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Harness Racing / Re: Mocha Java for sale on ongait for 140K
« Last post by The Unstable on Today at 02:23:02 PM »
Mocha Java in today in 4 yo KYSS race 5 softest division.  Guess since he ran his only start before sale posting they never got him sold at that bargain price. 
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He drove a real good horse for George Teague when his star was beginning to shine. Good guy for sure.
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He will lie right through his teeth, contradicting himself from one video to the next.

Insert SCM teeth joke here  ngc3 ngc3  ngc3
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Nice guy who was on the verge of being a grand circuit star circa 2008, 2009, etc. Now is lucky that Delaware keeps the slot welfare rolling or he would be out of the business.

Watch to see how often he shows up at Ocean Downs this summer for Md. sire stakes drives as his business goes completely dry at the Meadowlands and he is an after thought on bigger days at Chester. Yesterdays news for many years now and the stock he was rolling with at M1 back in the day was juiced beyond the gills. Has very little talent beyond that.

The Maryland Sire Stakes is where he will make the most of what he has left as far as driving skills

driving for Hans and those young Googoo's  that is where he a factor vs those drivers

He hasnt done much at M1 for several years

about a dozen years ago he drove a nice Grand Circuit quality mare named Jerseylicious for Wayne Givens

he also drove one of my favorite mares named Monochromatic--just the local Open mares races but he drove her flawlessly
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Harness Racing / Re: Howard Taylor - Jeff Gural Feud (HRU)
« Last post by Ramnap on Today at 12:43:26 PM »
https://www.harnessracingupdate.com/pdf/hru/hru052624.pdf

Meadowlands owner Jeff Gural served notice this week that the
track will not accept entries for horses owned in partnership
with Judy Taylor, the mother of Howard Taylor, and that her
interests must be divested by June 1.

The move puts some of the best 3-year-olds back into limbo.
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The question I have is this going too far or not?

This certainly creates a shitfest for the partners of Taylor who are being penalized.

Overall, I think we can all agree with Gural in trying to clean up the industry but is this going too far?.  People like Taylor have spent millions of dollars in purchases, and it has a ripple down affect.  Gural apparently has the right to exclude whoever, but it also looks like there is a lot more animosity than these so-called drugs being purchased by an owner.

Seriously? He invested millions because he knew it was a fixed game. He was in on the fix and there's proof of it from him buying the EPO. The millions he invested is contributing to the downfall of harness racing. The old farmers that raced the family horses that kept these tracks going aren't around anymore to save it. The evolution of the sport is destroying itself and we all know it and we all see it. We all saw what happened to dog racing once fewer and fewer owners and trainers were involved. My last trip to the dog track had under 20 people in the grandstand all nine races were competed by the same two trainers they both had truckloads of dogs. And then later that year it was banned and made illegal. There was nothing in the news about all the failed drug tests and breakdowns lead weights funneled down their throats to slow em down.
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Harness Racing / Three months...not a word...
« Last post by Way to go on Today at 12:29:02 PM »
ABD FUBINACA......... .did Delaware fall off the map ????????????
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May be grateful.....down the road..... that he has a college degree to fall back on to help support his many children
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Nice guy who was on the verge of being a grand circuit star circa 2008, 2009, etc. Now is lucky that Delaware keeps the slot welfare rolling or he would be out of the business.

Watch to see how often he shows up at Ocean Downs this summer for Md. sire stakes drives as his business goes completely dry at the Meadowlands and he is an after thought on bigger days at Chester. Yesterdays news for many years now and the stock he was rolling with at M1 back in the day was juiced beyond the gills. Has very little talent beyond that.
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Harness Racing / Mohawk Monday
« Last post by whiptherabbit on Today at 11:23:40 AM »
Race#5-#8 REACTOR NOW A 3-1 ML Stunk it up last start, drops down to where he last got his picture taken. Not an abundance of gate speed in here & he should have decent odds tonight.

Race#7-#9 SOMETIME SOMEWHERE 3-1 ML Same profile as above horse , awful last start, drops way down & even from the same barn. Should attempt to leave for position if nothing else tonight, be above ML for sure.

Race#10-#4 COALITION HANOVER 4-1 ML Absolute crush job last week in a cheaper claimer, way up in class tonight but peak current form. Sweet Deisel returns to Lester’s barn tonight & he will be bet off the board. I’ll go with the streaking Coalition Hanover in here.

Need Moreau to have a good night tonight!

Best of Luck!  tmbz1
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Harness Racing / Re: Computer Assisted Wagering - Elite Turf Club
« Last post by Papillon on Today at 10:55:06 AM »
Some tracks, and you will see more, are starting to cut them off with X minutes to post. So.....CAW is not illegal.....but it certainly isn't equal to the other players. Plenty of major players have met with track management and started saying they will take their business elsewhere. One major player at the Meadowlands did. Another major player at another track told track management he was leaving, he did, and the track cut off the CAW's with 3 minutes to post just to get that player back.

I think every track should have a 3 minute to post cut off for all CAW's. There's an indirect benefit here by the way.....That way the conspiracy theorists can feel they have more credibility when they scream about open windows. LOL. I can only speak to what I know first-hand at the Meadowlands. After making my bones in NY racing, I was at the Meadowlands the first night they opened. And I am still there. I don't bet for fun, sport, hobby or anything else. It is one way I make my living in this industry. So, in 2013, the Meadowlands made a deal with a CAW team ---- some very well known players who hooked up with a few techie guys were looking to diversify their original action. Maybe they were thinking the CAW would become their primary action. I know two of the guys and they both thought different things. Anyway, while I don't know it for a fact, I believe the initial contract called for the team to commit to $250k per card. What I do know for a fact is that the Meadowlands negotiated this deal and did their due diligence over the course of months. This discussion dragged on and it was because the Meadowlands was very slow to say yes. They spoke to the SBOANJ, horsemen, and yes, they spoke to some of their major players.

In the end, they said yes. At the beginning, when they counted up the money----the Meadowlands claimed 50% of the "increase in handle" came from the team. However, I know if that number was legit, I know for a fact that number shrank big time over time. That means the CAW is betting the same amount of money, but there was more money coming in from other sources. That still doesn't make it right or healthy, because the massive last minute odds changes weren't happening initially.

The question really is ---- would the CAW teams bet, and win, without concessions from the track(s)? Bet? Yes, but not for long. Win? No, that's why they wouldn't bet for long, LOL. People don't understand the CAW model, but let's just say they are not looking to make monster scores. They are looking to come out in the black WHEN you factor in the rebate. The margins are small. Frank Fabian probably knows more about CAW than anyone and he's spoken a lot on it. Almost every major player in the game knows him due to his role with the TRPB. He was already on this when the Uvari bust went down, and that was in what, 04 or 05? I met Frank in the late 90's and he was very much ahead of his time, but also whatever was going on at the time. In the harness game, the massive last minute odds changes were not common until recently and they were far more common in thoroughbreds than harness. Yes it has happened in harness racing and while it does happen more these days in harness racing, there are numerous other reasons why it's happening.

In the end, I say 3 minutes and you are cut off. While you are at.....reduce the takeout!!! LOL.

It is not a conspiracy theory when it is true, they most certainly do exist

I can speak to what i know is true--the Lexington hub is not CAW-but the real time satellite feed provides a latency advantage where the players there have sacrificed a big part of their rebate so they can bet after the bell--fact
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