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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: lesstired on October 17, 2018, 08:20:01 PM
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I occasionally watch some Pocono races.....and a few YR.....
The Allard horses do jump up quite a bit at Pocono.....
not so much at YR.....
I have always had my suspicions regarding the use of designer state of the
art drugs by Allard.....but just a gut feeling.....I could be totally out to lunch.
I could not say I am 100% correct.....or even 70%.
I hope he is clean for the sports sake......but if he does "juice" his starters....
as they say......wouldn't it eventually come to light?
He is fairly high profile......
His horses do exceptionally well at Pocono....always have a little extra "go".
Is he willing to risk his entire reputation and livelyhood to
get into the winners circle?
And ..in the event he does use something extra......what is it?
or what could it be that would elude all the modern day testing?
Enlighten me......
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currently has 4 positive tests pending lawyers just keep delaying
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So why is this gentleman permitted to race in the United States....
I believe he is Canadian?
Can and would the Dept of Justice or any branch of the Federal Government intercede....
I have had my suspicions regarding Allard for years.....but donot follow
this that closely.....
His starters always seem to be "abit sharper" at Pocono.....
Who is the Track President.....I am going to give him a call....
seriously....not that he will ever address this topic.
Something really has to be done regarding this problem in our sport.
No?
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Make your calls. Good Luck. Huge carpet in Pennsylvania.
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and you havent heard of ron burke?
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I am going to call the USTA President and ask him exactly what is going on
with this industry......I donot understand this......
I can understand a trainer having a test come up positive in error....once.... .
maybe twice.....give the guys a shot.......
but when certain trainers horses just seem to have super stretch energy time and time again.....and score at incrediible % 's.
u must start looking at logic....
I know detention barns are expensive to run...but maybe Allard...etc.....
should race from a detention barn....and see if the % hold up...
If they do....they are great trainers.....and I congratulate them.....
this may not be the answer but.....something has to be done.....even if
to put the rumours to rest....
I mean...every one is innocent....until proven guilty..
maybe he is that good?????? probably not.....
Guy is guilty as sin......??? Maybe......
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Calling the USTA is a total waste of your time. They are spineless and won't challenge anything because they are afraid of being sued. Just look at the drug testing limits that the states are using from the ARCI based on NO scientific evidence. What a joke. If the USTA wanted to help the industry they would have there own testing regulations based on standardbred horses for allowed medications and correct withdrawal times. Oh wait, that would cost them money so thats not going to happen. I see small stable trainers getting positive tests for 1 nanogram of robaxin which is the equivalent of a baby aspirin while others get away with high gas tests, cocaine, etc., because they are the big stables. As far as Rene, is he a front or the real trainer? He has been thrown out of Canada before and still continues to train horses in the United States. He is also back in Canada winning more races. He has horses trained under other trainers names and they keep getting positive tests. Just look at Dolores Basilone? Shadow trainers are a big problem in the business and everyone knows who they are. They are in place to take the fall when they get caught and then other names show up on the horses and the Beat goes on as usual. Just follow the money and the owners. If a trainer gets caught the and owners just have a new name put down as trainer and keep going. The real issue is that the horses stay in the same barn in most cases so that tells me that the real trainers are still in charge behind the scene and they never skip a beat.
Good luck in your quest.... You're going to need it.
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Are you trolling us? No one comes to this forum and thinks that guys like Allard gives two shits about his reputation!
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THEY ALL CHEAT IN ONE WAY. OR ANOTHER ESPECIALLY AT POCONO tmbz1
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Opinion of Allard ?
Someone with better knowledge
How does his horses look ?
Do they get out of the barn ?
Vast majority of trainers --- use something. Some trainers have more compounded stuff that they get their extra edge. So -- do the horses look good ? I've seen some drug trainers that have a whole barn of skeletons standing in stalls.
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I am going to call the USTA President and ask him exactly what is going on
with this industry......I donot understand this......
I can understand a trainer having a test come up positive in error....once.... .
maybe twice.....give the guys a shot.......
but when certain trainers horses just seem to have super stretch energy time and time again.....and score at incrediible % 's.
u must start looking at logic....
I know detention barns are expensive to run...but maybe Allard...etc.....
should race from a detention barn....and see if the % hold up...
If they do....they are great trainers.....and I congratulate them.....
this may not be the answer but.....something has to be done.....even if
to put the rumours to rest....
I mean...every one is innocent....until proven guilty..
maybe he is that good?????? probably not.....
Guy is guilty as sin......??? Maybe......
Is anybody else as fucking sick of this "new" motherfucking poster as I am?
Or, is it just me?
Somebody, anybody, ban this motherfucker now.
Thanks.
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Is anybody else as fucking sick of this "new" motherfucking poster as I am?
Or, is it just me?
Somebody, anybody, ban this motherfucker now.
Thanks.
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Is anybody else as fucking sick of this "new" motherfucking poster as I am?
Or, is it just me?
Somebody, anybody, ban this motherfucker now.
Thanks.
I'D BE WILLING TO WAGER THIS NEW POSTER ISNT A NEW POSTER AT ALL. JUDGING BY THE WRITING AND SPACING STYLE
IT IS WINKY
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I'D BE WILLING TO WAGER THIS NEW POSTER ISNT A NEW POSTER AT ALL. JUDGING BY THE WRITING AND SPACING STYLE
IT IS WINKY
bingo
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BURKE IS IN THE STRATOSPHERE IN EARNINGS, BUT ALLARD IS RIGHT THERE WITH TAKTER, SO I'D SAY THAT HE IS SUCCESSFUL
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How many positive tests does Burke have still pending?
suppose you tell us
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I'D BE WILLING TO WAGER THIS NEW POSTER ISNT A NEW POSTER AT ALL. JUDGING BY THE WRITING AND SPACING STYLE
IT IS WINKY
tmbz1
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Is anybody else as fucking sick of this "new" motherfucking poster as I am?
Wow, what did he say that has someone worked up this bad?
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I occasionally watch some Pocono races.....and a few YR.....
The Allard horses do jump up quite a bit at Pocono.....
not so much at YR.....
I have always had my suspicions regarding the use of designer state of the
art drugs by Allard.....but just a gut feeling.....I could be totally out to lunch.
I could not say I am 100% correct.....or even 70%.
I hope he is clean for the sports sake......but if he does "juice" his starters....
as they say......wouldn't it eventually come to light?
He is fairly high profile......
His horses do exceptionally well at Pocono....always have a little extra "go".
Is he willing to risk his entire reputation and livelyhood to
get into the winners circle?
And ..in the event he does use something extra......what is it?
or what could it be that would elude all the modern day testing?
Enlighten me......
Allard has gotten Multiple Positives. He also has a beard that races Monitcello/Saratoga by the name Dolores Basilone. If you want to find out how/why they continue to allow him to Race, please feel free to call the judges at Pocono, Yonkers, Monticello (mention Dolores) and please let us know the outcome!
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Well.....first let me address Mr. "Calhoun"
Go Fuck yourself.......Th is is America.....and we have Freedom of Speech...
If you don't like it ....why not move to some fuckin Al Khaeda country
Maybe your problem, well ..one of your many problems is you can't
answer a legitimate post.....just knock the posters.
At least I try to bring a serious problem to discussion....whi le you,
wiseass, just mouth off instead of contributing..... .
Oh , it just dawned on me.....you don't have a fucken thread
of grey matter to contribute......s o.....
go back to your welfare studio apartment and clean your toilet bowl tonite....
and while you are at it.....stop by at White Castle and fill your
fat ass with 100 double cheeseburgers....
PS they have an excellent Dick Enlargement Center down the block
and you can get your 2 inch prick lengthened to ..say ....2 1/2 inches
if u blow the guy at the front desk.....
Got it.. Fatso.
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He does take the moniker of a horse racing at RR and YR during Winkey's time.
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Thanks to these posters who have contributed to this thread
with realistic and thoughtful answers...
They are:
Jazzman
Horespower
Dinkadoo
Beebop
Caliracer
As for the "Calhoun" ...he at best, gets a one way ticket to Paluckaville...
and....no lunch money....
but we will get him a 25% Coupon for the Clinic so he can clear up
that "drip" he has his mom worried about.
PS Stop Ass fucking Crack Whores, ya Fat Fuck.
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This may come as a shock for some. But knowing Rene, he's actually an excellent horseman. And I mean the whole package that comes with that. As for what guys do to gain an edge, every damn one of them do it. Difference is at what level are they willing to go. But they aren't handing any halos to anyone when it comes to complete innocence. That you can blame on the individual commissions, and just forget about the USTA. What you see is what you get.
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OK....I will tell u a good story about a horse named Less Tired....
Some jerkoff bought him at a Liberty Bell Sale for $7600...1975
He had been racing at Fox(5/8) outside of Boston...
He was a 6 yr old Bret Hanover gelding.
(Boston Red Sox by the way win the world Series in 2018).
In any case....the horse started at Monticello driven by my old buddy
Louie Gigante.....His Uncle was a well-known mobster always
in the headlines.....if any of you are old timers.
Louie drove the horse square and when "LessTired" came down to YR....they
had a young guy no one knew at the time come down from Monti to drive
for a guy named Vinny Aurigemma.....the driver.....what was his name....
uh ..oh....oh yeah.....Catello Manzi...thats right...
Well, 6 weeks later the horse is up to a $33k Claimer at YR from 18k...
So, I guess u could say he won a few races...
About 6 months later after a layoff....the horse raced at RR...first time modified sulky...
Del Insko drove.....15-1 ML ......
Wraps off wire to wire drew off by 8 lengths.....breat hing fire.
Not sure what the heck the horse paid ...but.....hmmm.. ..oh yeah....
$16.40 was pretty close.....very close......
Now ,all I remember is that some schnook from Queens, NY beat 5 or 6 NY bookmakers
for around $60k on that race and they were all pissed.to say the least.
and even though the books didn't want to pay ....they found out the bad news
rather quickly .....that they had to pay....Lifes a bitch aint it.
I will leave the rest up to your imagination.....T hanks Louie.
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Thanks...."Ignorance is Bliss"
That....is a GOOD Post.
and maybe sums everything up......
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Thanks...."Ignorance is Bliss"
That....is a GOOD Post.
and maybe sums everything up......
I knew Louie. Had the limo business, Randy Perry would always bring something nice to look at every night. From the Bell days to Happy Bibby.
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Louie was a good lookin' boy.....could have been a movie star....
maybe a role in Godfather?
not a bad driver either......
u are right....did go into the limo business....
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It was good times back then. Everyone was taken care of from top to bottom. Today, complete joke.
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and the trainer? Vinny Aurigemma??
well, a guy named Danny wound up seeing what this guy did with
over the hill Less Tired...and Chaw.....and decided to go "all in"
and buy a few for Vinny to race....
The rest was history.
Some of Dannys horses....?????
Docs Fella, Division Street(beat OTRA in Breeders Crown), Tim O Nic, Lushkara, Pats Comedian, Sugar Valley Abbe....Camluck
and dozens of others...
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I hope this winky idiot, contracts ass cancer and has to scream bloody murder every time he takes a shit
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Yo.....
"Cottonwood Farm" Douchebag......
Stop sexing it up with the sheep on the farm......and fuck your sister instead......
She looks worse than u do.
GOT it ...Pal.
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Louie was a good lookin' boy.....could have been a movie star....
maybe a role in Godfather?
not a bad driver either......
u are right....did go into the limo business....
Less Tired: Louie been in the eyetalian restaurant business for many many years in White Plains...Good restaurant, I've eaten there several times..
Here's a picture of him https://www.giganterestaurant.com/story/
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Hey thanks Emperor Dapple.......
I am going to go there next chance I have......
Thanks for sending this !!!
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i am only curious EDDIE, not a life and death issue of importance.
NO YOUR NOT YOU WERE TROLLING PIGLAND
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Same old sick rainbowman.
Nothing new about him.
Same old tired words and phrases.
TOTALLY
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Danny K owned Camluck
think he TT 1:46:4 ? many years back
but maybe I am wrong.
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Is it possible Danny K was "New Destiny" ?
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Kramer owned Cambest.
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i think Kramer was Denim II stable ?
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thanks Mazola.....
I knew it was "Cam" Something.......
and I remember he had a very fast TT @ Lexington.....
that maybe was the fastest mile up to that point.....