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Title: Change Harness Racing Forever
Post by: thedoctor on March 20, 2022, 10:08:05 AM
Everyone agrees something has to change in order for this sport to survive.  I have a novel idea that should change things for the better of the breed.

Get rid of hobbles both trotting hobbles and pacing hobbles.

It will most definitely slow things up in the long run allow horses to stay sounder.   Lame horses would not be able to compete with help of the hobbles and real horsemen and women would have to shoe their horses correctly in order to  compete at higher levels.

Would make for much more exciting races with multiple lead changes etc.   
Title: Re: Change Harness Racing Forever
Post by: Bernie Madoff on March 20, 2022, 10:12:54 AM
Should have new fans flocking to the windows.
Title: Re: Change Harness Racing Forever
Post by: silent one on March 20, 2022, 10:38:07 AM
Everyone agrees something has to change in order for this sport to survive.  I have a novel idea that should change things for the better of the breed.

Get rid of hobbles both trotting hobbles and pacing hobbles.

It will most definitely slow things up in the long run allow horses to stay sounder.   Lame horses would not be able to compete with help of the hobbles and real horsemen and women would have to shoe their horses correctly in order to  compete at higher levels.

Would make for much more exciting races with multiple lead changes etc.   


 Here is another "novel idea" that would definitely improve the so-called sport. Death penalty for horse dopers and race fixers. Judgements could be carried out by the highest bidder, and the money they bid can go to charities. A win-win scenario.

    Sincerely, Silent One
Title: Re: Change Harness Racing Forever
Post by: COUNSELOR on March 20, 2022, 11:04:09 AM
IS UGGESTED YEARS AGO TO HAVE HE DRIVERS HANDICAPPED AND CHOSEN AT POST TIME.  IN HARNESS, DRIVERS ARE AS IMPORTANT AS THE HORSES THEY DRIVE.  PLUS MAKES A CLEANER RACE.

5 MINUTES BEFORE POST THE HORSES AND ALL DRIVES ARE PICKED VIA A COMPUTER PROGRAM.   THIS WILL CREATE PAYOFFS AS A LOTTERY.  FURTHER,THE DRIVERS WILL BE HNDICAPPED BY BETTORS.  RIGHT NOW THIS IS MUNDANE AND BORING.   THE DRIVERS ARE THE VARIABLES IN MANY RACES CREATING BORING LOW PAYOFFS.

THIS WILL WORK AND GENERATE INTEREST.  MORE IMPORTANTLY LARGE PAYOFFS!!!!  THIS WILL ATTRACT BETTORS AND WE COULD EVEN HAVE A LOTTERY DAILY NATIONWIDE.

MANY WILL LAUGH BUT I CAN ASSURE YOU THI WILL WORK.
Title: Re: Change Harness Racing Forever
Post by: caddy on March 20, 2022, 12:26:37 PM
IS UGGESTED YEARS AGO TO HAVE HE DRIVERS HANDICAPPED AND CHOSEN AT POST TIME.  IN HARNESS, DRIVERS ARE AS IMPORTANT AS THE HORSES THEY DRIVE.  PLUS MAKES A CLEANER RACE.

5 MINUTES BEFORE POST THE HORSES AND ALL DRIVES ARE PICKED VIA A COMPUTER PROGRAM.   THIS WILL CREATE PAYOFFS AS A LOTTERY.  FURTHER,THE DRIVERS WILL BE HNDICAPPED BY BETTORS.  RIGHT NOW THIS IS MUNDANE AND BORING.   THE DRIVERS ARE THE VARIABLES IN MANY RACES CREATING BORING LOW PAYOFFS.

THIS WILL WORK AND GENERATE INTEREST.  MORE IMPORTANTLY LARGE PAYOFFS!!!!  THIS WILL ATTRACT BETTORS AND WE COULD EVEN HAVE A LOTTERY DAILY NATIONWIDE.

MANY WILL LAUGH BUT I CAN ASSURE YOU THI WILL WORK.

an interesting thought for certain.  Sadly, this sport is directed by a posse of insider good old boys that insist on running it like it's 1959.  That's the way we've always done it is the mantra that will sink this sport.  The annually elected officers and committee chairs don't understand tech, for that matter - I'm not super smart on it; but, on that account, they bristle at a mere suggestion involving it.  This sport better embrace software to enhance the product and regulate it to a new millenium from the farm fields before it's too late.

COUNSELOR:  I love this idea ... BUT, any idea that promotes  a  more competitive setting is rejected instantly by the top of the board people that control the system.
Title: Re: Change Harness Racing Forever
Post by: Calhoun on March 20, 2022, 01:48:33 PM
Everyone agrees something has to change in order for this sport to survive.  I have a novel idea that should change things for the better of the breed.

Get rid of hobbles both trotting hobbles and pacing hobbles.

It will most definitely slow things up in the long run allow horses to stay sounder.   Lame horses would not be able to compete with help of the hobbles and real horsemen and women would have to shoe their horses correctly in order to  compete at higher levels.

Would make for much more exciting races with multiple lead changes etc.
If you are over 75 years old, you don't get to make suggestions.

Except for what color jello you'd like at dinner.
Title: Re: Change Harness Racing Forever
Post by: Mr.Turnpike on March 20, 2022, 02:57:41 PM
Here’s idea only driver that wins race gets paid
Title: Re: Change Harness Racing Forever
Post by: PIGLAND on March 20, 2022, 09:52:06 PM
i suggest drivers not allowed to have breakfest together
Title: Re: Change Harness Racing Forever
Post by: seriously on March 20, 2022, 10:19:39 PM
It seems like most of you are pointed in the right direction

Driver

Try another solution, it is quite obvious and simple and would change the game drastically.
Title: Re: Change Harness Racing Forever
Post by: Jazzman on March 20, 2022, 10:48:50 PM
limit number of drives to half the card break up the click give more drivers a chance. drivers wouldnt lose that much they would choose the livest mounts and give up the rest
Title: Re: Change Harness Racing Forever
Post by: mwins on March 21, 2022, 08:54:03 AM
I guess we will do away with Pick 4s and 5s.

Serious gamblers aren,t betting on these with no clue as to who is driving their horses.

Draw drivers 5 mins to post? Meadowlands and Mohawk have unreasonable lag times now. Imagine what they would be like under this scenario lmao.
Title: Re: Change Harness Racing Forever
Post by: chief yogi on March 21, 2022, 02:12:07 PM
i would not bet much on anything without knowing who is driving. dd,pick3,4,5,6 whatever i would stop playing.
Title: Re: Change Harness Racing Forever
Post by: Brkn Headpole on March 22, 2022, 07:10:11 AM
Here is another "novel idea" that would definitely improve the so-called sport. Death penalty for horse dopers and race fixers. Judgements could be carried out by the highest bidder, and the money they bid can go to charities. A win-win scenario.

    Sincerely, Silent One

Move all racing to South Carolina, they just reinstated the death penalty by firing squad.
Title: Re: Change Harness Racing Forever
Post by: Emperor Dapple on March 22, 2022, 07:50:11 AM
i suggest drivers not allowed to have breakfest together

Breakfast at track kitchen was always my favorite part of the day
Title: Re: Change Harness Racing Forever
Post by: Superfecta on March 22, 2022, 08:12:30 AM
Breakfast at track kitchen was always my favorite part of the day

Breakfast with John Gilmour and Dave Marshall was always at The Round Robin at 6:30 AM.
Title: Re: Change Harness Racing Forever
Post by: The Exporter on March 22, 2022, 08:36:57 AM
Move all racing to South Carolina, they just reinstated the death penalty by firing squad.

It would not accomplish much as, they only kill Black people.
Title: Re: Change Harness Racing Forever
Post by: Emperor Dapple on March 22, 2022, 08:44:12 AM
Breakfast with John Gilmour and Dave Marshall was always at The Round Robin at 6:30 AM.
 

Two very likable guys for sure

Title: Re: Change Harness Racing Forever
Post by: Carnival People on March 28, 2022, 07:33:05 AM
Taking the hobbles off pacers?   You will be having 200 qualifiers per week.  This is moronic.    Take hobbles off of trotters and you won't fill any trot races.   Moronic.
Title: Re: Change Harness Racing Forever
Post by: Calhoun on March 29, 2022, 12:44:26 PM
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Title: Re: Change Harness Racing Forever
Post by: LUCPARK on March 29, 2022, 01:04:56 PM
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dont allow pigeons to own horses ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: Change Harness Racing Forever
Post by: Calhoun on March 29, 2022, 01:55:27 PM
dont allow pigeons to own horses ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Well, Pigeon Jim Bafia says he has more skin in the game than me. 

He says that makes him better than me. 

Maybe he's right.

I've never known the feeling of pride he must have had watching his homebred ... Photo Image  - who he lost $150k on - in his final race ...limping around the track ... getting beat by 20 lengths at Puducah.

Hell, I don't even know where Paducah is.

 



Title: Re: Change Harness Racing Forever
Post by: caddy on March 29, 2022, 06:28:47 PM
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