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Title: The Burke Brigade now racing horses at-----
Post by: rainman2 on March 26, 2024, 11:14:12 PM
Rosecroft with Shaun Callahan 'listed' as the trainer?
Title: Re: The Burke Brigade now racing horses at-----
Post by: MCR on March 27, 2024, 05:28:12 PM
And looks like Oak Grove now as well
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Post by: oh canada on March 27, 2024, 08:57:24 PM
The Brigade is sweeping the Nation !! We cant stop it, we can only hope to contain it !!
Title: Re: The Burke Brigade now racing horses at-----
Post by: Locked in with pace on March 29, 2024, 10:29:47 AM
Does it surprise you? Whenever a track opens with solid purses, he's there. It truly is amazing. He's not getting any younger and getting help has to be tough. Now he has numerous stables set up across the country, It looks like he uses locals when he doesn't have the ability to build a stable with added staff. The bigger question is when does he slow down? I guess never.
Title: Re: The Burke Brigade now racing horses at-----
Post by: onabrake on March 29, 2024, 10:44:15 AM
Oak Grove purses are crazy, just a long ship.
Title: Re: The Burke Brigade now racing horses at-----
Post by: rainman2 on March 29, 2024, 10:56:34 AM
Oak Grove purses are crazy, just a long ship.

Long ship?

From what starting points?
Title: Re: The Burke Brigade now racing horses at-----
Post by: Way to go on March 29, 2024, 11:43:37 AM
raced at Dover under Nick Callahan
Title: Re: The Burke Brigade now racing horses at-----
Post by: Grandstand Handicapper on March 29, 2024, 11:58:20 AM
It's a business. Period. Business decision. They are going to race wherever it is economically feasible --- and profitable --- to do so, and if the business model works for them, they'll race there. I don't expect them to apply for 20 stalls and race at Monticello any time soon, LOL, but show me a track where they can get stalls or rent a nearby training center, with a good purse structure, late closers, sire stakes, whatever -- and it wouldn't surprise me if they race there.
Title: Re: The Burke Brigade now racing horses at-----
Post by: Brown jug on March 29, 2024, 01:59:22 PM
brilliant
good purses and slack competition of horses
also look at the trainers he is in against
its called stealing
Title: Re: The Burke Brigade now racing horses at-----
Post by: Mailbox Money on March 30, 2024, 05:26:02 PM
This type of thing will usually be a precursor for "THE BLAME GAME" b ehind closed doors. Some of the employees are probably getting the "side eye " from the inner core of the operation. Questions have already begun due to the tension in the barn. You can bet your bottom dollar that there already is an internal short list of probable contaminates! If things don't get handled properly, the bus just might go off the cliff!  11.wp
Title: Re: The Burke Brigade now racing horses at-----
Post by: jupiter on March 30, 2024, 06:11:45 PM
Nothing changes, everybody thinks this is the start of the demise of the Brigade. AGAIN !!!! Believe me if anyone believes that they're stupid. Nobody knows shit, cause it's not happening. It won't be over till Ronnie walks away, he's the only one that can't be replaced.
Title: Re: The Burke Brigade now racing horses at-----
Post by: Stan durbread on March 30, 2024, 06:32:09 PM
Nobody knows shit because Micky learned his lessons years ago before he listed Ron as trainer. The vet does the prerace and has as much too lose as Burke. If something needs to be given by an assistant trainer or groom it is in a bottle labeled Banamine.
Title: Re: The Burke Brigade now racing horses at-----
Post by: jupiter on March 31, 2024, 11:26:51 AM
What Asst Trainer or Groom? None have come forward. Ronnie was running the barn when Sr was still listed as trainer. They started getting hot when Ronnie got really interested. Sr. loved it, he could be involved and really loved the publicity. It was never a big stable, never had a ton of help, but the help were loyal and worked their asses off. None of the Burke's are stupid but Ronnie is the brains behind the entire show. Rags to riches story.   
Title: Re: The Burke Brigade now racing horses at-----
Post by: Kirby's Ace on March 31, 2024, 12:41:20 PM
So, you own and train your horse and you get a positive as trainer but that doesn't affect you as owner?
Title: Re: The Burke Brigade now racing horses at-----
Post by: Locked in with pace on March 31, 2024, 12:51:43 PM
How much Banamine on race day results in a positive?
Title: Re: The Burke Brigade now racing horses at-----
Post by: rainman2 on March 31, 2024, 01:17:01 PM
How much Banamine on race day results in a positive?

Ask Bob Baffert!
Title: Re: The Burke Brigade now racing horses at-----
Post by: Stan durbread on April 01, 2024, 06:03:27 AM
So, you own and train your horse and you get a positive as trainer but that doesn't affect you as owner?

If you own the horses they can’t race while you are under suspension. Bout if your parents own the horses it is all good.
Title: Re: The Burke Brigade now racing horses at-----
Post by: Mailbox Money on April 01, 2024, 01:01:14 PM
The double standard in racing is sickening right now! In addition to the fact that the Bragade is able to continue racing during this suspension, how can Jeffrey ban H.T. for being on the Fish list,and allow Takter & Burkes to race there while the 2 of them are ON THE SAME FUKIN LIST??? I am starting to believe that Yimmys fast retirement was a product of Gurals inside info of the direction that the investigation was heading!! I can't wait for H.T. to enter the "list" into evidence so that the world will see all of Gurals personal trainers transactions! This is going to get big again unless H.T. takes an out of court settlement!  11.wp
Title: Re: The Burke Brigade now racing horses at-----
Post by: ROOSTER COGBURN on April 01, 2024, 01:15:48 PM
The double standard in racing is sickening right now! In addition to the fact that the Bragade is able to continue racing during this suspension, how can Jeffrey ban H.T. for being on the Fish list,and allow Takter & Burkes to race there while the 2 of them are ON THE SAME FUKIN LIST??? I am starting to believe that Yimmys fast retirement was a product of Gurals inside info of the direction that the investigation was heading!! I can't wait for H.T. to enter the "list" into evidence so that the world will see all of Gurals personal trainers transactions! This is going to get big again unless H.T. takes an out of court settlement!  11.wp

HT is only looking for a settlement to go away.
Title: Re: The Burke Brigade now racing horses at-----
Post by: dinkadoo on April 01, 2024, 01:24:12 PM
Burke has four in today at Oak grove with Devon Tharps driving for him.
Title: Re: The Burke Brigade now racing horses at-----
Post by: Mailbox Money on April 01, 2024, 01:27:10 PM
Jeff will "cave" long before he writes a six digit check to Howard! When this gets to the hearing stages H.T. will have no problem getting back to racing unless everyone else on the list is also banded! If these pretences are upheld Gural would be to eliminate most competition and perhaps win the Hambo for himself or Ake against a field of longshot contenders! The real show is just about to begin, so grab some snacks and fine tune your monitor! 73cv.2 11.wp tmbz1
Title: Re: The Burke Brigade now racing horses at-----
Post by: dinkadoo on April 02, 2024, 11:28:52 AM
Day 2 of the Oak Grove meet.

I see Burke is racing a lot of East Coast horses brought in -- Where do these horses train out of ?
Title: Re: The Burke Brigade now racing horses at-----
Post by: hoosierboy on April 02, 2024, 11:45:15 AM
The double standard in racing is sickening right now! In addition to the fact that the Bragade is able to continue racing during this suspension, how can Jeffrey ban H.T. for being on the Fish list,and allow Takter & Burkes to race there while the 2 of them are ON THE SAME FUKIN LIST??? I am starting to believe that Yimmys fast retirement was a product of Gurals inside info of the direction that the investigation was heading!! I can't wait for H.T. to enter the "list" into evidence so that the world will see all of Gurals personal trainers transactions! This is going to get big again unless H.T. takes an out of court settlement!  11.wp



No way HT is looking for settlement this how now turned into a who has a bigger dick contest.  Not saying it will be this time but eventually Gural is meet his match
Title: Re: The Burke Brigade now racing horses at-----
Post by: Kirby's Ace on April 02, 2024, 11:57:16 AM
If you own the horses they can’t race while you are under suspension. Bout if your parents own the horses it is all good.

So, Burkes stables is not Ron Burke or at least a part of?
Title: Re: The Burke Brigade now racing horses at-----
Post by: Stan durbread on April 02, 2024, 12:16:38 PM
So, Burkes stables is not Ron Burke or at least a part of?

No. It is Sylvia Burke and Weaver
Title: Re: The Burke Brigade now racing horses at-----
Post by: jupiter on April 03, 2024, 10:04:18 AM
Weaver is not an owner of the Burke stable.
Title: Re: The Burke Brigade now racing horses at-----
Post by: Grandstand Handicapper on April 03, 2024, 10:17:08 AM
No way HT is looking for settlement this how now turned into a who has a bigger dick contest.  Not saying it will be this time but eventually Gural is meet his match

I agree about HT at this point. This time, next time, whatever, Gural is light years ahead of HT as a businessman. Light years "smarter" and more experienced, more depth, scope, etc. HT will have ego step in the way. Gural, no. I don't think most people realize how smart Gural is, what he's done in the business world, etc. It's easy to judge a fight when you only see parts of it and that's how most people judge it. Personally, no, I do not believe or agree with every decision Gural has made or every action he's taken, or not taken for that matter.
Title: Re: The Burke Brigade now racing horses at-----
Post by: Stan durbread on April 03, 2024, 12:54:10 PM
Weaver is not an owner of the Burke stable.

According to the USTA they are. I posted a screenshot of the members of Burke Racing Stable the last time this came up.
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