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The STABLE spends 140k on good looking pacer
« on: February 28, 2022, 08:20:34 PM »
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Re: The STABLE spends 140k on good looking pacer
« Reply #1 on: March 01, 2022, 04:24:47 AM »
The sale prices for babies has gone through the roof. He would like to buy at the lower end. Spend up to $30,000. Never see him spend $100,000. The $15 -$20,000 horses nobody really wants. That was his price point. Probably smart to change his business plan.
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Re: The STABLE spends 140k on good looking pacer
« Reply #2 on: March 01, 2022, 11:01:12 AM »
The Stable doing very well, reinvesting some of the profits they have made. $140K just chump change

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Re: The STABLE spends 140k on good looking pacer
« Reply #3 on: March 01, 2022, 11:58:13 AM »
$2,000 for a 1% share, I'm told.  No thanks.

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Re: The STABLE spends 140k on good looking pacer
« Reply #4 on: March 01, 2022, 01:06:47 PM »
$2,000 for a 1% share, I'm told.  No thanks.
Consider it an investment.  You'll get paid back 10 fold.

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Re: The STABLE spends 140k on good looking pacer
« Reply #5 on: March 01, 2022, 02:28:46 PM »
certainly upped the budget at the sales in 2021 but as a few have said  you had no choice if you wanted anything with decent pedigree and confirmation
bought a bunch in the $30-$60 k range
bought about 60 overall
some will hit for sure
trick is buying the ones that do and avoiding the other 50 or so
always a tough game

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Re: The STABLE spends 140k on good looking pacer
« Reply #6 on: March 01, 2022, 02:30:26 PM »
$2,000 for a 1% share, I'm told.  No thanks.

too much meringue for you?

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Re: The STABLE spends 140k on good looking pacer
« Reply #7 on: March 01, 2022, 05:37:11 PM »
too much meringue for you?
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Re: The STABLE spends 140k on good looking pacer
« Reply #8 on: March 01, 2022, 09:38:26 PM »
well Ice hasnt posted anything that required a reply (not that he ever had mind you), so I guess you could call it that revival  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3

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Re: The STABLE spends 140k on good looking pacer
« Reply #9 on: March 06, 2022, 10:17:41 AM »
too much meringue for you?


 Andrew (Calhoun) got soaked on Miss Meringue


 I think he owns 0.00012 of a T-Bred though...


 

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Re: The STABLE spends 140k on good looking pacer
« Reply #10 on: March 07, 2022, 10:13:01 AM »
THE MOVEMENT OF THESE FOLKS IS COMMENDABLE.  THIS IS SIMILAR TO THE MOVEMENT LED BY LOU GUIDA IN THE 1970S AND 1980S.   AS YOU MAY NOT KNOW MR. GUIDA WENT TO WALL STREET AND PERSONALLY CHANGED THE BUSINESS AND HOW THE BUSINESS WAS RUN ON A DAILY BASIS.  MIDLANTIC BANK BEGAN TO FINANCE HORSES JUST LIKE HOMES----ALMAHURST FARM PARTNERED WITH MERRILL LYNCH---JOHN SIGNORELLI TOOK STANDARDBRED TROTTERS AND PACERS PUBLIC---HORSES LIKE NIATROSS--SONSAM ----IN THE POCKET---NIHILATOR AND THE LIST GOES ON AND ON WERE SYNDICATED BY MR. GUIDA!!!  VERY FEW INVESTORS EVER RECEIVED ANY RETURN ON THEIR INVESTMENTS BUT HAD LOTS OF FUN AND IT WAS A FUN ERA IN THIS INDUSTRY.

THIS NEW GROUPD HAS DONE A GREAT JOB INTRODUCING NEW PEOPLE TO THE SPORT.   MOST WILL NEVER SEE A RETURN BUT THEY ARE HAVING FUN.  THERE IS SO MUCH MONEY OUT THERE THAT THIS DOES NOT DENT THE AVAILABLE FUNDS FOR ENTERTAINMENT.

I WOULD CAUTION THESE PROGRAMS AS THE SEC MAY GET INVOLVED IF THIS GROWS TOO BIG AND IS UNREGULATED.  I WOULD RECOMMEND ANYONE DOING THESE TYPES OF DEALS TO HAVE THEIR COUNSEL OR A SEC EXPERIENCED COUNSEL HELP CONSTRUCT THE PARTNERSHIP AGREEMENTS / CONTRACTS.   I AM NOT SURE HOW THESE ARE STRUCTURED BUT I WOULD GUESS THES FOLKS HAVE GREAT COUNSEL IN ORDER TO GET WHERE THEY ARE TODAY.

EITHER WAY---THERE IS UNLIMITED FUNDS OUT THERE FOR THIS!!!!  WE DID MILIONS AND MILLIONS IN THE OLD DAYS AND DID NOT SCRATCH THE SURFACE----THERE IS UNLIMITED FUNDS TODAY !!!

THE TAX BENEFITS ARE OUT OF THIS WORLD WITH SECTION 179 DEDUCTIONS !!!!

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Re: The STABLE spends 140k on good looking pacer
« Reply #11 on: March 07, 2022, 10:28:51 AM »
TIC BANK BEGAN TO FINANCE HORSES JUST LIKE HOMES----ALMAHURST FARM PARTNERED WITH MERRILL LYNCH---  VERY FEW INVESTORS EVER RECEIVED ANY RETURN ON THEIR INVESTMENTS BUT HAD LOTS OF FUN AND IT WAS A FUN ERA IN THIS INDUSTRY.

Jack Baugh used his position as head of the USTA to CONvince investors of the well ness of their investment.
Most horses he bought for the partnerships in were fillies, and had Almahurst in their names.
Few ever covered their cost.....and many were then sold to the next partnership as "prospective great brood mares" 
My uncle did not have ANY fun in both these partnerships..and lost over $ 300,000.     Only Baugh and the guys who trained these colts and fillies made the money.  From your knowledge , I would say you were the legal hand that registered the partnerships. My uncle , now deceased, was considering legal action against Baugh..........bu t could find no others who wanted to step up and take on Baugh.







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Re: The STABLE spends 140k on good looking pacer
« Reply #12 on: March 07, 2022, 10:10:02 PM »
I was like so many others and was in fact an investor in many of these programs and so many more.  I truly do not think I was ever paid 1 penny in return.  Never.   Many of this was bank loans and without a return the investors would have to repay the loans out of their own funds.   These folks had accountants and did some tax returns that created tax write offs for the investors.

All the deals that I saw required a net worth in excess of $1 million dollars and net income in excess of $200,000 per year.  Please recall in the 1970's and 1980's that was a whole lot of money in todays dollars!!!

If you were an investor in the programs that I participated in as an investor and completed the docs legally and truthfully---it was an investment that disclosed very high risk and that is why I was never shocked that nothing was ever paid back!!!

We sure had lots of fun and hopium!!!!

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Re: The STABLE spends 140k on good looking pacer
« Reply #13 on: March 08, 2022, 08:35:25 AM »
well Ice hasnt posted anything that required a reply (not that he ever had mind you), so I guess you could call it that revival  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3

too much meringue for you?

I checked.  I lost $293 total before exit. 

You want to know how Pigeon Jim did with his latest thestable Buzzsaw?

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Re: The STABLE spends 140k on good looking pacer
« Reply #14 on: March 08, 2022, 07:33:38 PM »
I checked.  I lost $293 total before exit. 

You want to know how Pigeon Jim did with his latest thestable Buzzsaw?

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