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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: Cleanupindustry on March 15, 2024, 12:02:09 PM
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Isn’t it funny these 2 keep getting positives and days and keep racing And racing and racing. Laughing at everyone saying they finally caught up to us. As their bank accounts keep getting higher and higher
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wouldnt it e something if the feds have moles in these operations. i can see a it now. a netflix documentary on how animals were abused and how these trainers defrauded the public and made millions doing it.
better take a look around ronnie and jen jen. do you know your help? are you sure?
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I wish the feds would use both of them as examples life in prison without parole and see if this shit still continues. Start with these too assholes Make them examples!!!!
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arm and hammer ron take a look and your employee roster. do you trust them all? let us know.
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god point
it does raise a question or two
lets "assume" that burke is giving the horses something outside the legal rules
he races lots of horses and at many different tracks and has them stabled at these tracks or close to them ( hoosier, northfield etc )
so assume someone other than ron or the family has to give these horses whatever it is they get
would these groom/assistant treainers not be aware of what they are giving the horses
if so they could
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oops, just to finish off
if so could they not just go out and do it themselves or does burke pay them hush money
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Wondering how many more positives these 2 have in the pipeline (no pun intended) .
Can someone tell me why there is such a long time before and after the appeal ? Does it take the authorities that long to buy a rug to sweep these drug related offenses under .?
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You can line up all the Burke Brigade and question them till the cows come home, they don't now anything. How long have they been under a microscope. It's not like Robinson where the help had to leave at noon and the doors closed and the "vet" work started, The Brigades doors (and windows) are open year round. Yes, they have positives, as have all the top stables in the past years. With the number of starts and the contamination issues with ship in stalls and paddocks it's not a wonder there aren't more.
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your kidding right? contamination once or maybe twice ok i get it. you have to be a fool to say all these are contamination. dont be naive. maybe its a vet working for the feds that would be even better. sooner or later they will be brought down. may not be today or this year or next 5 yrs. i believe he will be out of racing not by choice and with a tarnisehd record. put an asterix next to his name.
look out for the mole vet ronnie. who is it? ronnie himself cant treat all these horses. his family cant treat all these horses all over the country. someone knows something. who is it?
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You can line up all the Burke Brigade and question them till the cows come home, they don't now anything. How long have they been under a microscope. It's not like Robinson where the help had to leave at noon and the doors closed and the "vet" work started, The Brigades doors (and windows) are open year round. Yes, they have positives, as have all the top stables in the past years. With the number of starts and the contamination issues with ship in stalls and paddocks it's not a wonder there aren't more.
Another post from the dark side
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There should be one big sweep of all these characters as in the past. Round them up and let them start turning on each other. The case for HISA is being made stronger and stronger with these big barns and the lack of formidable punishment. A suspension is proven in this thread as meaningless.
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👍👍👍👍👍👍
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You can line up all the Burke Brigade and question them till the cows come home, they don't now anything. How long have they been under a microscope. It's not like Robinson where the help had to leave at noon and the doors closed and the "vet" work started, The Brigades doors (and windows) are open year round. Yes, they have positives, as have all the top stables in the past years. With the number of starts and the contamination issues with ship in stalls and paddocks it's not a wonder there aren't more.
- First off it’s pretty nice that he gets two positive and is allowed to serve them concurrently, so it’s like one.
You can say the seem about Casie Coleman’ employee s too. But I will say this and it’s a fact, that day at Delaware, (Yogurtjug) when the Delaware police were sitting in the judges office while they were questioning the groom, his name escapes me , if they would have pulled out the cuffs CC secrets would have been out.
Does Burke still have all the horse return to home base every 4-6 weeks.
Number s tell the story 2004 1.4 mill in purses 1200+ starts, 2007 2500+ starts 10 mill purses. Don’t give me the training methods BS. We profected the methods in 3 yrs. Only one way to do that.
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- First off it’s pretty nice that he gets two positive and is allowed to serve them concurrently, so it’s like one.
You can say the seem about Casie Coleman’ employee s too. But I will say this and it’s a fact, that day at Delaware, (Yogurtjug) when the Delaware police were sitting in the judges office while they were questioning the groom, his name escapes me , if they would have pulled out the cuffs CC secrets would have been out.
Does Burke still have all the horse return to home base every 4-6 weeks.
Number s tell the story 2004 1.4 mill in purses 1200+ starts, 2007 2500+ starts 10 mill purses. Don’t give me the training methods BS. We profected the methods in 3 yrs. Only one way to do that.
Have pretty good knowledge many get turned out at Hanover Shoe Farm on one of the back properties.
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Another mental midget that thinks they're in the know...burks place is near the meadows it used to be Sokol's farm on top of a hill about 6-8 miles from the track.
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Start with dr bokman Remember Ledford and dr witmer. Now it’s Ron Burke and dr bokman. Throw them both in prison
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Another mental midget that thinks they're in the know...burks place is near the meadows it used to be Sokol's farm on top of a hill about 6-8 miles from the track.
Yeah I know, that’s where they all used to have to make return home every 4-6 wks.
Who’s the mental midget here you who believe s he just master every horse that walks in his barn. And the mastery took him til he was 40
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Deep In It, seems to think they go to Hanover. ngc3 Idiot
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It would be a joke for Burke to serve 2 suspensions concurrently. Michael Burke training is the same...so no difference in my opinion.
Contamination excuse is worn out in my opinion. I not sure where i heard Burke showing up at 4AM in NJ. IT could have been a Mike P video.
I thought someone said EPO could cause a DEX positive? That would explain Bon-Bon success.
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Have pretty good knowledge many get turned out at Hanover Shoe Farm on one of the back properties.
Don’t start with the BS without some proof. We all know you hate Hanover. Mr ZYZ reborn I’m guessing
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wouldnt it e something if the feds have moles in these operations. i can see a it now. a netflix documentary on how animals were abused and how these trainers defrauded the public and made millions doing it.
better take a look around ronnie and jen jen. do you know your help? are you sure?
Found this post interesting. 👍. If they figured out the moles tomorrow it would be too late. 😉
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Found this post interesting. 👍. If they figured out the moles tomorrow it would be too late. 😉
Hope you're right tmbz1
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Really, over 200 horses come in and out of the farm every 6 week, it's not feasible and not done now the barns are too busy for that not to be noticed. Maybe years ago. The name is Brown not Bokman. It is totally impossible to hide what you're talking about, how many people have come and gone in the Brigade. Has anyone heard direct knowledge of large scale doping? No, it's not happening. Someone would have talked by now. Remember this is harness racing, everybody knows everything.
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agree jupiter
that was my earlier point
there is just way too many moving parts and horses coming and going and way too many people involved
whatever it is would have to get out
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Really, over 200 horses come in and out of the farm every 6 week, it's not feasible and not done now the barns are too busy for that not to be noticed. Maybe years ago. The name is Brown not Bokman. It is totally impossible to hide what you're talking about, how many people have come and gone in the Brigade. Has anyone heard direct knowledge of large scale doping? No, it's not happening. Someone would have talked by now. Remember this is harness racing, everybody knows everything.
I've asked many of his trainers if they noticed any illegal, or unusual drugging. All have told me he's on the up and up. They all told me he wants the hell trained out of them!
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he has went unscathed for several oxycodone positives claiming "environmental contamination"
the groom pissed in the stall is a joke but he seems to get away with it
Burke* will always have an asterisk next to his name
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Also ever notice when he sells his horses, the chemists are drooling all over themselves to buy them.
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Really, over 200 horses come in and out of the farm every 6 week, it's not feasible and not done now the barns are too busy for that not to be noticed. Maybe years ago. The name is Brown not Bokman. It is totally impossible to hide what you're talking about, how many people have come and gone in the Brigade. Has anyone heard direct knowledge of large scale doping? No, it's not happening. Someone would have talked by now. Remember this is harness racing, everybody knows everything.
And Barry Bonds, Sammy Sosa & Mark Mcqurie we’re all natural home run hitters 10 yrs in to their careers until they weren’t
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Jen is a trainer on paper only. She’s only worried about Sears’ old balls!
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I wish the feds would use both of them as examples life in prison without parole and see if this shit still continues. Start with these too assholes Make them examples!!!!
As long as they get conjugal visits that mattress Jen would be ok.
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Also ever notice when he sells his horses, the chemists are drooling all over themselves to buy them.
Burke has around 80 two year olds. That is every year. The stable turnover rate is over a hundred per year. You are basing your comments on a select few in my opinion.
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When they shine that light. It will get really hot. It will be beaming on them. They will sing. Like a canary. He will be the next fishman. I will say all horses don't need pre raced. Some are just good horses. But let's not be naive. When those horses are good they get pre raced. A small percent can perform like his do without.
I don't care what the turnover rate is. Others know. It's just a matter if time. Hey will be sitting next to Seth. Coming soon on Netflix.
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Nothing to see now, ask any body who has worked for them. I know it's nuts but that's the way it is. Put them all under lights all you get is a lot of sweat.
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I think Jupiter is right on. There are so many Burke brigade employees and ex employees in circulation and I have never heard any of them slander the Burkes. Some have their bitches but none have ever told me that the Burkes are cheating. NONE!
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Really. Hahaha. If you think the Burke’s haven’t been cheating their whole career you stupider than I thought. First up no employee will see what’s going on. It will happen when everyone is gone there are so many drugs out there that can work 3 days ahead of time. So when they have detention barns set up prior night of racing. These horses already have it in their system. Let’s all wake up detention barn the night before is USELESS!!
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burke has been cheating for over 20 years
they have different rules for him because he has so many horses
no brainer