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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: Coupledentry on May 24, 2023, 10:14:51 AM
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Looks like Bongiorno and Dicostanzo names not listed on horses at big m?? The ones they usually drive have no driver listed, something going on looks like they were taken off
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Looks like Bongiorno and Dicostanzo names not listed on horses at big m?? The ones they usually drive have no driver listed, something going on looks like they were taken off
RACE 6 - Meadowlands - NJ - May 27, 2023
#3 Anna`s Wish
Joe Bongiorno Jennifer Bongiorno
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Mr. Bongiorno was off his drivers last night at Yonkers but was at the Qualifiers at Chester.
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Dunn is not listed on anything either.. he always drives for Ryder in stakes. I wonder if he got days from last weekends drives he was on ton of favs just sat back and burned TON of peoples cash last weekend.
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Nvm… he is oversees at Elitloppet.
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Joe and Jen B seem to rack them up fines, suspensions in NYS, and the year is 1/2 way through. They're the best, suicide squad! ;D
https://rulings.gaming.ny.gov/searchrulings.byyear.php?ID=2023
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They must race clean at Meadowlands. Whiney Jeff said his track is 100% clean. I hope they get put away in the next sweep by the Feds. 🤞🤞
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They must race clean at Meadowlands. Whiney Jeff said his track is 100% clean. I hope they get put away in the next sweep by the Feds. 🤞🤞
The cleanest cesspool in racing lol. The McCarthy bros, JB a new rule that the former should be whipped to keep them awake in a race, and the latter for animal abuse for 1/2 or more of a race, which other drivers don't do typically which makes the racing playing field uneven....
Every mother fucker should get what they deserve, when covid caused racing to go offline, that timing could of been used well, it could of come back cleaner and better than ever - not worse! :P
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Last Saturday night, Joe B sat back at 6/5 and watched his significant other steal a win (r14).
Remote Judge Haskell, more concerned about expelling drivers who use winning strategy (give up a hole to follow)?
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Last Saturday night, Joe B sat back at 6/5 and watched his significant other steal a win (r14).
Remote Judge Haskell, more concerned about expelling drivers who use winning strategy (give up a hole to follow)?
What was going on with her left leg, she pulled it out and grabbed at something and then put it back around the 1/2 mile pole, awkward?
Great ride by Joe, a lil blind switch he was the recipient of too in that 7/8's lackluster performance, I thought Biden was the only sleepy Joe as he's referred to here and the outside!
ND, JB, better racing through chemistry, b's are the best! ;D
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What was going on with her left leg, she pulled it out and grabbed at something and then put it back around the 1/2 mile pole, awkward?
Great ride by Joe, a lil blind switch he was the recipient of too in that 7/8's lackluster performance, I thought Biden was the only sleepy Joe as he's referred to here and the outside!
ND, JB, better racing through chemistry, b's are the best! ;D
She was pulling the plugs and couldnt do it with her foot. The race stunk of "setting it up for her."
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She was pulling the plugs and couldnt do it with her foot. The race stunk of "setting it up for her."
tmbz1
That trio, some talent and experience....wit s for the game?....read their twitter feed not exactly ninjas at pulling off a heist muchless holding a legit contest or any family professional or personal affair.
Maybe they have a friend in the Newark FBI. Yeh, Ray Charles Hoover! ;D
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They will tell you that there is no evidence of Joe training the dicostanzo horse or of a relationship with the driver. But they did want to permanently ban David Miller about a month ago, right?
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They will tell you that there is no evidence of Joe training the dicostanzo horse or of a relationship with the driver. But they did want to permanently ban David Miller about a month ago, right?
If I had an issue with Purple Jesus, I don't remember it so ok there, but if someone got something I'll watch and listen, advise, seek advisement...
But "They" and the midget mod squad, can choke on dicks and drop dead! 73cv.2
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https://harnesslink.com/usa/bongiornos-banned/?fbclid=IwAR0RhOcIr-lGLS_26MefHg4nr_5we1RFi7YqqellmpWKZbIS88UrGE_p28A
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https://harnesslink.com/usa/bongiornos-banned/?fbclid=IwAR0RhOcIr-lGLS_26MefHg4nr_5we1RFi7YqqellmpWKZbIS88UrGE_p28A
Very good work bro! Thank you!! tmbz1
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https://harnesslink.com/usa/bongiornos-banned/?fbclid=IwAR0RhOcIr-lGLS_26MefHg4nr_5we1RFi7YqqellmpWKZbIS88UrGE_p28A
I Stand corrected. I know there are some influencltial people who were not happy about r14. I suppose gural finally had enough if these people
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If you pay attention to the slow motion part of the finish, it clearly shows Joe looking over his left shoulder at the tote board. He's is looking at the odds,not the end where the timer is.This part expands the issue beyond just helping Nicole win,it opens up a wagering issue!
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I'll tell you exactly what happened Dave Little gave a Cold Punch late DD using Joe Bs horse in the finale and obviously was NOT happy. Nor was I for that matter.
Also seems Gabe Pruitt is noticing the shenanigans.
Thank You Gural for getting rid of these three criminals!
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i hope burke i s next
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how many times did they get away with it?
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Thing is this was an old fashioned race fix.
I was also live with Andy mac horse and that was not much of an effort either. Phony try at the end. This is why the DD was pathetically short
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what tracks will let them in with open arms?
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what took so long
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what tracks will let them in with open arms?
Jonkers. Philly Chester. Pocono Downs.
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what tracks will let them in with open arms?
Pigman, remember Dean Eckley. Tossed from every track he ever stepped foot in. Back at Harrahs Philadelphia and shaving seconds off his starters already.
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Why isn’t the New Jersey state Police involved. Race fixing is supposed to be against the law.
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Well Gural you get a thumbs up for the ban!.. tmbz1 tmbz1 tmbz1 tmbz1
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Well Gural you get a thumbs up for the ban!.. tmbz1 tmbz1 tmbz1 tmbz1
THEY WILL SWEET TALK JEFF AND TELL HIM THEY ARE SORRY IF IT
LOOKED BAD. THEY WILL BE BACK BEFORE YOU KNOW IT..
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The winner paid $31 for $2. Pool $35k
The DD paid $20 for $2. Pool $28k.
The winning Driver/Trainer/Owner is Joe's fiancee.
The got a little greedy, no?
Great sport ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
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After successfully blocking any possible threat from the back, Joe asked his horse once mid stretch (as soon as he knew he couldn't possibly get to his fiance) and the horse responded, full of pace.
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The winner paid $31 for $2. Pool $35k
The DD paid $20 for $2. Pool $28k.
The winning Driver/Trainer/Owner is Joe's fiancee.
The got a little greedy, no?
Great sport ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
$21.20 to be exact, but not my point I want to get the DD probable payouts, that would be interesting to see. ;D
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how many times did they get away with it?
Burke tries to win every time out. Like him or not he tries. Not saying he's clean or not, but he doesn't pull that shit!
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What about this entry?
https://racing.ustrotting.com/goto.aspx?target=12,89509
Paid event. Can't deny entry
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Actually rewatching replay of that 14th race it’s pretty obvious that Joe wasn’t trying b/c he is sitting like a statue in the bike literally not bouncing like a clown he does in the bike and whoever said he was looking over at the tote board is 💯 percent correct. He was probably thrilled that she pulled it off and he did his job.
That race was such a fix job it was pretty obvious. The kid is poison whole family is just a cancer to sport.
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Paid event. Can't deny entry
The skunk at a garden party. ;D
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Joey B seems mad on twitter. You think he'd just shut up. It was very clear. Ask for forgiveness, don't act like everyone that saw it is stupid. Apparently we are all haters and not just fed up with the bullshit! You don't make enough already? You need to stoop to this?
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And I think when it's all said and done, they can drop him as a driver but not sis as a trainer. This was all on him!
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Joey B seems mad on twitter. You think he'd just shut up. It was very clear. Ask for forgiveness, don't act like everyone that saw it is stupid. Apparently we are all haters and not just fed up with the bullshit! You don't make enough already? You need to stoop to this?
https://twitter.com/BongiornoRacing/status/1661500130149670913?cxt=HHwWgoCxvZfk6o4uAAAA
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Already claiming he will be back on Saturday. Funny as hell the one who tweeted at him, basically calling him a crook! Fucking hilarious! Don't be mad, he's right. You brought this on yourself! ngc3
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Already claiming he will be back on Saturday. Funny as hell the one who tweeted at him, basically calling him a crook! Fucking hilarious! Don't be mad, he's right. You brought this on yourself! ngc3
WELL I SAID THEY WOULD BE BACK, DIDNT THINK THAT FAST..
GOOD JOB BY GURAL LETTING EVERYONE KNOW THEY WERE BANNED,
GAME NEEDS THAT. COULDNT KEEP HIS MOUTH SHUT.
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Well if he wants to push the issue. Lets dig up all the dirt on the Bongiornos and trace the flow of funds from Daddys stealing of money. Like didnt he get a few million total from the likes of Sears, Steve Smith was in for 40k and a long long list of others. Besides the fact that investigators were watching their barn. From what I was told theres not a needle Joe doesn't like.
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Doubtful Gural can keep him from driving in the NJSS Saturday flr administrative reasons.
Joe might be desperately trying to keep owners.
If Gural already shifted course on this it wouldn't be the first time. There is and has always been some sort of relationship between gural and the entire family.
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I feel bad for Brian going to prison every week to visit Jenn
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Niki says they’re good to go
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Joe and Jen aren't worried, they'll just race at Yonkers, Chester and Pocono
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https://www.drf.com/news/meadowlands-wagering-investigation-clears-bongiorno-di-costanzo
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So his drive was never an issue, it was all about the payout.
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What about this entry?
https://racing.ustrotting.com/goto.aspx?target=12,89509
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Just another burr on the sock of the harness commuinity. Imho absolute pos.
Some people would steal a penny off you if they could.
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Not sure you can trust either gural or giwinners paper on big m issues. Theres appears a conflict of interest. Obviously, drf harness needs to be in the good graces of the owner of harnesses most significant track. And gural needs the bong horses.I dont trust either party.
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Jeff Gural running the Meadowlands revives memories of PT Barnum running his circus 73cv.2
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Not sure you can trust either gural or giwinners paper on big m issues. Theres appears a conflict of interest. Obviously, drf harness needs to be in the good graces of the owner of harnesses most significant track. And gural needs the bong horses.I dont trust either party.
No track needs cheaters.. I hope there is no second chance for this scum…
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https://twitter.com/SwiftHitter/status/1661562368835321856
Went on the pill so you can hit this pussy raw..Wanna win a race.
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Angelina from Jersey Shore wannabe! I'm sure the two of them will be very happy. Joe's track record certainly looks that way. ngc3
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Hebrew track owner is an embarrassment
All this bullshit and they driver and trainer did nothin wrong
To many fvkin crybaby gamblers at bigm
LOSE A FCKJN RACE WITH DIGNITY
Or don’t gamble
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Hebrew track owner is an embarrassment
All this bullshit and they driver and trainer did nothin wrong
To many fvkin crybaby gamblers at bigm
LOSE A FCKJN RACE WITH DIGNITY
Or don’t gamble
I'm sure you would have zero problem owning a horse who gets stuck behind Joe B stalling the flow to boot his girlfriend home, correct?
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Like his old man, a chip off the old block. When your raised to cheat, you know nothing else.
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The HRU article today noted DiCostanzo stats (pre Joe B relationship) as 40-2-0-4 (.083 UTRS) as of 5/31/22, since that time 78-13-9-14 (.303 UTRS)
Prior to entering her barn Lyons Pride was 2-35 with a lifetime best of 1:54.2. Second start with her he goes in 50 running off the screen by 12, then goes 6 wide, parked 1/2 last week and wins
We’re dumb but not stupid
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The HRU article today noted DiCostanzo stats (pre Joe B relationship) as 40-2-0-4 (.083 UTRS) as of 5/31/22, since that time 78-13-9-14 (.303 UTRS)
Prior to entering her barn Lyons Pride was 2-35 with a lifetime best of 1:54.2. Second start with her he goes in 50 running off the screen by 12, then goes 6 wide, parked 1/2 last week and wins
We’re dumb but not stupid
Better shoes. ;D
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Better shoes. ;D
Like Ive said before--Joe=best friends with Surick-who is going to jail for using performance enhancers provided by Fishman(15 years in prison) on Tbreds and harness horses-and helping to bury the ones that failed the program.
Joe must have survived Surick not ratting on his best buddy--but who the hell knows what arrangements have been made? Maybe Joe got Surick's stash?-or the supply chain still active?
Joes father made 5 M -in over 20 years training---Jenn(Joe) has made 20 M in about 6years.
So something changed when Jenn came to the helm as a puppet trainer.
Joes father knows how to train a horse--however Joe-is on another level-and my money is on what friends all tell me--its chemically assisted and the cheating allowing them to get better horses. .
Joe is simply a cheat--thats the explanation of what happened at Meadowlands--and until someone steps in to control these blatant cheats-its going to continue.
Why not fine Joe for inconsistent effort-for starters.
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Somehow Jen showed up in my twitter feed and she said Joe was motionless because he was previously fined and is changing his driving style, I don’t believe it , all Bongiornos must be banded
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Like Ive said before--Joe=best friends with Surick-who is going to jail for using performance enhancers provided by Fishman(15 years in prison) on Tbreds and harness horses-and helping to bury the ones that failed the program.
Joe must have survived Surick not ratting on his best buddy--but who the hell knows what arrangements have been made? Maybe Joe got Surick's stash?-or the supply chain still active?
Joes father made 5 M -in over 20 years training---Jenn(Joe) has made 20 M in about 6years.
So something changed when Jenn came to the helm as a puppet trainer.
Joes father knows how to train a horse--however Joe-is on another level-and my money is on what friends all tell me--its chemically assisted and the cheating allowing them to get better horses. .
Joe is simply a cheat--thats the explanation of what happened at Meadowlands--and until someone steps in to control these blatant cheats-its going to continue.
Why not fine Joe for inconsistent effort-for starters.
Jen Bongiorno said her horse was sick and as proof, is not entered this week anywhere
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Like Ive said before--Joe=best friends with Surick-who is going to jail for using performance enhancers provided by Fishman(15 years in prison) on Tbreds and harness horses-and helping to bury the ones that failed the program.
Joe must have survived Surick not ratting on his best buddy--but who the hell knows what arrangements have been made? Maybe Joe got Surick's stash?-or the supply chain still active?
Joes father made 5 M -in over 20 years training---Jenn(Joe) has made 20 M in about 6years.
So something changed when Jenn came to the helm as a puppet trainer.
Joes father knows how to train a horse--however Joe-is on another level-and my money is on what friends all tell me--its chemically assisted and the cheating allowing them to get better horses. .
Joe is simply a cheat--thats the explanation of what happened at Meadowlands--and until someone steps in to control these blatant cheats-its going to continue.
Why not fine Joe for inconsistent effort-for starters.
Very well said! Adjacent to this on going cheating. Is the that the Track Owner and Management should make a determination and stick with it. Is it because Jenn worked for the track and knows more about what goes on behind the scenes? Or is it because a big stable like her's is paramount to the betting action and handle at the BigM?
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The decision to reinstate them after examination of the betting patterns is a half baked answer. These people have to much to loose to get caught by analysis of the betting patterns. The gambling money was made on off-shore betting…these people addicted to gambling especially the dad, to good to pass up. As for the race itself and being in the business for a majority of my life, Joe’s positioning and lack of effort are obvious signs of a deliberate tank job. If in fact the horse did not fire, (which I doubt), the proper protocol would be for the horse to scoped…was he? When questioning the driver, did the driver state the horse was locked on the line? Was blood taken 24 hours later on the horse after his system has settled, all questions that need to be resolved before I would reinstated them.
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The decision to reinstate them after examination of the betting patterns is a half baked answer. These people have to much to loose to get caught by analysis of the betting patterns. The gambling money was made on off-shore betting…these people addicted to gambling especially the dad, to good to pass up. As for the race itself and being in the business for a majority of my life, Joe’s positioning and lack of effort are obvious signs of a deliberate tank job. If in fact the horse did not fire, (which I doubt), the proper protocol would be for the horse to scoped…was he? When questioning the driver, did the driver state the horse was locked on the line? Was blood taken 24 hours later on the horse after his system has settled, all questions that need to be resolved before I would reinstated them.
AGREED!!! tmbz1
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The HRU article today noted DiCostanzo stats (pre Joe B relationship) as 40-2-0-4 (.083 UTRS) as of 5/31/22, since that time 78-13-9-14 (.303 UTRS)
Prior to entering her barn Lyons Pride was 2-35 with a lifetime best of 1:54.2. Second start with her he goes in 50 running off the screen by 12, then goes 6 wide, parked 1/2 last week and wins
We’re dumb but not stupid
These stats alone should get Joe's girlfriend banned. Complete bullshit and everyone knows it. That horse goes from piece of shit to having a rocket up it's ass!
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These stats alone should get Joe's girlfriend banned. Complete bullshit and everyone knows it. That horse goes from piece of shit to having a rocket up it's ass!
Logically you would think so. But realistically its up to the leader of the fiefdom, and what ever he decides.
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Somehow Jen showed up in my twitter feed and she said Joe was motionless because he was previously fined and is changing his driving style, I don’t believe it , all Bongiornos must be banded
I guess we won't be seeing him rocking again ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
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I guess we won't be seeing him rocking again ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
ngc3 11.wp
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You can get to the truth, but you have to “Really Want To.” It’s not hard to corner them because in NJ under your license application you sign, you agree to there rules and being a commission the will extend there power as far as they want even if you lawyer up. Lawyering up is not the ultimate solution it becomes a negotiation to minimize the damage an consequences. I know been through that and had lawyer negotiate to limit the damage. I could have done better if I was a larger outfit with entry box power. Only had a stable of six so they had some leverage. Fought the good fight!
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Somehow Jen showed up in my twitter feed and she said Joe was motionless because he was previously fined and is changing his driving style, I don’t believe it , all Bongiornos must be banded
Anybody see the 2nd at Mohawk ?? That mofo was rockin' so hard in the bike I'm shocked that it didn't break.
He's changed my ass.
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Anybody see the 2nd at Mohawk ?? That mofo was rockin' so hard in the bike I'm shocked that it didn't break.
He's changed my ass.
Unreal.
Why did you bump a Joe B. thread, talking about him and Jenn and quote that for Jiggy Jog S driven by Dunn?....you could of started a new thread...never mind... ;D