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lesstired

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What is the consensus of opinion on Trainer Allard?
« on: October 17, 2018, 08:20:01 PM »
I occasionally watch some Pocono races.....and a few YR.....


The Allard horses do jump up quite a bit at Pocono.....


not so much at YR.....


I have always had my suspicions regarding the use of designer state of the


art drugs by Allard.....but just a gut feeling.....I could be totally out to lunch.


I could not say I am 100% correct.....or even 70%.   


I hope he is clean for the sports sake......but if he does "juice" his starters....


as they say......wouldn't it eventually come to light?


He is fairly high profile......


His horses do exceptionally well at Pocono....always have a little extra "go".


Is he willing to risk his entire reputation and livelyhood to 


get into the winners circle?


And ..in the event he does use something extra......what is it?


or what could it be that would elude all the modern day testing?


Enlighten me......

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Re: What is the consensus of opinion on Trainer Allard?
« Reply #1 on: October 17, 2018, 08:35:51 PM »
currently has 4 positive tests pending lawyers just keep delaying

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Re: What is the consensus of opinion on Trainer Allard?
« Reply #2 on: October 17, 2018, 10:49:42 PM »
So why is this gentleman permitted to race in the United States....


I believe he is Canadian?



Can and would the Dept of Justice or any branch of the Federal Government intercede....


I have had my suspicions regarding Allard for years.....but donot follow


this that closely.....


His starters always seem to be  "abit sharper"  at Pocono.....


Who is the Track President.....I am going to give him a call....


seriously....not that he will ever address this topic.


Something really has to be done regarding this problem in our sport.


No?

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Re: What is the consensus of opinion on Trainer Allard?
« Reply #3 on: October 17, 2018, 11:39:22 PM »
Make your calls. Good Luck. Huge carpet in Pennsylvania.

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Re: What is the consensus of opinion on Trainer Allard?
« Reply #4 on: October 17, 2018, 11:42:02 PM »
and you havent heard of ron burke?

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Re: What is the consensus of opinion on Trainer Allard?
« Reply #5 on: October 18, 2018, 01:31:00 AM »
I am going to call the USTA President and ask him exactly what is going on

with this industry......I donot understand this......


I can understand a trainer having a test come up positive in error....once.... .


maybe twice.....give the guys a shot.......


but when certain trainers horses just seem to have super stretch energy time and time again.....and score at incrediible % 's.


u must start looking at logic....


I know detention barns are expensive to run...but maybe Allard...etc.....


should  race from a detention barn....and see if the % hold up...


If they do....they are great trainers.....and I congratulate them.....


this may not be the answer but.....something has to be done.....even if


to put the rumours to rest....


I mean...every one is innocent....until proven guilty..

maybe he is that good??????     probably not.....


Guy is guilty as sin......???     Maybe......

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Re: What is the consensus of opinion on Trainer Allard?
« Reply #6 on: October 18, 2018, 06:37:30 AM »
Calling the USTA is a total waste of your time. They are spineless and won't challenge anything because they are afraid of being sued. Just look at the drug testing limits that the states are using from the ARCI based on NO scientific evidence. What a joke. If the USTA wanted to help the industry they would have there own testing regulations based on standardbred horses for allowed medications and correct withdrawal times. Oh wait, that would cost them money so thats not going to happen. I see small stable trainers getting positive tests for 1 nanogram of robaxin which is the equivalent of a baby aspirin while others get away with high gas tests, cocaine, etc.,  because they are the big stables. As far as Rene, is he a front or the real trainer? He has been thrown out of Canada before and still continues to train horses in the United States. He is also back in Canada winning more races. He has horses trained under other trainers names and they keep getting positive tests. Just look at Dolores Basilone? Shadow trainers are a big problem in the business and everyone knows who they are. They are in place to take the fall when they get caught and then other names show up on the horses and the Beat goes on as usual. Just follow the money and the owners. If a trainer gets caught the and owners just have a new name put down as trainer and keep going. The real issue is that the horses stay in the same barn in most cases so that tells me that the real trainers are still in charge behind the scene and they never skip a beat.

Good luck in your quest.... You're going to need it. 

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Re: What is the consensus of opinion on Trainer Allard?
« Reply #7 on: October 18, 2018, 06:45:06 AM »
Are you trolling us?  No one comes to this forum and thinks that guys like Allard gives two shits about his reputation!

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Re: What is the consensus of opinion on Trainer Allard?
« Reply #8 on: October 18, 2018, 07:07:30 AM »
THEY ALL CHEAT IN ONE WAY. OR ANOTHER ESPECIALLY AT POCONO  tmbz1

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Re: What is the consensus of opinion on Trainer Allard?
« Reply #9 on: October 18, 2018, 10:20:06 AM »
Opinion of Allard ?

Someone with better knowledge
How does his horses look ?
Do they get out of the barn ?


Vast majority of trainers --- use something. Some trainers have more compounded stuff that they get their extra edge.  So -- do the horses look good ? I've seen some drug trainers that have a whole barn of skeletons standing in stalls.

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Re: What is the consensus of opinion on Trainer Allard?
« Reply #10 on: October 18, 2018, 10:23:26 AM »
I am going to call the USTA President and ask him exactly what is going on

with this industry......I donot understand this......


I can understand a trainer having a test come up positive in error....once.... .


maybe twice.....give the guys a shot.......


but when certain trainers horses just seem to have super stretch energy time and time again.....and score at incrediible % 's.


u must start looking at logic....


I know detention barns are expensive to run...but maybe Allard...etc.....


should  race from a detention barn....and see if the % hold up...


If they do....they are great trainers.....and I congratulate them.....


this may not be the answer but.....something has to be done.....even if


to put the rumours to rest....


I mean...every one is innocent....until proven guilty..

maybe he is that good??????     probably not.....


Guy is guilty as sin......???     Maybe......
Is anybody else as fucking sick of this "new" motherfucking poster as I am?

Or, is it just me?

Somebody, anybody, ban this motherfucker now.

Thanks.

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Re: What is the consensus of opinion on Trainer Allard?
« Reply #11 on: October 18, 2018, 10:35:51 AM »
Is anybody else as fucking sick of this "new" motherfucking poster as I am?

Or, is it just me?

Somebody, anybody, ban this motherfucker now.

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Re: What is the consensus of opinion on Trainer Allard?
« Reply #12 on: October 18, 2018, 11:59:35 AM »
Is anybody else as fucking sick of this "new" motherfucking poster as I am?

Or, is it just me?

Somebody, anybody, ban this motherfucker now.

Thanks.

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Re: What is the consensus of opinion on Trainer Allard?
« Reply #13 on: October 18, 2018, 12:14:17 PM »
I'D BE WILLING TO WAGER THIS NEW POSTER ISNT A NEW POSTER AT ALL.   JUDGING BY THE WRITING AND SPACING STYLE

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Re: What is the consensus of opinion on Trainer Allard?
« Reply #14 on: October 18, 2018, 01:29:49 PM »
BURKE IS IN THE STRATOSPHERE IN EARNINGS, BUT ALLARD IS RIGHT THERE WITH TAKTER, SO I'D SAY THAT HE IS SUCCESSFUL
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