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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: Miguel_Sanchez on November 03, 2023, 09:49:09 PM
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Let’s see she is connected to Surick, Jen Bon Bon, Oaks, Navarro, Howard Taylor & Fishman. If I were top trainer I wouldn’t touch a horse for her. She’s the black cat. Train for her and next your implicated in a scandal and she runs for the hills with her money and un friends you. Wonder how many calls she has made to Surick Oaks and Navarro? Maybe she’s on the feds side? ngc3 ngc3
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Wasn't she the one running to the Hill lobbying to protect the horses. The ones who claim they are there to help often are the ones who are the abusers.
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U idiots
She just won a BREEDERS crown last week
Why don’t u guys just go away
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U idiots
She just won a BREEDERS crown last week
Why don’t u guys just go away
So what? She used Oakes as her trainer and how many races were won illegally? How many Breeders Crown winners or participants are drug free? From 2016, 7 years ago: The Crawfords ended up purchasing two-year-old Bettor's Delight- Triplet Hanover filly Traceuse Hanover for $25,000 and bought Hillsonator 50/ 50 with trainer Chris Oakes for $72,000. Chris (Oakes) called me up and he said, 'I've watched this colt and talked to a few people and I think he'd be a really good addition. He, obviously, could race and travel around with Homicide Hunter. I really like him, would you guys be interested? So, we took half of him and Chris took the other half,' Michelle said.
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How many of the records of any of Oakes horses are to bebelieved. ZERO She's just a POS, gotta get her pic taken. Like it to be a mug shot.
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nice tits
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At first thought, just a disgrace that they are name sponsors at these tracks on big nights, 'BUT' on 2nd thought, maybe that makes them the perfect spokesman for harness racing, the way things are looking. By the way, what's so hot about fake tits?? 11.wp
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She's just a POS, gotta get her pic taken. Like it to be a mug shot.
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Remember her is some recent big race winners circles with her red dress and six inch or more platforms towering above everybody else in the photo. Queen Michelle has to be the center of attention.
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So what? She used Oakes as her trainer and how many races were won illegally? How many Breeders Crown winners or participants are drug free? From 2016, 7 years ago: The Crawfords ended up purchasing two-year-old Bettor's Delight- Triplet Hanover filly Traceuse Hanover for $25,000 and bought Hillsonator 50/ 50 with trainer Chris Oakes for $72,000. Chris (Oakes) called me up and he said, 'I've watched this colt and talked to a few people and I think he'd be a really good addition. He, obviously, could race and travel around with Homicide Hunter. I really like him, would you guys be interested? So, we took half of him and Chris took the other half,' Michelle said.
Pay no attention to Luc, he thinks everyone is a clean Christian.
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Remember her is some recent big race winners circles with her red dress and six inch or more platforms towering above everybody else in the photo. Queen Michelle has to be the center of attention.
Female Jerry Silva
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Let’s see she is connected to Surick, Jen Bon Bon, Oaks, Navarro, Howard Taylor & Fishman. If I were top trainer I wouldn’t touch a horse for her. She’s the black cat. Train for her and next your implicated in a scandal and she runs for the hills with her money and un friends you. Wonder how many calls she has made to Surick Oaks and Navarro? Maybe she’s on the feds side? ngc3 ngc3
You left out Jason Servus
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Female Jerry Silva
The old porn peddler before he changed his name to Jerry Silva and started suppling nursing homes.
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At first thought, just a disgrace that they are name sponsors at these tracks on big nights, 'BUT' on 2nd thought, maybe that makes them the perfect spokesman for harness racing, the way things are looking. By the way, what's so hot about fake tits?? 11.wp
When you wear 6” stilettos and play the part well!!
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She definitely thinks more of herself than her husband does. After all isn’t he banging someone else.
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One of the most vulgar and vile individuals to ever grace the planet. Has used every criminal in both games to train her horses. Is an absolute fraud and a phony.
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She definitely thinks more of herself than her husband does. After all isn’t he banging someone else.
Yes, he's traded leather face in, for a much younger model. Much younger. Good for him. handbag head is tough to stomach once you look above the tits.
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She is not the first one to boink the boss and hit the jackpot. How about their champion Thoroughbred, Shancelot ? The fastest thing on the planet while under the medications of Jorge Navarro. After finishing second in the Breeders Cup Sprint, the indictments came down and they gave him to Steve "The Assman". Asmussen could not get him to go and he retired to stud.
Now the T-bred people may be a bit more savvy as his first crop this year of less than 20 tearlings averaged about $25K. Nice job of managing the fastest horse on the planet.
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She is not the first one to boink the boss and hit the jackpot. How about their champion Thoroughbred, Shancelot ? The fastest thing on the planet while under the medications of Jorge Navarro. After finishing second in the Breeders Cup Sprint, the indictments came down and they gave him to Steve "The Assman". Asmussen could not get him to go and he retired to stud.
Now the T-bred people may be a bit more savvy as his first crop this year of less than 20 tearlings averaged about $25K. Nice job of managing the fastest horse on the planet.
She is no judge of horse flesh. maybe Jersey house wife apparel, but not horses. Its a job her husband gave her to make herself useful. ngc3
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and we have industry leaders that fall over Crawford Farms..... Money talks and LET THE BULLSHIT WALK
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Michelle Crawfords tits are fake, her eyelashes are fake. her old grey waxed box is fake, and her black receded hair is fake. Why is anyone to believe she is real about anything??? shes a cum drinking scum that pretends to be an industry pilliar. If you bank Peck how sane are you?
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Like every breeder, she wants the people with the big money as clients, buyers of her yearlings. She gets to them through high percentage, winning trainers, who have big bankrolls at the yearling sales. So she's going after them. In doing so, you end up being next to some nefarious people. Hence, her association with Jorge Navarro. She's still a newbie. She'll learn, LOL. They always do. It's just a question of how much it's going to cost her, LOL.
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Why not get this Bitch on 60 minutes? ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 Ask her why she employed Servis, Navarro, Oaks and Surick.
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Aside from an owner being in collusion with the trainer, how do you know? Some owners employ trainers who win. Some owners employ high percentage trainers. Trainers who win and have a high win percentage tend to attract owners. So, what does the owner know? If you are an owner and you send a horse to Brett Pelling, what do you know? Linda Toscano? Steve Elliott? Tony Alagna? I believe they all have at least one positive test on their record, so what do you do and what do you know? Do you look at the offense and decide? How do you quantify who it's OK to give a horse to and who it is not?
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Aside from an owner being in collusion with the trainer, how do you know? Some owners employ trainers who win. Some owners employ high percentage trainers. Trainers who win and have a high win percentage tend to attract owners. So, what does the owner know? If you are an owner and you send a horse to Brett Pelling, what do you know? Linda Toscano? Steve Elliott? Tony Alagna? I believe they all have at least one positive test on their record, so what do you do and what do you know? Do you look at the offense and decide? How do you quantify who it's OK to give a horse to and who it is not?
I’ve been on the ownership part of this business for a touch under 20 years and a fan/bettor since the 1980’s. Only over the last handful of years you could see how ‘inflated’ many trainers percentages actually were. Also over time you found out the actual ‘stories’ of what actually happened via USTA rulings as well as other things by ‘word of mouth’—confirmed and/or rumor. Even I can figure out who I would buy/claim a horse from and what trainers I would actually use today.
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I’ve been on the ownership part of this business for a touch under 20 years and a fan/bettor since the 1980’s. Only over the last handful of years you could see how ‘inflated’ many trainers percentages actually were. Also over time you found out the actual ‘stories’ of what actually happened via USTA rulings as well as other things by ‘word of mouth’—confirmed and/or rumor. Even I can figure out who I would buy/claim a horse from and what trainers I would actually use today.
OK, so of those listed which are on the OK list and which are on the not OK list?
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OK, so of those listed which are on the OK list and which are on the not OK list?
The famous viral video of Navarro was 2016, he got put on probation by the track. he got popped at monmouth with a positive summer, 2017
Neither of these incidents raised any questions for Ms crawford?
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OK, so of those listed which are on the OK list and which are on the not OK list?
Please be patient. Hopefully some individuals on horseplop will chime in on this. FYI, a handful of name have already been mentioned on the harness side as well as the thoroughbred side.
Thank you for asking your question on this.
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MICHELLE IS GREAT PEOPLE I THINK SHES GROOVY ;D
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The famous viral video of Navarro was 2016, he got put on probation by the track. he got popped at monmouth with a positive summer, 2017
Neither of these incidents raised any questions for Ms crawford?
This is why she employed them, these people had the real good gas. Her mother in law has horses with Gates he ain't got no gas. I know her horses (Michelle Crawford) were shipped to tracks with loaded needles and syringes to be given on race day.
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This is why she employed them, these people had the real good gas. Her mother in law has horses with Gates he ain't got no gas. I know her horses (Michelle Crawford) were shipped to tracks with loaded needles and syringes to be given on race day.
Yes. I was replying to the poster who was asking how she would know he was trouble. The guy was on probation for screaming and yelling on widely publicized viral video that he is the juice man from the track bar. Then, he gets popped. Anyone employing. Him after all that craziness can't claim babe in the woods
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Oh poor Michelle doesn't know anything. The Queen of Harness Racing is completely innocent. ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
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The famous viral video of Navarro was 2016, he got put on probation by the track. he got popped at monmouth with a positive summer, 2017
Neither of these incidents raised any questions for Ms crawford?
I agree regarding Navarro and Servis. To me that wasn't where there's smoke there's fire, that was more the fire was burning, but you just couldn't see it. A friend of mine, who is a professional t-bred bettor said there were just "too many" incidents where horses got too much better and faster it just wasn't feasible. But in harness racing, what is too much, or too much better or faster. I've used high percentage trainers for many years. Several of them have had a positive test. So where, and with who, do you draw the line. Let's face it, if a trainer is racing on hay, oats, and water, they are at a competitive disadvantage. Is anything race day too much? Why aren't vets banned from the grounds on race day? How much is too much?
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I agree regarding Navarro and Servis. To me that wasn't where there's smoke there's fire, that was more the fire was burning, but you just couldn't see it. A friend of mine, who is a professional t-bred bettor said there were just "too many" incidents where horses got too much better and faster it just wasn't feasible. But in harness racing, what is too much, or too much better or faster. I've used high percentage trainers for many years. Several of them have had a positive test. So where, and with who, do you draw the line. Let's face it, if a trainer is racing on hay, oats, and water, they are at a competitive disadvantage. Is anything race day too much? Why aren't vets banned from the grounds on race day? How much is too much?
See Seldon Ledford! I'm sure there are others too!
https://www.espn.com/espn/wire/_/section/horse/id/2741685
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They have invested big money in the industry. Al seems like the quiet one whom you rarely hear from but she definitely likes to be seen and heard from.
Curious about who makes the decisions about what trainers they use. Their list is definitely tainted.
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See Seldon Ledford! I'm sure there are others too!
https://www.espn.com/espn/wire/_/section/horse/id/2741685
Funny Article Considering Howard Taylor is on the list for the very same reasons, as his client(s).
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OK, so of those listed which are on the OK list and which are on the not OK list?
Better yet, why don't you make a list for all of us! You seem to have so much more knowledge than the rest of us on horseplop!
Start your list at your earliest opportunity!
Thank you
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Better yet, why don't you make a list for all of us! You seem to have so much more knowledge than the rest of us on horseplop!
Start your list at your earliest opportunity!
Thank you
Where did I claim to know anything? You commented that you've been on the ownership side for almost 20 years, and a fan/bettor since the 1980’s, so I asked you. You referenced ‘inflated’ trainers percentages, and "stories" and "word of mouth" -- and you ended up by referencing confirmed and/or rumor and that even you figure out who you would buy/claim a horse from and what trainers you would actually use.
But, your above answer with a personal attack tells EVERYTHING about what you know. Thanks for making my point. Tell your story walking and have a great day!
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She is guilty like every breeder of wanting to sell big ticket yearlings. She also wants to play the game at the highest level, wants attention for her and her farm, and she wants trainers with big money as her biggest and best clients. Like I said, she is still a newbie. She'll learn, LOL. If she is guilty of colluding, buying, knowing, partnering, or whatever, with trainers, and with drugs, like any of them, she should be banned from the business.
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She is guilty like every breeder of wanting to sell big ticket yearlings. She also wants to play the game at the highest level, wants attention for her and her farm, and she wants trainers with big money as her biggest and best clients. Like I said, she is still a newbie. She'll learn, LOL. If she is guilty of colluding, buying, knowing, partnering, or whatever, with trainers, and with drugs, like any of them, she should be banned from the business.
Many do it ‘more legitimately’ than others on this side of the fence. FYI, didn’t the Simpson’s do their own work at Hanover years ago??