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Title: flamboro race #2 nov 22
Post by: Brown jug on November 23, 2020, 03:26:18 PM
i dont usually do this and yes i lost about $20 as i keyed this horse in the pick 5 but that is not the point of this
go watch  the  5 horse  ( mr john)driven by brett macdonald
he is 1/9 and for good reason, at least 3 seconds faster against a field that cant win a race
gets away second and has 1/2 mile to retake to the top but refuses and finally gets buried and shuffled to finish fourth

agco report from the judges..."all clear"
watch it, it is laughable
Title: Re: flamboro race #2 nov 22
Post by: swoodall on November 24, 2020, 12:46:15 AM
A little context for those who don't know.

I was a N/W 5000 lifetime.

8 horses total 5 horses had no lifetime wins.

2 horses had a win each in 2:01 and 2:02.1

Mr. John a 2 year old wins his qualifier in 1:57.4 at Woodbine

Breaks in his 1st start at Flamboro as prohibited favorite.

Wins his 2nd start in 1:56.0 at Flamboro wire to wire!   :27.4 :57.4  1:26.4  1:56.0

Goes off at 1/9, buries him in the 2hole, refuses to pull with 3/4's in 1:30 then gets locked in and shuffled around final turn with the mile going in 2:01.1

Brett Macdonald should be suspended.

On the bright side J Bradley Harris wins on a Joe H Pereira rat and pays $66.40 to win.

Pereira"s horse Lyons Dukie's 5 lifetime lines in order:

11/15   5th by 13   32.1  2:03.3
11/1     6th by 15   32.3  2:02.3
10/25   6th by 9     30.3  2:01.2
10/13   8th by 9     29.2  2:00.0
9/27     6th by 15   30.2  1:59.4
Title: Re: flamboro race #2 nov 22
Post by: ferdinand the bull on November 24, 2020, 07:30:42 AM
Cha ching
Title: Re: flamboro race #2 nov 22
Post by: Brown jug on November 24, 2020, 12:28:21 PM
correct and thank you swoodall
but not a words is heard, business as usual
it was beyond disgusting
Title: Re: flamboro race #2 nov 22
Post by: Artsplace on November 24, 2020, 02:50:26 PM
i dont usually do this and yes i lost about $20 as i keyed this horse in the pick 5 but that is not the point of this
go watch  the  5 horse  ( mr john)driven by brett macdonald
he is 1/9 and for good reason, at least 3 seconds faster against a field that cant win a race
gets away second and has 1/2 mile to retake to the top but refuses and finally gets buried and shuffled to finish fourth

agco report from the judges..."all clear"
watch it, it is laughable

Why not just ask him on Twitter? He already explained what happened there. No need to cry on here.
Title: Re: flamboro race #2 nov 22
Post by: Brown jug on November 24, 2020, 07:11:58 PM
great, please share
would love to hear it
Title: Re: flamboro race #2 nov 22
Post by: Brown jug on November 24, 2020, 09:32:30 PM
thank you for posting
i count about 50 seconds from the time mcdonald lets the 7 clear him to when he could have retaken, you would think in that amount of time a couple of brain cells would have connected and he would come out
apparently there was an explanation posted by the driver on twitter so i guess all good
artsplace please post the twitter response for all to see, unfortunately i cannot as i am not in the habit of following harness drivers ( especially b track drivers) on twitter
Title: Re: flamboro race #2 nov 22
Post by: swoodall on November 24, 2020, 09:52:35 PM
Bret Macdonald gave his excuses on Twitter! :1 ngc3 ngc3

What? Too much coke before the race? 43xc.2

Of course he made up excuses, this horse will win his next start by 10 at 1/9.

Cheating drivers screw owners looking to sell a 2 year old horse off a hot start. :1

Forget those small pools if he had crushed again in a decent mile somebody would have made a decent offer.
Title: Re: flamboro race #2 nov 22
Post by: private ritual on November 25, 2020, 06:11:30 PM
Just watched the race on you tube. Stiff for sure
Title: Re: flamboro race #2 nov 22
Post by: Brown jug on November 26, 2020, 10:17:25 AM
wonder if the agco feels the same
Title: Re: flamboro race #2 nov 22
Post by: harnessplop on November 26, 2020, 10:59:17 AM
Pools are dead...whete are you saying this karge betting coup happened. 5dimes closed to usa customers....plus the quality horses suck. Im for the its fixed stuff..but as example...jai alai people said fixed..yet the dania games online have misses as well...but the fkin exacta pool is 200 bucks..triple maybe 3k
Title: Re: flamboro race #2 nov 22
Post by: harnessplop on November 26, 2020, 11:07:02 AM
Ive seen this stuff before..in stretch they often fly to a win or sevond. Question..why r u betting in a fkin snowstorm ?? Second...animal is crap..otherwise hed race elsewhere
Title: Re: flamboro race #2 nov 22
Post by: firhill on November 26, 2020, 11:07:42 AM
Pools are dead...whete are you saying this karge betting coup happened. 5dimes closed to usa customers....plus the quality horses suck. Im for the its fixed stuff..but as example...jai alai people said fixed..yet the dania games online have misses as well...but the fkin exacta pool is 200 bucks..triple maybe 3k

Thanks for that update

 77z.chf
Title: Re: flamboro race #2 nov 22
Post by: Superfecta on November 26, 2020, 02:48:06 PM


"Retard on the front I remove mine he takes me down the half in 57 in the mud , he made a break two starts ago on the same kind of track"

That's a bullshit excuse. Why not pull down the back and slowly grind ? 11.wp
Title: Re: flamboro race #2 nov 22
Post by: Brown jug on November 26, 2020, 03:18:03 PM
first of all I agree re flamboro, we should all avoid it and yes horses are not the best
but the point is on a relative basis, bad horses or not it was a egregious  stiff notwithstanding the snow flurries or whatever
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