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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: PIGLAND on May 04, 2020, 10:32:06 AM
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at slot tracks
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How would you know what tracks will do just a loud mouth trying to start shit+s
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at slot tracks
Let us know when it's 100%.
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Wow.
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Where on Mars did u hear that?
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How would you know what tracks will do just a loud mouth trying to start shit+s
Pigland knows,trust me
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Pigland knows,trust me
He knows when Yonkers moves racing to Vernon, that will happen.
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At some whether it's mid year or into next year when casinos placed at racetracks will have new rules and regulation
with how many people can gamble revenues will be lower. When 30.8 mln people on unemployment and 7.5% of homes
in forbearance it doesn't take a rocket scientist to know purse cuts will be coming at all racino tracks. Consumers will be in
saving mode no spending or gambling mode. Many businesses will suffer.
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the people who visit the slots are unaffected by this( assuming they survive)they are largely unemployed or retired so the government handouts are actually helping them
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Won’t even pay for the pre race. Travisty
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Im not paying rent or electric and am holding onto my stimulus money for when the tracks open and im going to dump it all on the first pony simon allard drives
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the people who visit the slots are unaffected by this( assuming they survive)they are largely unemployed or retired so the government handouts are actually helping them
Nonsense. Pensions are likely to be impacted and even social security may be cut - it was already teetering on insolvency. Everybody at best is in for a haircut. Uib is being used up now - it won't last forever. If gvt loses a big chunk of revenue and builds up debt there ain't gonna be the money for people to rely on. Right now, the us is hanging on and will be ok. But if it gets worse who knows.
I don't trust much on this forum but be careful when pigland says somethen. He's not wrong often.
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theres will be no purse cuts at some tracks
.casino tracks that have built up nice purse account should see nothin or very little change
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only thing affected will be the overnight races maybe
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governments are well passed the point of trying to justify or rationalize the handouts
if they ever get through this they are not then going to turnaround and cut benefits to the people they just supported
its all monopoly money anyway at this point
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For sure purses will be down from previous levels. The casinos not operating for 2 months as of now will make a big dent in the purse account. Tracks like scioto downs are schedule to open this week. They usually are shut down for 8 months which builds their purse account. Now they are to open a meet with only 6 months worth of revenue. Miami Valley will see this same fate when they open up at the first of the year. Plus when the casinos open back up their handle will not be the same as it was.
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Brown Jug it may not be the people affected but your assuming those people will take the risk of going into a casino
which stands right above a cruise ship as a incubator. Also new restrictions maybe in place like a restaurant in phases
like 25% then 50% then maybe at best with new seating it only gets to 80%. Which no restaurant can operate at 50%
occupancy and turn a profit...good luck at 80%. Same will be the case with casinos. You can bet when numbers turn lower
it just won't be overnights but the sire stake money will be lower and cut as well as breeders awards. Anyone thinks we are
in a short term ordeal it's a pandemic that's not going away and has another wave maybe two bet we get a vaccine. This is
a crunch for all business because consumers 77% of the economy will go into saver mode not spending.
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Purses will have to take a big hit, no revenues from slots. Better to drop purses when opening, in case no casino action, maybe able to race longer before purse act empty.
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Purses will have to take a big hit, no revenues from slots. Better to drop purses when opening, in case no casino action, maybe able to race longer before purse act empty.
pls shut the fuck thk you asswhipe
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casino in hoosier wuill be open july 1
..full tilt all customers in casino to operate at full tilt
fckin hating losers cocksukcers on this worthless forum
pay attention
most slot tracks have decnt purse account saved up to have same purses or close
to operate 1 or 2 months with out being affected
first harness tracks to open
get 2 or 3 million handles nightly
I predict
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governments are well passed the point of trying to justify or rationalize the handouts
if they ever get through this they are not then going to turnaround and cut benefits to the people they just supported
its all monopoly money anyway at this point
It's true there is no political will. The one plank I always admired from the tea partiers was keeping fiscal spending under control. In usa debt has ballooned under Trump. Tax cuts were enormous and spending hasn't stopped.
This was great stimulus but it didn't leave much room if a catastrophe happened. Well the pandemic hit.
Bottom line, if gvt doesn't have $ it can't spend. It can print money but that destroys the economy and you have rampant inflation.
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EVERY TRACK AND EVERY STATE HAS AGREEMENTS AS PER THE LEGISLATION ON WHAT CAN BE INCREASED OR DECREASED AS PER THE LAW IN THE CASE OF A NATIONAL DISASTER. I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT IF POSSIBLE ALL TRACKS WILL CUT PURSES WITHIN THE LEGAL STRUCTURE IN ORDER TO PROTECT THEIR EARNINGS ON WALL STREET. THESE COMPNAIES NOW HAVE SHAREHOLDERS AND WILL EVERYTHING/AMYTHING TO PROTECT THEM.
MANY OF THE MANAGEMENT OF THESE PUBLICLY TRADED COMPNAIES RELY ON TOCK OPTIONS TO PROTECT AND TO INCREASE THEIR INCOME AND WEALTH.
THEREFORE, REST ASSURRED, THESE PUBLICLY TRADED COMPANIES ARE IN FACT EXAMINING THE CONTRACTS WITH THE HORSEMAN AND THE RELATIVE STATE AND FEDERAL LAWS TO PREPARE FOR THE RE-OPENING OF THE CASINOS/TRACKS.
NO STONE WILL REMAIN UNTURNED.
ASK THE AIRLINES OR GM---F---ETC. IF THEY ARE TRYING TO CUT COST IN ORDER TO SURVIVE!!!! FOLKS, THIS IS JUST THE BEGINNING OF THE PANDEMIC AND THE AFTER EFFECT---PURSES WILL BE CUT AND IT MAY TAKE YEARS TO REBUILD THE PURSE STRUCTURE.
ANYONE WHO CANNOT UNDERSTAND THIS IS NOT BEING REALISTIC.
THIS IS THE TRUTH!!!!! NOT A PIE IN THE SKY OR HOPIUM!! THE SHAREHOLDERS OF THESE PUBLICLY TRADED COMPANIES ARE ENTITILED TO MANAGEMENT THAT IS FULLY RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR PER SHARE EARNINGS.
PURSE WILL DROP SUBSTANTIALLY AS AFFORDED BY LAW.
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tmbz1
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HEY PUKE. You read good. NO person can be as a DUMP FUC.
Ya know with ya STUPID POSTIN. Down the line everythin might re-open.
We sick and tired of your PROCLIMATIONS everyday.
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FRANKIEPARK
Quiet
Pigeon brain
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get a life dude
ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
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Purses will have to take a big hit, no revenues from slots. Better to drop purses when opening, in case no casino action, maybe able to race longer before purse act empty.
most race for the sport of it anyway. so, stop blabbing about the purse drop.
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at slot tracks
Pigland’s past predictions have been 100% spot on, why would he be wrong now ?
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With so many problems that impact large segments of the populations, hard to see how harness racing which impacts so few will get much from any government. Might no be popular here but it’s realistic, many more places slot money could do more for more people. Lukpuke says he’s tired of what he reads, most here are tired of what he writes. Pig land should put him in time out.
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Hoosier could be the only track racing and would not do 2m let alone 3m,,,
2nd rate horses and 3rd rate drivers,,,, do they even out handle pompano ,,,, I highly doubt it
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3 million
Don’t question me
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I will lay 2/1 ,, I’ll take under 3m,,,,,I will lay 1k to your 500,,, do we have a bet
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3 million
stop it
2,5 to 3 million
u herd it first
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HEY PUKE. You read good. NO person can be as a DUMP FUC.
Ya know with ya STUPID POSTIN. Down the line everythin might re-open.
We sick and tired of your PROCLIMATIONS everyday.
Thanks for your service! tmbz1
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horses first, your overall logic is sound
however i will challenge on the casino front, yes their numbers may be down due to restricted access, social distancing etc but it wont be because the patrons dont want to go, look at the "majority" of people in some of these slots casino's, they are here for a good time not a long time, they will put on a mask and head on in
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casinos are not expected to open soon ,until then there will be no welfare . casinos also project a major loss of revenue for years to come
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The yrs to come projection is what matters. Luc keeps talking about Hoosier having money set aside. He certainly would be a good source for info regarding the tracks to which he has ties . But 2 or 3 months of racing $ is a short-term drop in the bucket.
I've noted I'm in favor of opening up some. I don't see where we have any choice. The options the country has are tough choices.
I'd note the NY Times today is citing an internal admin document that suggests an increase to 3000 deaths daily by 6-1 of this yr. That's almost a doubling what it is now. While I know many on here (unlike me) consider the times a bad source; it is the place leakers go to. And if the administration is internally thinking @ this number, it would be awful. Even not quarantining, that number would mean a lot more disruption. People ultimately decide themselves when there's no quarantine whether to go out or stay in.
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EVERY TRACK AND EVERY STATE HAS AGREEMENTS AS PER THE LEGISLATION ON WHAT CAN BE INCREASED OR DECREASED AS PER THE LAW IN THE CASE OF A NATIONAL DISASTER. I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT IF POSSIBLE ALL TRACKS WILL CUT PURSES WITHIN THE LEGAL STRUCTURE IN ORDER TO PROTECT THEIR EARNINGS ON WALL STREET. THESE COMPNAIES NOW HAVE SHAREHOLDERS AND WILL EVERYTHING/AMYTHING TO PROTECT THEM.
MANY OF THE MANAGEMENT OF THESE PUBLICLY TRADED COMPNAIES RELY ON TOCK OPTIONS TO PROTECT AND TO INCREASE THEIR INCOME AND WEALTH.
THEREFORE, REST ASSURRED, THESE PUBLICLY TRADED COMPANIES ARE IN FACT EXAMINING THE CONTRACTS WITH THE HORSEMAN AND THE RELATIVE STATE AND FEDERAL LAWS TO PREPARE FOR THE RE-OPENING OF THE CASINOS/TRACKS.
NO STONE WILL REMAIN UNTURNED.
ASK THE AIRLINES OR GM---F---ETC. IF THEY ARE TRYING TO CUT COST IN ORDER TO SURVIVE!!!! FOLKS, THIS IS JUST THE BEGINNING OF THE PANDEMIC AND THE AFTER EFFECT---PURSES WILL BE CUT AND IT MAY TAKE YEARS TO REBUILD THE PURSE STRUCTURE.
ANYONE WHO CANNOT UNDERSTAND THIS IS NOT BEING REALISTIC.
THIS IS THE TRUTH!!!!! NOT A PIE IN THE SKY OR HOPIUM!! THE SHAREHOLDERS OF THESE PUBLICLY TRADED COMPANIES ARE ENTITILED TO MANAGEMENT THAT IS FULLY RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR PER SHARE EARNINGS.
PURSE WILL DROP SUBSTANTIALLY AS AFFORDED BY LAW.
Im sorry but you do not know the law in Ohio. Each track has a contract with the horsemen. Each track is a little different in the percentages they get. At Northfield Park 9% of the casino revenue is for the horsemen 85% of that 9% is for overnight purses the other goes for thing like Sire Stakes and fairs. MGM shareholder are in no way affected by this In any more way that they are affected by the taxes the state takes from the casino. These percentages were part of the law based on the amount of money the track put in to their casino. Purses will drop because of lack of wagering in the casino.
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The yrs to come projection is what matters. Luc keeps talking about Hoosier having money set aside. He certainly would be a good source for info regarding the tracks to which he has ties . But 2 or 3 months of racing $ is a short-term drop in the bucket.
I've noted I'm in favor of opening up some. I don't see where we have any choice. The options the country has are tough choices.
I'd note the NY Times today is citing an internal admin document that suggests an increase to 3000 deaths daily by 6-1 of this yr. That's almost a doubling what it is now. While I know many on here (unlike me) consider the times a bad source; it is the place leakers go to. And if the administration is internally thinking @ this number, it would be awful. Even not quarantining, that number would mean a lot more disruption. People ultimately decide themselves when there's no quarantine whether to go out or stay in.
More fake news!
Actually the creator of the John Hopkins model/document says the projections were unfinished and "not in any way intended to be a forecast"
The press is always looking to scare the hell out of the public!
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More fake news!
Actually the creator of the John Hopkins model/document says the projections were unfinished and "not in any way intended to be a forecast"
The press is always looking to scare the hell out of the public!
tmbz1 tmbz1 tmbz1 tmbz1
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More fake news!
Actually the creator of the John Hopkins model/document says the projections were unfinished and "not in any way intended to be a forecast"
The press is always looking to scare the hell out of the public!
Might be - there's a fair amount of misinformation floating around. I don't bank anything until I'm personally satisfied. I was just reporting the times article not saying it was correct. I'm not convinced it's fake but will acknowledge it could be. I don't have a high respect for anything coming out of the white house (or folks working with them) these days.
It's (the Times piece) being reported in several major outlets though I had already seen some conservative media articles (see Washington Examiner) that supports your thinking saw.
I really hope it's not true in fact. And, as it had bothered me a bit appreciate your easing those (not eliminating) worries. It not being accurate would be what's best for my family and that's always my priority. I could give a rats ass if the orange haired clown is in Washington for another 4 yrs if in return this were to disappear.
While I am in favor of some reopening I'll be honest it unnerves me deeply. It's not only the human toll but the economic cost that our kids will absorb. So, I expect an uptick, but am worried about how bad. We do need to see and another 30 days will give us some more info.
Let me ask, you note fake news a lot - you gotta believe in something other than harness weekly. Who do you trust? If I hear Fox, I'll be disappointed. That's just the opposite version of CNN.
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At some whether it's mid year or into next year when casinos placed at racetracks will have new rules and regulation
with how many people can gamble revenues will be lower. When 30.8 mln people on unemployment and 7.5% of homes
in forbearance it doesn't take a rocket scientist to know purse cuts will be coming at all racino tracks. Consumers will be in
saving mode no spending or gambling mode. Many businesses will suffer.
Vegas is installing dividers between seats and machines, as soon as racetracks come up with a few bucks they'll have them too
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AS I STATED IN MY PREVIOUS POST THE TRACKS WILL EXAMINE THE CONTRACTS WITH THE HORSEMEN AND THE TRACKS WILL EXAMINE STATE AND FEDERAL LAWS ---PASSED BY THE LEGISLATORS ----TO FOLLOW THE LAW. THE LAW IS THE LAW. THE CASINOS ARE PUBLICLY TRADED AND WILL IN FACT DO EVERYTHING POSSIBLE WITHIN THEIR RIGHTS TO PAY OUT LESS. I ASSUME THE CONTRACTS ARE PAID ON A PERCENTAGE OF CASINO BETS/SLOTS, ETC. I REALIZE THERE IS A CONTRACTS AND THE HORSEMENT ARE PRTECTED TO A POINT.
AT 2:24 PM TODAY THE HOUSE INTRODUCED A NEW STIMULUS BILL WITH APPROXIMATELY $2,000 PER MONTH GOING TO EVERYONE AGE 16 AND ABOVE UNTIL THIS PANDEMIC ENDS. WE ARE IN A STATE OF EMERGENCY AND TRUTHFULLY NO ONE KNOWS HOW REOPENING THE STATES WILL WORK IN REGARDS TO THE VIRUS REOCCURRING ---OR JUST DISAPPEARING.
IF THEY ARE CONSIDERING A BILL SUCH AS THIS---WE OBVIOUSLY DO NOT EXPECT A RAPID RECOVERY AND THE BETTORS TO RETURN TO THE CASINOS OVERNIGHT!!! DO YOU?
THE STOCK MARKET HAS CREATED MANY MILLIONAIRES AND HAVE CREATED LOSSES IN THE TRILLIONS!!! DO YOU THINK YEARLING SALES WILL BE UP THIS YEAR AS WELL? I THINK NOT.
A NEW CHALLENGE FOR THE INDUSTRY. SURE HOPE YOU HAVE STRONG LEADERSHIP AS IT WILL BE REQUIRED FOR IT TO SURVIVE AS IT ONCE WAS!!!!
NOT LIKE THE OLD DAYS---THAT IS FOR SURE!! WHEN THE ADIOS HAD THE HILL COVERED WITH THOUSANDS !!! ROOSEVELT HAD STANDING ROOM ONLY !!! POMPANI HAD STANLEY DANCER AND BILL HAUGHTON WITH OVER HUNDRED EACH ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF THE TRACK AT THE TRAINING CENTER AND DELVIN WAS STANDING ADIOS!!!
TIMES HAVE CHANGED MY FRIENDS!!!
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PLS SHUT THE FUCK UP
..THKS MANAGEMENT
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Might be - there's a fair amount of misinformation floating around. I don't bank anything until I'm personally satisfied. I was just reporting the times article not saying it was correct. I'm not convinced it's fake but will acknowledge it could be. I don't have a high respect for anything coming out of the white house (or folks working with them) these days.
It's (the Times piece) being reported in several major outlets though I had already seen some conservative media articles (see Washington Examiner) that supports your thinking saw.
I really hope it's not true in fact. And, as it had bothered me a bit appreciate your easing those (not eliminating) worries. It not being accurate would be what's best for my family and that's always my priority. I could give a rats ass if the orange haired clown is in Washington for another 4 yrs if in return this were to disappear.
While I am in favor of some reopening I'll be honest it unnerves me deeply. It's not only the human toll but the economic cost that our kids will absorb. So, I expect an uptick, but am worried about how bad. We do need to see and another 30 days will give us some more info.
Let me ask, you note fake news a lot - you gotta believe in something other than harness weekly. Who do you trust? If I hear Fox, I'll be disappointed. That's just the opposite version of CNN.
1st - If I came across as attacking you, I didn't mean to. I respect your opinion.
2nd - Who do I trust?..... I don't trust any of them!..... Years ago people reported the news.... Today its all sensationalism & everybody tells you how you should feel, and if you don't agree with them your wrong and I'm not just talking about the night time opinion people.
This happens on the left and right.
3rd - I didn't vote for Trump & I do say fake news a lot..... I watch about 50% CNN, 25% FOX & 25% the 3 major networks. Two of my favorite shows are "Smerconish" and Fareed Zakaria GPS.
4th - Every model that has come out over the last 2 months, has been wrong, they pretend they can tell us whats going to happen, but its mostly guess work.
5th - I'm truly sorry for the loss of life, but I believe millions of people are going to lose their business/life savings, and many more could lose their house. I believe future poverty & homelessness will kill more people around the world than the virus. Our last recession was 10 million unemployed, were probably closer to 40 million unemployed today.
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AS I STATED IN MY PREVIOUS POST THE TRACKS WILL EXAMINE THE CONTRACTS WITH THE HORSEMEN AND THE TRACKS WILL EXAMINE STATE AND FEDERAL LAWS ---PASSED BY THE LEGISLATORS ----TO FOLLOW THE LAW. THE LAW IS THE LAW. THE CASINOS ARE PUBLICLY TRADED AND WILL IN FACT DO EVERYTHING POSSIBLE WITHIN THEIR RIGHTS TO PAY OUT LESS. I ASSUME THE CONTRACTS ARE PAID ON A PERCENTAGE OF CASINO BETS/SLOTS, ETC. I REALIZE THERE IS A CONTRACTS AND THE HORSEMENT ARE PRTECTED TO A POINT.
AT 2:24 PM TODAY THE HOUSE INTRODUCED A NEW STIMULUS BILL WITH APPROXIMATELY $2,000 PER MONTH GOING TO EVERYONE AGE 16 AND ABOVE UNTIL THIS PANDEMIC ENDS. WE ARE IN A STATE OF EMERGENCY AND TRUTHFULLY NO ONE KNOWS HOW REOPENING THE STATES WILL WORK IN REGARDS TO THE VIRUS REOCCURRING ---OR JUST DISAPPEARING.
IF THEY ARE CONSIDERING A BILL SUCH AS THIS---WE OBVIOUSLY DO NOT EXPECT A RAPID RECOVERY AND THE BETTORS TO RETURN TO THE CASINOS OVERNIGHT!!! DO YOU?
THE STOCK MARKET HAS CREATED MANY MILLIONAIRES AND HAVE CREATED LOSSES IN THE TRILLIONS!!! DO YOU THINK YEARLING SALES WILL BE UP THIS YEAR AS WELL? I THINK NOT.
A NEW CHALLENGE FOR THE INDUSTRY. SURE HOPE YOU HAVE STRONG LEADERSHIP AS IT WILL BE REQUIRED FOR IT TO SURVIVE AS IT ONCE WAS!!!!
NOT LIKE THE OLD DAYS---THAT IS FOR SURE!! WHEN THE ADIOS HAD THE HILL COVERED WITH THOUSANDS !!! ROOSEVELT HAD STANDING ROOM ONLY !!! POMPANI HAD STANLEY DANCER AND BILL HAUGHTON WITH OVER HUNDRED EACH ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF THE TRACK AT THE TRAINING CENTER AND DELVIN WAS STANDING ADIOS!!!
TIMES HAVE CHANGED MY FRIENDS!!!
There are no federal laws governing horse racing purse accounts. The OHHA signed 10 year deals with the tracks Without the tracks the casinos in Ohio couldn't operate. So I don't know what world you're living in to think these casinos can get a law changed in a blink of an eye plus get out of a contract they signed. Also I don't see why the casinos would care in Ohio they get 66% of the winnings with 1/3 to the state. You think the state would say you're right casino operators we care about you more than the rest of the state we will give you the horseman's moneys so your shareholders will be ok. Before this would happen the state would take the money not give the casinos more money.
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casinos are not expected to open soon ,until then there will be no welfare . casinos also project a major loss of revenue for years to come
have casinos considered going nudist? - w only a mask and fanny pack? these times call for creative remedies.
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You really want to sit next to that nude old broard in a mask, diaper and oxygen tank, at the Black Jack table?
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https://www.gaming.ny.gov/gaming/index.php?ID=1
under video gaming reports you can see how ny divides the money between the state the owner and the purse accounts for every track.
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https://www.gaming.ny.gov/gaming/index.php?ID=1
under video gaming reports you can see how ny divides the money between the state the owner and the purse accounts for every track.
Sad they paid out as fast as they took it in, not a penny saved for the future.
These tracks have zero money to race for without slots and casinos are 6-8 months from resuming operations.
I dont think many tracks will ever reopen. Places like Hoosier Park have zero ability to social distance on the gaming floor.
Horsemen never cared about the fans and now they have found their free money to have dried up.
Not one track including meadowlands handles enough to race. For meadowlands to operate it would take 20 million handle. The rest of the tracks forget it.
Harness needed a contraction with the cheaters running wild for free money. This is a good time to not race and let the trash rot.
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Harness racing as we knew it is dead. Face it, it`s not just the pandemic either. The FBI drugging case will be back as well and those animal rights groups will fuel the fire to kill racing. If you are in the horse business, you might want to consider a different line of work when this is over. The states have wanted out of the racing business for years and they finally have the ammo to do it.
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1st - If I came across as attacking you, I didn't mean to. I respect your opinion.
2nd - Who do I trust?..... I don't trust any of them!..... Years ago people reported the news.... Today its all sensationalism & everybody tells you how you should feel, and if you don't agree with them your wrong and I'm not just talking about the night time opinion people.
This happens on the left and right.
3rd - I didn't vote for Trump & I do say fake news a lot..... I watch about 50% CNN, 25% FOX & 25% the 3 major networks. Two of my favorite shows are "Smerconish" and Fareed Zakaria GPS.
4th - Every model that has come out over the last 2 months, has been wrong, they pretend they can tell us whats going to happen, but its mostly guess work.
5th - I'm truly sorry for the loss of life, but I believe millions of people are going to lose their business/life savings, and many more could lose their house. I believe future poverty & homelessness will kill more people around the world than the virus. Our last recession was 10 million unemployed, were probably closer to 40 million unemployed today.
Fair enough and well said. We may not be that far apart in our views. My personal disdain for this administration is much with the guy at the helm. He rankles me on many levels deeply.
Let's hope the loosening of quarantine controls goes better than you and I expect or that some therapeutic s or a vaccine are available sooner than later.
There are already a lot of people out-of-work and small businesses shuttered. Regardless of one's world views the suffering is palpable and tough to absorb. I'm optimistic though the country will survive and thrive in the not too distant future.
Then we can have some more fun and amusement betting a few $ on the Big M and Mochalk!
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Ask Ontario if they can take the slot money away. They at least were given a subsidy. Does anyone here think the Gov of Ohio cares about harness racing? Who brings in tax dollars, harness racing or the casinos? The legislature can change the law any time they want, harness racing doesn´t have a chance lobbying against Casinos. When the indictments filter out to Ohio, like everyone thinks will happen, it will give the casinos and Gov a quick reason to rid themseives of the sponges that are harness racing.
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hawthorne and hoosier
news comin out today and tomr
probably opening before end of may for both
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the people who visit the slots are unaffected by this( assuming they survive)they are largely unemployed or retired so the government handouts are actually helping them
I doubt the unemployed will be using their stimulus checks to play slots. Besides, that money will be long spent by the time the casinos open up. As for retirees, to a certain extent, they count on dividends and savings interest for discretionary income. With dividends being cut or eliminated by many companies and interest rates at all-time lows (the 10 Year T-Bill is hovering around 6 tenths of 1 percent), there will not be much in the way of discretionary income.
People ultimately decide themselves when there's no quarantine whether to go out or stay in.
Exactly! Poll results published today indicate that the majority of Americans are not sold on specific types of businesses opening up. The business that polled the highest for opening up was Golf Courses at 41% (still way less than half). Dine-In Restaurants at 26% and Movie Theaters was the lowest at 18%. Casinos and Race tracks were not on the list but outside of plopsters, what do you think they would have polled at?
The bottom line is be patient tmbz1
OR be a patient! :(
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just a few comments
to compare racing handles and attendance today versus the "good old days" is illogical
back then there was no competition, only vegas and new jersey had any casinos and legal sports betting was no existent and you had to go to the races to see them not watch on your phone or computer, so of course horse racing should get some slots revenue since everyone knew once they were set up on the tracks grounds they would take revenue away, remember especially initially the casinos needed the tracks to get them set up , that was their path of least resistance
as for purses etc going forward , none of us know, we will just have to wait and see and i suspect it will vary by region etc
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It seems like some of the tracks are likely to race with the grandstand closed at least initially. Be nice if some of the tracks put a little more into their simulcast product... the production quality of some places is truly craptacular. Astonishing that Cal X who is partnered with TVG is so bad, you'd think them out of everyone would have slick production.
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Sad they paid out as fast as they took it in, not a penny saved for the future.
These tracks have zero money to race for without slots and casinos are 6-8 months from resuming operations.
I dont think many tracks will ever reopen. Places like Hoosier Park have zero ability to social distance on the gaming floor.
Horsemen never cared about the fans and now they have found their free money to have dried up.
Not one track including meadowlands handles enough to race. For meadowlands to operate it would take 20 million handle. The rest of the tracks forget it.
Harness needed a contraction with the cheaters running wild for free money. This is a good time to not race and let the trash rot.
well said
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of course horse racing should get some slots revenue since everyone knew once they were set up on the tracks grounds they would take revenue away,
What about Silent Movies? ..... or, ..... Horse Drawn Carraiges?
Where is their Welfare? What makes you Special?
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What about Silent Movies? ..... or, ..... Horse Drawn Carraiges?
Where is their Welfare? What makes you Special?
How about contributing to a crooked sport? They should consider this before paying us another nickel. tmbz1
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HOOISER PARK
ANNOUCEMENT IN FEW HRS
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HOOISER PARK
ANNOUCEMENT IN FEW HRS
i will report as soon as i can
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June 16 for Hoosier
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HOOISER PARK
ANNOUCEMENT IN FEW HRS
Any minute now?
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Just announced late July or early August start
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I was told before
Sunset pacific time
I was told that
I’m putting pressure to make breaking news
Handle will be 3 million
every knight
They mite be only game in the country
For two months
PIGLAND U MISS TRACE DONT CHA
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Just announced late July or early August start
Be quiet.
Fake news
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RP says late July earliest
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RP says late July earliest
HES IN FLORIDA
IM HERE IN ANDERSON
EATING SUSHI
WHEN U SEE RP
ASK HIM HOW GOOD THE ITALIAN STUFF I GOT HIM WAS
ALL HOME MADE,,
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He’s in Indiana,,,, and never heard of you
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Racing for blankets and food vouchers. Harness racing welfare. Businesses change some survive some do NOT.
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Very bleak outlook it seems
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He’s in Indiana,,,, and never heard of you
ARE U KIDDING ,,
MP AND RP ...HAVE DINNER WITH US WHEN WE THERE
THE TABLE U SAT WITH US ,,NEXT TABLE IS HIS TABLE
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ARE U KIDDING ,,
MP AND RP ...HAVE DINNER WITH US WHEN WE THERE
THE TABLE U SAT WITH US ,,NEXT TABLE IS HIS TABLE
ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
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now do you believe me
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now do you believe me
YES SIR. Always have !!!!!!!
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YES SIR. Always have !!!!!!!
tmbz1
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now do you believe me
No.
But you go ahead and take your fake victory lap, boy.
You deserve it.