post by: Calhoun on August 26, 2021, 02:27:44 PM
On this, Gural has my support.
Title: Re: EXCLUSION,,BIGM AND JEFF FACE LAWSUIT
Post by: LUCPARK on August 26, 2021, 02:40:54 PM
On this, Gural has my support.
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Title: Re: EXCLUSION,,BIGM AND JEFF FACE LAWSUIT
Post by: Emperor Dapple on August 26, 2021, 02:52:35 PM
Hmm.. 2 of the owners named in the lawsuit Brian + Ira Wallach were also owners who used Carmine Fusco(RIP) who seemed to also have somewhat of a reputation and now Daniel Renaud who seems to win his share of races too..I guess these guys know who the winning trainers are..But in their defense they do spend a ton on buying and claiming horses in the NY/PA circuit.. I guess they should win a fair amount of races.. I’m not sure banning these owners accomplishes much but it’s Gurals track .. I guess he can do whatever he wants to do..
Title: Re: EXCLUSION,,BIGM AND JEFF FACE LAWSUIT
Post by: silent one on August 26, 2021, 02:54:59 PM
  Gural only excludes the drug trainers that beat his drug trainers. F'ing hysterical about his effort to "clean up the sport" Jenny Da Ho goes from being his failed, incompetent on air talent, to the 3rd leading trainer in North America? The Millers would be homeless without pharmaceutically enhanced horses. "Teflon" Ron? Does Gural really want to go to trial, and have to testify under oath? The plaintiffs should subpoena the financial records of Gural's "clean" trainers, then bring them to court as well, and have them testify. As much as I dislike Allard's owners, have any of them been charged with anything?

    Sincerely, Silent One
Title: Re: EXCLUSION,,BIGM AND JEFF FACE LAWSUIT
Post by: Pacingqueen on August 26, 2021, 03:01:39 PM
  Gural only excludes the drug trainers that beat his drug trainers. F'ing hysterical about his effort to "clean up the sport" Jenny Da Ho goes from being his failed, incompetent on air talent, to the 3rd leading trainer in North America? The Millers would be homeless without pharmaceutically enhanced horses. "Teflon" Ron? Does Gural really want to go to trial, and have to testify under oath? The plaintiffs should subpoena the financial records of Gural's "clean" trainers, then bring them to court as well, and have them testify. As much as I dislike Allard's owners, have any of them been charged with anything?

    Sincerely, Silent One


Jen on her way out shortly.
Title: Re: EXCLUSION,,BIGM AND JEFF FACE LAWSUIT
Post by: Wendall Tilley on August 26, 2021, 03:07:32 PM
F**k those scumbags Hope Gural countersues their slimy asses.
Title: Re: EXCLUSION,,BIGM AND JEFF FACE LAWSUIT
Post by: Nostrathomas on August 26, 2021, 03:25:15 PM
So, these owners, who continue to send horses to a stable that was literally called a "death camp" on tape, by a Veterinarian no less, band together to sue Jeff G. because they are being denied the right to continue racing said horses, at a private track, under the paper name of some other soulless groom moron?
Only in America...
Title: Re: EXCLUSION,,BIGM AND JEFF FACE LAWSUIT
Post by: Brkn Headpole on August 26, 2021, 04:12:30 PM
I hope they pursue this and Jeff pulls all the 5Stones intelligence out on them and make them shut their cakeholes.
Title: Re: EXCLUSION,,BIGM AND JEFF FACE LAWSUIT
Post by: bostonborne on August 26, 2021, 05:27:48 PM
If he ever needs to serve Simone a subpoena you can find him in a back seat somewhere with a black child, committing child abuse!!!
Title: Re: EXCLUSION,,BIGM AND JEFF FACE LAWSUIT
Post by: jupiter on August 26, 2021, 05:30:32 PM
Scumbag owners, wish more tracks would follow his lead, only way is to hit em in the pockets. They have TAPES, calling it ¨DEATH CAMP¨ and these assholes want to come out in the light, and sue. They should loose just for being greedy fucks that does not care about their horses. They should crawl back in their holes.
Title: Re: EXCLUSION,,BIGM AND JEFF FACE LAWSUIT
Post by: Hush Limbaugh II on August 26, 2021, 06:39:40 PM
Glucosamine sealed Gooooofffffrrrrra aaaaallllll's fate. Who were 2 of Gooooooooooooofff ffrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr aaaaaalllllllll's primary trainers during this time, none other than Teflon Ronnie and Andy Miller.

And how did that investigation play out. How fast we forget  11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp

Remember what Jefffie said, you get caught you won't race at my tracks.  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3

Except if you are Ronnie (Painkiller) Burke or Andy (Swingers) Miller  11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp
Title: Re: EXCLUSION,,BIGM AND JEFF FACE LAWSUIT
Post by: Bernie Madoff on August 26, 2021, 06:49:20 PM
Glucosamine sealed Gooooofffffrrrrra aaaaallllll's fate. Who were 2 of Gooooooooooooofff ffrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr aaaaaalllllllll's primary trainers during this time, none other than Teflon Ronnie and Andy Miller.

And how did that investigation play out. How fast we forget  11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp

Remember what Jefffie said, you get caught you won't race at my tracks.  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3

Except if you are Ronnie (Painkiller) Burke or Andy (Swingers) Miller  11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp









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Title: Re: EXCLUSION,,BIGM AND JEFF FACE LAWSUIT
Post by: Wendall Tilley on August 26, 2021, 07:18:25 PM
Do you even know what glucosamine is ? Please educate yourselves.
Title: Re: EXCLUSION,,BIGM AND JEFF FACE LAWSUIT
Post by: Yonkers1A on August 26, 2021, 08:02:08 PM
Once Jeff wins, I hope all tracks banded these bums
Title: Re: EXCLUSION,,BIGM AND JEFF FACE LAWSUIT
Post by: COUNSELOR on August 26, 2021, 10:55:02 PM
THE LAW IS VERY CLEAR----THIS CASE HAS NO MERIT.  THEREFORE, MR. GURAL WILL EASILY WIN AND HAVE THIS CASE DISMISSED.   ANY PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNER HAS THE RIGHT TO EXCLUDE WITHOUT CAUSE.   THEREFORE, I TRULY EXPECT THE LEGAL TEAM TO SOON PRESENT A MOTION FOR SUMMARY JUDGEMENT.  I HAVE NOT SEEN THE CASE BUT I CANNOT IMAGINE THAT THERE IS ANY MATTER OF LAW THAT CAN BE DISPUTED. THE CASE IS MERITLESS NO MATTER WHO CLAIMS THEY WERE EXCLUDED FOR ANY REASON.  DOES NOT MATTER.

I WOULD AGREE WITH MOST OF THE POSTED COMMENTS ABOVE:  "ONLY IN AMERICA!" 

THE INDUSTRY IS VERY FRAGILE RIGHT NOW AND THERE ARE MANY GOOD FOLKS THAT ARE ATTEMPTING TO EARN AN HONEST LIVING IN THIS INDUSTRY.   I SURE WOULD HOPE THAT THESE FOLKS WOULD BAND TOGETHER TO TRY AND SAVE THE SPORT AS IT IS SO FRAGILE.

FURTHER, I PREACH DAILY THAT THIS SPORT LACKS LEADERSHIP.   THERE IS NO ONE OUT THERE THAT DAILY WORKS THE PRESS AS WELL AS GOVERNMENT AND GOVERNMENT AGENCIES FOR GOOD PRESS AND ADVANCEMENT OF THE SPORT.  I MAY SOUND REPETITIVE BUT THERE HAS TO BE AN HONEST HARD WORKING RESPECTED INDIVIDUAL THAT COULD BE THE VOICE OF THE SPORT AND TRULY HAVE THE BEST INTEREST OF THE HONEST HORSEMEN AND OWNERS AT THE FOREFRONT.   

I COULD NEVER UNDERSTAND HOW AN INDUSTRY THAT WAS AT ONE TIME SO VERY LARGE COULD GO WITHOUT A VOICE.....A COMMISIONER THAT WAS BASICALLY EVERYWHERE-----POLITICALLY CONNECTED AND REPRESENTING THE INDUSTRY.  SURELY THERE ARE SO MANY SUCCESSFUL WEALTHY OWNERS IN THE SPORT THAT COULD HIRE A TOP TOP TOP LOBBYIST/COMMISSIONER TO TRULY  MARKET THIS SPORT PROPERLY!

NEVER TOO LATE BUT SO MANY HAD THEIR OWN INTEREST AT HEART AND FORGOT ALONG THE WAY TO PROTECT AND TO ADVANCE THIS SPORT!   I DO NOT KNOW MR. GURAL.  KNOW NOTHING ABOUT HIM ----GOOD OR BAD BUT THE MEADOWLANDS IS AN ABSOLUTELY BEAUTIFUL FACILITY AND WILL ALWAYS BE THE SHOWPLACE OF THE SPORT!
Title: Re: EXCLUSION,,BIGM AND JEFF FACE LAWSUIT
Post by: Locked in with pace on August 27, 2021, 06:53:05 AM
COUNSELOR:
    Your thoughts on some decisions from the courts on the original 29 indicted? I see in the thoroughbreds, Navaro plead guilty and received some huge restitution payments,
Title: Re: EXCLUSION,,BIGM AND JEFF FACE LAWSUIT
Post by: Janny on August 27, 2021, 12:25:02 PM
Deport the jerks.
Title: Re: EXCLUSION,,BIGM AND JEFF FACE LAWSUIT
Post by: Hush Limbaugh II on August 30, 2021, 06:45:37 PM
Glucosamine sealed Gooooofffffrrrrra aaaaallllll's fate. Who were 2 of Gooooooooooooofff ffrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr aaaaaalllllllll's primary trainers during this time, none other than Teflon Ronnie and Andy Miller.

And how did that investigation play out. How fast we forget  11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp

Remember what Jefffie said, you get caught you won't race at my tracks.  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3

Except if you are Ronnie (Painkiller) Burke or Andy (Swingers) Miller  11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp

I referenced the wrong medication it was Glaucine.     https://www.thoroughbreddailynews.com/jeff-gurals-trainer-among-pair-hit-with-positives/

https://harnesslink.com/usa/glaucine-positives/
Title: Re: EXCLUSION,,BIGM AND JEFF FACE LAWSUIT
Post by: Stan durbread on September 01, 2021, 05:05:35 AM
Yes it was Glaucine. From the sawdust. Lol. Didn’t seem to matter that in the NJRC ruling it mentioned finding a bottle among other things in Steve Elliots tack room
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