Michelle Crawford - great judge of character

[Miguel_Sanchez]

Oh poor Michelle doesn't know anything.  The Queen of Harness Racing is completely innocent. 

[Grandstand Handicapper]

The famous viral video of Navarro was 2016, he got put on probation by the track. he got popped at monmouth with a positive summer, 2017
Neither of these incidents raised any questions for Ms crawford?

I agree regarding Navarro and Servis. To me that wasn't where there's smoke there's fire, that was more the fire was burning, but you just couldn't see it. A friend of mine, who is a professional t-bred bettor said there were just "too many" incidents where horses got too much better and faster it just wasn't feasible. But in harness racing, what is too much, or too much better or faster. I've used high percentage trainers for many years. Several of them have had a positive test. So where, and with who, do you draw the line. Let's face it, if a trainer is racing on hay, oats, and water, they are at a competitive disadvantage. Is anything race day too much? Why aren't vets banned from the grounds on race day? How much is too much?

[rainman2]

I agree regarding Navarro and Servis. To me that wasn't where there's smoke there's fire, that was more the fire was burning, but you just couldn't see it. A friend of mine, who is a professional t-bred bettor said there were just "too many" incidents where horses got too much better and faster it just wasn't feasible. But in harness racing, what is too much, or too much better or faster. I've used high percentage trainers for many years. Several of them have had a positive test. So where, and with who, do you draw the line. Let's face it, if a trainer is racing on hay, oats, and water, they are at a competitive disadvantage. Is anything race day too much? Why aren't vets banned from the grounds on race day? How much is too much?

See Seldon Ledford!   I'm sure there are others too!

https://www.espn.com/espn/wire/_/section/horse/id/2741685

[Locked in with pace]

They have invested big money in the industry. Al seems like the quiet one whom you rarely hear from but she definitely likes to be seen and heard from.

Curious about who makes the decisions about what trainers they use. Their list is definitely tainted.

[Generation XYZ]

See Seldon Ledford!   I'm sure there are others too!

https://www.espn.com/espn/wire/_/section/horse/id/2741685

Funny Article Considering Howard Taylor is on the list for the very same reasons, as his client(s).

[rainman2]

OK, so of those listed which are on the OK list and which are on the not OK list?

Better yet, why don't you make a list for all of us!  You seem to have so much more knowledge than the rest of us on horseplop!

Start your list at your earliest opportunity!

Thank you

[Grandstand Handicapper]

Better yet, why don't you make a list for all of us!  You seem to have so much more knowledge than the rest of us on horseplop!

Start your list at your earliest opportunity!

Thank you

Where did I claim to know anything? You commented that you've been on the ownership side for almost 20 years, and a fan/bettor since the 1980’s, so I asked you. You referenced ‘inflated’ trainers percentages, and "stories" and "word of mouth" -- and you ended up by referencing confirmed and/or rumor and that even you figure out who you would buy/claim a horse from and what trainers you would actually use.

But, your above answer with a personal attack tells EVERYTHING about what you know. Thanks for making my point. Tell your story walking and have a great day!

[Grandstand Handicapper]

She is guilty like every breeder of wanting to sell big ticket yearlings. She also wants to play the game at the highest level, wants attention for her and her farm, and she wants trainers with big money as her biggest and best clients. Like I said, she is still a newbie. She'll learn, LOL. If she is guilty of colluding, buying, knowing, partnering, or whatever, with trainers, and with drugs, like any of them, she should be banned from the business.

[rainman2]

She is guilty like every breeder of wanting to sell big ticket yearlings. She also wants to play the game at the highest level, wants attention for her and her farm, and she wants trainers with big money as her biggest and best clients. Like I said, she is still a newbie. She'll learn, LOL. If she is guilty of colluding, buying, knowing, partnering, or whatever, with trainers, and with drugs, like any of them, she should be banned from the business.

Many do it ‘more legitimately’ than others on this side of the fence. FYI,  didn’t the Simpson’s do their own work at Hanover years ago??