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Michael Petrelli

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Re: I HAVE CHANGED MY MIND ON JEFF GURAL.
« Reply #15 on: October 31, 2018, 12:47:31 PM »
..."Because Farms invested Millions to keep Meadowlands Open"...

Farms invest millions to be competitive in the market. Farms invest in their products to be competitive in the Grand Circuit type events. Not The Meadowlands.

If that's true, then those mares and studs can be sent anywhere. Which is not a great chip to hold at the bargaining table. So think about that while sitting at the table pitching that approach. If you don't give us our cut, we can't sell babies to race elsewhere.
« Last Edit: October 31, 2018, 12:50:03 PM by Ignorance Is Bliss »

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Re: I HAVE CHANGED MY MIND ON JEFF GURAL.
« Reply #16 on: October 31, 2018, 12:51:06 PM »
Still behind Jeff, he has did a lot of good. Stick to your guns Jeff and things will work out.
Come with me to the "Darkside",its a matter of life or death!!

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« Reply #17 on: October 31, 2018, 01:07:07 PM »
Still behind Jeff, he has did a lot of good. Stick to your guns Jeff and things will work out.

"has did" ?  Gural has ONLY EVER been out for ONE person HIMSELF. About time more people see who he really is.

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Re: I HAVE CHANGED MY MIND ON JEFF GURAL.
« Reply #18 on: October 31, 2018, 01:17:23 PM »
Of course no response to the facts. Joke site

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« Reply #19 on: October 31, 2018, 01:35:41 PM »
Of course no response to the facts. Joke site

WHAT facts? Are those from CNN too? gural is a self centered asshole who wants to be god of harness racing. Loves to tell everyone what to do. AND how to do it. He doesn't care about harness racing. HE WANTS A CASINO. He got his sports betting palace. Piss on harness racing.

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Re: I HAVE CHANGED MY MIND ON JEFF GURAL.
« Reply #20 on: October 31, 2018, 01:40:50 PM »
the horsemen should put on races that are able to support the game,horsemen dont deserve any money from casinos or sports betting

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Re: I HAVE CHANGED MY MIND ON JEFF GURAL.
« Reply #21 on: October 31, 2018, 01:41:27 PM »
Because Farms invested Millions to keep Meadowlands Open-which is where the Sports Betting Money is coming from.

No they didn't. If they invested, they invested to make a profit for themselves.

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Re: I HAVE CHANGED MY MIND ON JEFF GURAL.
« Reply #22 on: October 31, 2018, 01:43:38 PM »
Did typewriters get a cut from Microsoft when the PC was taking over? Of course fucking not. That's not how the real world works.

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Re: I HAVE CHANGED MY MIND ON JEFF GURAL.
« Reply #23 on: October 31, 2018, 01:44:03 PM »
WHAT facts? Are those from CNN too? gural is a self centered asshole who wants to be god of harness racing. Loves to tell everyone what to do. AND how to do it. He doesn't care about harness racing. HE WANTS A CASINO. He got his sports betting palace. Piss on harness racing.
If he wants to be the GOD of harness racing....

Would he continue to run Tioga and Vernon harness meets IF his casino license wasn't tied to racing ?

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« Reply #24 on: October 31, 2018, 01:51:54 PM »
Not that anyone gives a shit about what I think-but here goes anyway.

I used to admire Gural when he first came on and "saved" NJ Racing. Was impressed by his desire to keep racing alive,improve the sport and even to clean it up -when the NJR Commission failed to do it.

Now-NJ Breeding Industry and racing hangs in the balance once again-with the State willing to place 100 MILLION into it over the next 5 years to encourage breeding and racing--something NJ needs and wants to help the farms and 100's maybe 1000's of participants.

Now everyone is on board to getting this money with one proviso-the State wants Gural to put some of the Sports Betting money into the pool-seeing that the money is coming from the very Racetrack Gural "Saved"

Gural so far-has refused-saying he wants ALL the profit from the Sports Betting to refund him the 80 MILLION the Meadowlands has cost him.

So Gural is willing to let the Industry to go down the shitter-so he can collect his money and probably even make profits-despite the fact that the 80 Million he said he is owed is BS as I personally know many Investors invested in the Meadowlands  who will lose money-big money-if Gural sticks to his Guns.
The way he has run the show also leaves a lot to be desired-as by banning many trainers from competing at the Big M-Gural has weakened the NJ industry as these trainers are now at NY or PA-raking in the $$$ instead of NJ where they surely would have raced stock.
Breeding centers will close-and already places like Showplace are gone-thanks to bureaucratic BS and a corrupt NJ RC.
Bryce Cote has poisoned the waters-racing would be better without him and his BS-and the NJRC should be closed up permanently.
Gural now appears to me to be all for himself-and until he does the right thing by racing which he swore he would support-Im in the opposing camp.
Gural has become a dictator.

Just think if you would have listened many years ago. But like many, your head was up Gooofffrrraaallll's ass many times. Glad you woke up, MAYBE  11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp
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« Reply #25 on: October 31, 2018, 02:00:12 PM »
Im out for one person MYSELF also tmbz1 Thats all that matters 11.wp
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Re: I HAVE CHANGED MY MIND ON JEFF GURAL.
« Reply #26 on: October 31, 2018, 02:47:58 PM »
Just think if you would have listened many years ago. But like many, your head was up Gooofffrrraaallll's ass many times. Glad you woke up, MAYBE  11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp

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« Reply #27 on: October 31, 2018, 05:06:14 PM »
Basically the horse game has a few people in it with real money the rest have everyday cash. Gural did step up because everyone else is broke no doubt. The place would still be shuttered no doubt. CC had had enough.  Theres just no handle to support any of these tracks today  even the meds. Do the costs from this weekend he made nothing . Sports betting separate entity.  He doesnt have to co mingle the to of them . Jeff is also long in the tooth what happens if something happens to him?  There is know one with pockets like he has in the game like him or not.

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Re: I HAVE CHANGED MY MIND ON JEFF GURAL.
« Reply #28 on: October 31, 2018, 07:51:06 PM »
Some on this site don't care about Facts!

They like to call Jeff names or make racist comments, Jeff isn't perfect & has made mistakes.

But who in the world hasnt made mistakes in their life.










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Re: I HAVE CHANGED MY MIND ON JEFF GURAL.
« Reply #29 on: October 31, 2018, 09:44:20 PM »



  #1       He is running a business


             Yes, Mildred ..u can try to make a profit...



   #2      What the fuck does a track owners religion

             have to be mentioned in the conversation....


              When we refer to  Tim Rooney....do we say he is Irish Catholic????

               or Stronach.......a methodist?????


             When we talk of Trump...do we mention his religion?


              C'mon guys ..grow up.....


            He is running a business and his funds are at risk....


             he is looking to recoup his Investment..Perio d.


             Just like Tim Rooney and Stronach.

            Lets call a spade a spade....and cut the BS


     



             

 

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