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Title: THINGS YOU DONT SEE IN HARNESS RACING ANY MORE
Post by: LUCPARK on May 01, 2018, 08:43:53 PM
TRAINERS WARMIN UP THEIR OWN HORSES..

THEY USUALLY PAY 5 OR 6 BUCKS TO GUYS PER HORSE
Title: Re: THINGS YOU DONT SEE IN HARNESS RACING ANY MORE
Post by: Zoooooming By! on May 01, 2018, 08:44:55 PM
TRAINERS WARMIN UP THEIR OWN HORSES..

THEY USUALLY PAY 5 OR 6 BUCKS TO GUYS PER HORSE

$10.00 For Freehold
Title: Re: THINGS YOU DONT SEE IN HARNESS RACING ANY MORE
Post by: PIGLAND on May 01, 2018, 08:46:14 PM
hardly ever turn them
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Post by: Equus Caballus on May 01, 2018, 08:48:32 PM
A driver with a set of balls
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Post by: Zoooooming By! on May 01, 2018, 08:57:48 PM
Most of them just sit in an office, enter horses and schedule vets and blacksmiths. No warming up or jogging like the old days.
Title: Re: THINGS YOU DONT SEE IN HARNESS RACING ANY MORE
Post by: LUCPARK on May 01, 2018, 09:00:52 PM
Most of them just sit in an office, enter horses and schedule vets and blacksmiths. No warming up or jogging like the old days.

My point  zactly tmbz1

old school jogging before a race is gone

Asking how he warmed up gonna
Sadly all gone
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Post by: quitpullinmychain on May 01, 2018, 09:01:04 PM
$10.00 For Freehold

I got 10 bucks at garden state park 15-20 years ago.Who pays 5,6 bucks I would tell them to warm up their own horses.
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Post by: PIGLAND on May 01, 2018, 09:01:14 PM
burke ruined racing in my opinion
Title: Re: THINGS YOU DONT SEE IN HARNESS RACING ANY MORE
Post by: LUCPARK on May 01, 2018, 09:02:21 PM
burke ruined racing in my opinion

He jogs all hiz horses true
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Post by: silent one on May 01, 2018, 09:05:42 PM
 Integrity, honesty, class, talent, handle, people attending.

    Sincerely, Silent One
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Post by: Johncicero on May 01, 2018, 09:12:11 PM
Whatever silent one is smoking I need some of that  ngc3 when has there ever been honesty integrity in any form of racing or gambling establishment .. from shaving points In sports to even the goofs betting tennis .. just a joke
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Post by: hoosierboy on May 01, 2018, 09:26:27 PM
Full grandstands
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Post by: Jazzman on May 01, 2018, 09:50:26 PM
how about when drivers would warm up. im really that old
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Post by: Jim Vermett on May 01, 2018, 10:13:40 PM
if Ronnie marsh could get ahold of a 8 ball by 5pm he'd drive like he had no fear. $ in the bank
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Post by: John Esposito on May 01, 2018, 10:21:46 PM
2 THINGS

MULTI RACE BETS WITH EXCHANGE TICKETS

AND SHOE SHINE GUYS IN NEAR THE SHIT HOUSE
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Post by: American Sniper on May 01, 2018, 10:28:25 PM




 SHOE SHINE GUYS IN NEAR THE SHIT HOUSE  ngc3  so true
Title: Re: THINGS YOU DONT SEE IN HARNESS RACING ANY MORE
Post by: kantseeback on May 01, 2018, 11:49:39 PM
hard burnt pretzels outside RR and YR
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Post by: SPERMIN HERMAN on May 02, 2018, 12:27:35 AM
JACKET AND TIE TO GET IN CLUBHOUSE.

SOUVENIR BOOTHS IN GRANDSTAND. AT ONE TIME, SARATOGA HAD 2 OF THEM OPERATING EVERY NIGHT.

AT LEAST IN NYS, PROGRAMS BEING SOLD AT THE CASH REGISTER AT NEARLY EVERY DINER, RESTAURANT AND NEWSTAND WITHIN 30-40 MILES OF THE TRACK.
Title: Re: THINGS YOU DONT SEE IN HARNESS RACING ANY MORE
Post by: pocket trip on May 02, 2018, 01:33:31 AM
Sitting in the grandstand at Roosevelt Raceway on a warm summer evening ,
watching the sun setting as horses warm up with the big fountain and the unique
tote board flashing the odds. Those were good times. 🐎🐎🐎
Title: Re: THINGS YOU DONT SEE IN HARNESS RACING ANY MORE
Post by: Emperor Dapple on May 02, 2018, 08:29:34 AM
hard burnt pretzels outside RR and YR

I remember those pretzels ..Monticello had a soft ice cream stand downstairs that was delicious..Sure do miss those days
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Post by: pickfourny on May 02, 2018, 09:07:57 AM
Sitting in the grandstand at Roosevelt Raceway on a warm summer evening ,
watching the sun setting as horses warm up with the big fountain and the unique
tote board flashing the odds. Those were good times. 🐎🐎🐎

I was real fortunate to grow up equidistant between Yonkers and Roosevelt, spend my summers as a camp counselor in Pa about 35 minutes from Monticello Raceway, and went to college in Buffalo so naturally I enjoyed the Batavia and Buffalo Raceway meets with my college buddies.  All in all, a harness fans degenerate dream I suppose. Those subtle reminders of days long ago when we were all young (or most of us with these memories were) bring a sort of melancholy feeling.  Yes those ultra hard pretzels after the Yonkers races; at Roosevelt, for me, it was a trip to Sprats for beers and wings right after the races (where I became acquainted with the owner of Sprats who himself owned a few horses; another story altogether).  At Monti the soft ice cream, and for whatever reason I liked their pizza as well, but mostly I enjoyed watching the races their in "The Place" lounge on the second floor, which had sort of a night club feel. For the Monti night cards I had a curfew in the camp where I worked in PA., so after the last race had to tear ass on Route 17 to get back on time.  However, after the Sunday day card (my day off by design) I'd end up at El Monaco's with my boys for what probably was the largest serving of shrimp parm you could ever find on the planet.  In college I hooked up with a fun crew where bell betting became an art, with one of us watching the start of the race from outside screaming back the # and several of us across the various win/pace/show windows. Shit, I even did an economics paper on the industry and met Gaston Valiquette (President of Buffalo Raceway) in the process.

So many fun memories of this game.           
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Post by: Sam R on May 02, 2018, 09:29:24 AM
I remember those pretzels ..Monticello had a soft ice cream stand downstairs that was delicious..Sure do miss those days
How about the guy that called the knish's "bionic belly burners"
Title: Re: THINGS YOU DONT SEE IN HARNESS RACING ANY MORE
Post by: Sam R on May 02, 2018, 09:34:00 AM
It wasn't easy but I saw Richard Perry and his crew bet the bell at Goshen. Needed a second relay to get from the front of the grandstand to the back. Ritchie would do anything for an edge.
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Post by: Emperor Dapple on May 02, 2018, 11:25:56 AM
I was real fortunate to grow up equidistant between Yonkers and Roosevelt, spend my summers as a camp counselor in Pa about 35 minutes from Monticello Raceway, and went to college in Buffalo so naturally I enjoyed the Batavia and Buffalo Raceway meets with my college buddies.  All in all, a harness fans degenerate dream I suppose. Those subtle reminders of days long ago when we were all young (or most of us with these memories were) bring a sort of melancholy feeling.  Yes those ultra hard pretzels after the Yonkers races; at Roosevelt, for me, it was a trip to Sprats for beers and wings right after the races (where I became acquainted with the owner of Sprats who himself owned a few horses; another story altogether).  At Monti the soft ice cream, and for whatever reason I liked their pizza as well, but mostly I enjoyed watching the races their in "The Place" lounge on the second floor, which had sort of a night club feel. For the Monti night cards I had a curfew in the camp where I worked in PA., so after the last race had to tear ass on Route 17 to get back on time.  However, after the Sunday day card (my day off by design) I'd end up at El Monaco's with my boys for what probably was the largest serving of shrimp parm you could ever find on the planet.  In college I hooked up with a fun crew where bell betting became an art, with one of us watching the start of the race from outside screaming back the # and several of us across the various win/pace/show windows. Shit, I even did an economics paper on the industry and met Gaston Valiquette (President of Buffalo Raceway) in the process.

So many fun memories of this game.       

If you enjoyed El Monaco's for italian the next time you are up in the Monticello area try Nardi's Italian restaurant on Main Street in Hurleyville..They are about 15 minutes from the track..Supposedly cousins of the El Monaco owners and their food is also large portion and actually quite good .

Title: Re: THINGS YOU DONT SEE IN HARNESS RACING ANY MORE
Post by: kantseeback on May 02, 2018, 12:48:44 PM
I remember those pretzels ..Monticello had a soft ice cream stand downstairs that was delicious..Sure do miss those days

I remember that ice cream stand at monti, the race changes on that old black and white zenith tv not far away. don't forget the pinball machines, cafeteria, and putt putt golf
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Post by: kantseeback on May 02, 2018, 12:52:08 PM
Whatever happened to that big statue in a case at monti near the back entrance for the Monticello OTB Classic?
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Post by: kantseeback on May 02, 2018, 12:53:15 PM
Racing from Roosevelt on tv with Stan Bergstien.  

Don't forget Spencer Ross
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Post by: Shadow Wave on May 02, 2018, 12:59:42 PM
Cloud Casino, Doc Robbins, Jack Lee, Eddie Cobb
Title: Re: THINGS YOU DONT SEE IN HARNESS RACING ANY MORE
Post by: quitpullinmychain on May 02, 2018, 01:43:49 PM
When you are driving up to the track seeing all the banners hanging off the barns with their names on them.Haugton,Cameron,Popfinger,etc.
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Post by: Redb2011 on May 02, 2018, 01:50:00 PM
Those days are gone,it was that one man owned 10 horses ,now 10 men own 1 horse,it's common now.-Good luck to all.
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Post by: NJ The best on May 02, 2018, 04:39:18 PM
pinball machines at the old roosevelt apron .
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Post by: the master on May 02, 2018, 05:39:15 PM
Roosevelt's tartan track and taking a bus from the parking area to the grandstand! Gam Wah after the races and the first tote board to tell you the exact win price! And oh those pretzels so bad that they were great!
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Post by: the master on May 02, 2018, 05:40:55 PM
How bout races going off at post time!
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Post by: Shadow Wave on May 02, 2018, 09:50:36 PM
Roosevelt's tartan track and taking a bus from the parking area to the grandstand! Gam Wah after the races and the first tote board to tell you the exact win price! And oh those pretzels so bad that they were great!

Great stuff Master.  Gam Wah where the money was paid.  When I was broke in the early 60's, climbing the fence at Orbach's and Fortunoffs.  In the late 60's when things got better I had a $6,000. claimer that did REAL well for me sitting behind Fast Gun with Matucci.
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Post by: Clubhouse on May 03, 2018, 02:00:09 AM
No more Seminar. Bee Bop's father held shop before every race. He didn't know a thing about handicapping and couldn't pick a winner but the Seminar was always on.   ngc3 ngc3
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Post by: pccwsc2 on May 03, 2018, 06:45:00 AM
TRAINERS WARMIN UP THEIR OWN HORSES..

THEY USUALLY PAY 5 OR 6 BUCKS TO GUYS PER HORSE

Its $10
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Post by: pccwsc2 on May 03, 2018, 06:47:08 AM
MOVES
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Post by: pccwsc2 on May 03, 2018, 06:49:05 AM
Great stuff Master.  Gam Wah where the money was paid.  When I was broke in the early 60's, climbing the fence at Orbach's and Fortunoffs.  In the late 60's when things got better I had a $6,000. claimer that did REAL well for me sitting behind Fast Gun with Matucci.

Gene was good people. I still keep in touch with Gino, today, from time to time.
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Post by: kantseeback on May 03, 2018, 07:18:27 AM
Cloud Casino, Doc Robbins, Jack Lee, Eddie Cobb

I have a menu from the cloud casino put away somewhere in my house
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Post by: Emperor Dapple on May 03, 2018, 08:23:17 AM
Great stuff Master.  Gam Wah where the money was paid.  When I was broke in the early 60's, climbing the fence at Orbach's and Fortunoffs.  In the late 60's when things got better I had a $6,000. claimer that did REAL well for me sitting behind Fast Gun with Matucci.

Did Mattucci have gray and pink colors ?
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Post by: Sam R on May 03, 2018, 09:43:47 AM
Did Mattucci have gray and pink colors ?
pink and black
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Post by: Sam R on May 03, 2018, 09:45:40 AM
Matuccci also trained a very good horse Lucky Child.
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Post by: captain cash on May 03, 2018, 10:17:52 AM
    The guy that wore the big clock around his neck at freehold..
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Post by: Emperor Dapple on May 03, 2018, 12:35:58 PM
Matuccci also trained a very good horse Lucky Child.

I also remember him training KungFu..
He was a decent horse
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Post by: Shadow Wave on May 03, 2018, 02:01:43 PM
Did Mattucci have gray and pink colors ?

Pink and black is right Sam.  Lucky Child was a JFA working his way up the A-B-C ladder winning whenever Gene wanted until one fateful night when Gene got caught on the wrong side of the bridge when it went up and they put Gilmour up and he wired him from the 8 in C-1 and Lucky Child was immediately moved up to A-3 and was still the best. Of course Matucci got caught up in the Moonstone Bay fiasco along with Mike Santa Maria and things went downhill from there.
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