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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: Winsome on January 10, 2021, 05:52:55 PM
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Amazing how Dan Rawlings at The Meadows is allowed to get away with excessive and abusive whipping
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Dan drives the way a person is supposed to , blood and hair on the whip , going all out , good to see tmbz1
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Dan drives the way a person is supposed to , blood and hair on the whip , going all out , good to see tmbz1
BEN HUR YES tmbz1
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i agree leave the drivers alone let them drive
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So you’re ok with horses being abused
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We’re talking about a specific driver with very little talent. PETA has nothing to do with it. A driver with ability doesn’t need to pound on his horse to win.
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We’re talking about a specific driver with very little talent. PETA has nothing to do with it. A driver with ability doesn’t need to pound on his horse to win.
The best will flat drill one if they can get away with it. Same with kicking. Are you new?
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I own 22 head how about you. Again we’re talking about a guy that constantly beats beats horses that are out of contention.
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I own 22 head how about you. Again we’re talking about a guy that constantly beats beats horses that are out of contention.
YOU DO HAVE TO TEACH THOSE LOSERS A LESSON, NO LOLLYGAGGING 11.wp
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You PETA folks are nuts! Whipping a horse is fine , racing is ruined without it , wise up!!!
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!!!!WHAT!!!! You gave head to 22 hell you must have lockjaw.
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AS LONG AS IT AINT MY BLOOD, I HAVE NO PROBLEMS WITH IT
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Would you rather lose your bet or purse because of driver not trying, go back to fucking PETA this ain't for you.
Years ago in NZ, there was a maiden who had drawn 16 in a 16 horse field and he was labelled Urgent. He was a very lazy horse and had to be whipped to get him to find the other gear which head had. He had plenty of gears but had no intentions of using them without being persuaded.
The horse was 18-1 and went off at 2-1 and he wheeled the field with 5/8th to go and was in danger of getting headed at top of the stretch. His driver whipped him only 6 times in the stretch and each time he gained a length on the opposition. He won by 6 and many of us cashed in. He, of course, got fined like 500 and a suspension because every one of those 6 drew blood on his ass. He won quite a few more races and was never lazy again. He told the judges had he not whipped him, he would not have won and he would have been accused of not driving him out.
This guy was a well know top driver who trained a few as in like half a dozen of other people's horses and they always won. He would take a horse off someone for a month and get the desired result. the horse would keep winning when the original trainer got them back so I guess he had a method that worked. Never was ever accused of drugging and all he did was jog them miles and miles up the countryside on the side of the road for miles and miles every day.
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Whip to win
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A little over a month ago in Australia in the $450,000 Grade One at Gloucester Vultin Tin beat Chicago Bull. The driver of Vultin Tin was fined $1200 and given a 7 day suspension for "unacceptable whip". The driver of Chicago Bull was also fined $750 for the same thing.
I watched the stretch drive and didn't think that much of it. Some places treat it a lot harder than we do.
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How about a link to that race? Would love to see the stretch run.
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Here's a link to that day's card. It was the 6th race. There is a play button on the top right of the results of that race
http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=GP041220#GPM04122003
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As long as drivers carry a whip, there will always be controversy. I have been driving horses for 50 years and can tell you that some horses surely need a wake up call but how the pilot can deliver it is the question. The great ones, always knew how to do it without much fanfare. I remember Herve would come back with a horse and you would never even see him whipping however inside the right stifle, you would find 3 surgical like lacerations. Other drivers would be sure to get a horses respect or attention before the start so that just the threat of the whip will make a horse go on. I have told clients to put on another driver because I felt the horse was cheating on me and they needed someone to wake them up! Some drivers are definitely better on rats that don't try. I've gotten a few whip infractions over the years and yes they were well deserved as they were often administered out of frustration because I was displeased with a horses effort. Todays drivers have developed a technique where they can lay into one while keeping both hands in the handholds! I guess there will always be controversy and rules which, by the way, vary from track to track and it is wise to bone up on them before the race as it can get very expensive. The one thing that I can say for certain is that carrying a whip is mandatory as any driver that lost his early in the race can attest. Slapping one with the lines will only get you so far!
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As long as drivers carry a whip, there will always be controversy. I have been driving horses for 50 years and can tell you that some horses surely need a wake up call but how the pilot can deliver it is the question. The great ones, always knew how to do it without much fanfare. I remember Herve would come back with a horse and you would never even see him whipping however inside the right stifle, you would find 3 surgical like lacerations. Other drivers would be sure to get a horses respect or attention before the start so that just the threat of the whip will make a horse go on. I have told clients to put on another driver because I felt the horse was cheating on me and they needed someone to wake them up! Some drivers are definitely better on rats that don't try. I've gotten a few whip infractions over the years and yes they were well deserved as they were often administered out of frustration because I was displeased with a horses effort. Todays drivers have developed a technique where they can lay into one while keeping both hands in the handholds! I guess there will always be controversy and rules which, by the way, vary from track to track and it is wise to bone up on them before the race as it can get very expensive. The one thing that I can say for certain is that carrying a whip is mandatory as any driver that lost his early in the race can attest. Slapping one with the lines will only get you so far!
tmbz1
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The meadowlands has a brutal policy and tough fines. Wonder if they will follow through with it
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The meadowlands has a brutal policy and tough fines. Wonder if they will follow through with it
They only let certain cheats drop in the box, so who knows?