Erv Miller

[eagles1]

I see he has a trotter listed on On Gait.  I would be very careful before I bid on one of his horses.  Used pictures that were almost a year old on a horse I bought from him.  Never again!

A friend bought Roy Orbisong from him in a sale as a 3 year old for $98000. He had a chipped bone in his knee. Vet who looked at it next day said it was not a new chip. Stopped payment on the check. They wouldn't take him back so my friend sent him a bill after 6 months for care and feeding. They finally settled for a big discount. After a year off he came back and was quite a racehorse. Took a mark of 1:50:1 at Harrington and made almost $400000.

[Generation XYZ]

Why is this thread news to anyone? Its been known for years that buyer beware when buying from certain trainers. The subject matter here is NO EXCEPTION. In fact most know the reputed M.O. so anyone buying from this barn is either a fool, or thinkc they can some how improve on horses drilled into the ground.

[PurpleSheetPicks]

Muscle dynasty was sold from his barn. 200k in a year and a half later

[Generation XYZ]

Lets not forget DOMETHATAGAIN, Allard launched that one after buying from Erv. But again, buyer beware, do your own homework. Its up to the buyer, not as much the seller.

[Dingus]

They're not all success' what happened to HOOFBID?

Also ehorse.
Eharness gets like 1 listing a week.
Harnessbid has no listings.

[samstar]

Sold to Erv Miller!   Sham bidding all the way!

[LAW AND ORDER]

Why is this thread news to anyone? Its been known for years that buyer beware when buying from certain trainers. The subject matter here is NO EXCEPTION. In fact most know the reputed M.O. so anyone buying from this barn is either a fool, or thinkc they can some how improve on horses drilled into the ground.

COME ON XYZ. I KNOW YOU BETTER THAN THIS. HOW IN THE FUCK CAN ANYONE TELL IF A BASTARD LIKE ERV POSTS OLD PHOTOS OR PHOTOS THAT ARENT EVEN THE HORSE THAT IS UP FOR AUCTION? THERE IS ONLY SO MUCH YOU CAN DO. I HOPE THE GUY DOES WHAT COUNSELOR SAID TO DO AND THAT IS REPORT ERV AND ONGAIT ON HOW HE WAS SCAMMED AND LET THE FEDS STEP IN. HONEST ERV HAS ANOTHER HORSE ON ONGAIT RIGHT NOW SO ITS CLEAR THAT MAURICE AND ERIC ARE WORSE THAN HIM. HOPE THEY ALL GET INVESTIGATED AND GO DOWN TOGETHER. AND I DONT WANNA HEAR THAT BULLSHIT BUYER BEWARD. WHEN YOU HAVE POND SCUM AS LOW AS ONGAIT AND ERV, THESE ARE SOME EVIL CHEATING POS SCUMBAGS.

[Harness racer]

I'm guessing by SAMSTAR's bitter comments that PONDA ADVENTURE has a big hole in him somewhere and is not the horse he was expecting! 

[LAW AND ORDER]

JUST HEARD THAT ONGAIT IS SAYING THEY DONT WANT TO BE INVOLVED IN THIS SAD SITUATION.         
MEANWHILE ERIC AND MAURICE ARE LETTING ERV SELL MORE RATS ON THERE CROOKED WEBSITE

[Harness racer]

Almost $73k is a steep price for a horse without a recent picture.  Only a true piece of shit would pull something like that if it's true.

[LAW AND ORDER]

Almost $73k is a steep price for a horse without a recent picture.  Only a true piece of shit would pull something like that if it's true.

YOU KNOW WHEN I WAS YOUNGER I SKIPPED OUT ON A FEW BILLS AND FILED BK TWICE, BUT I NEVER FUCKED ONE PERSON AROUND TO THE EXTENT OF 73K. I'M JUST SAYING WE'VE ALL DONE SHIT THAT WERE MAYBE NOT THE BEST THING LOOKING BACK, BUT WHEN ERV DID HERE TO THIS POOR GUY IS JUST DOWNRIGHT EVIL. I MEAN IT MAKES YOU WONDER HOW HE CAN SLEEP AT NIGHT. I MEAN SOONER OR LATER SOMEONE WILL BUST HIS FUCKING HEAD. JUST SAYING......

[Generation XYZ]

COME ON XYZ. I KNOW YOU BETTER THAN THIS. HOW IN THE FUCK CAN ANYONE TELL IF A BASTARD LIKE ERV POSTS OLD PHOTOS OR PHOTOS THAT ARENT EVEN THE HORSE THAT IS UP FOR AUCTION? THERE IS ONLY SO MUCH YOU CAN DO. I HOPE THE GUY DOES WHAT COUNSELOR SAID TO DO AND THAT IS REPORT ERV AND ONGAIT ON HOW HE WAS SCAMMED AND LET THE FEDS STEP IN. HONEST ERV HAS ANOTHER HORSE ON ONGAIT RIGHT NOW SO ITS CLEAR THAT MAURICE AND ERIC ARE WORSE THAN HIM. HOPE THEY ALL GET INVESTIGATED AND GO DOWN TOGETHER. AND I DONT WANNA HEAR THAT BULLSHIT BUYER BEWARD. WHEN YOU HAVE POND SCUM AS LOW AS ONGAIT AND ERV, THESE ARE SOME EVIL CHEATING POS SCUMBAGS.

I'm in full support of your statements here. But as with any so called "auction" its buyer beware. If they were internet intelligent they could require date and time stamped photos. Problem solved.

[LAW AND ORDER]

I'm in full support of your statements here. But as with any so called "auction" its buyer beware. If they were internet intelligent they could require date and time stamped photos. Problem solved.

I AGREE BUT SHOULD A BUYER REALLY HAVE TO GO THROUGH ALL OF THAT? I MEAN CANT THERE BE JUST A LITTLE TRUST AMONG PEOPLE ANYMORE? I BLAME ONGAIT BECAUSE THEY REALLY COULD STOP THAT SHIT IF THEY WANTED TO. THINK ABOUT THIS, HONEST ERV MIXED WITH MAURICE AND ERIC. HOW MUCH INTEGRITY YOU THINK THAT TRIO HAS?         

[Generation XYZ]

I AGREE BUT SHOULD A BUYER REALLY HAVE TO GO THROUGH ALL OF THAT? I MEAN CANT THERE BE JUST A LITTLE TRUST AMONG PEOPLE ANYMORE? I BLAME ONGAIT BECAUSE THEY REALLY COULD STOP THAT SHIT IF THEY WANTED TO. THINK ABOUT THIS, HONEST ERV MIXED WITH MAURICE AND ERIC. HOW MUCH INTEGRITY YOU THINK THAT TRIO HAS?         

Trust? In the Harness Business?  My dear, dear friend Law and Order.

[Harness racer]

I bet Erv and the boys are laughing it up.  Remember, he is being defended by a car salesman and no one else.  I do think it's buyer beware, but this is to the point of fraud.  I bet Luc doesn't advertise his cars with year old pictures.