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Title: What should be the stud fee on Betting Line?
Post by: horsetruth on November 26, 2020, 06:11:21 PM
Dropped a bit this year but i still think the stud fee is a absolute joke.


Buckabet looked good for four races now went into Rat mode.

I suggest 3000 dollars Canadian and you get a free breeding in 2022.

Casie will get a write off bigger than Trump for the year 2020.

I would not use a free breeding. I would consider bringing him back to the races. If you

get lucky you double dip. " Ratting Line"
Title: Re: What should be the stud fee on Betting Line?
Post by: horsetruth on November 26, 2020, 07:08:38 PM
Who would want a baby rat even for charity?

He just did not throw anything that could pace.

And now you have TSD and Bettors Wish and A nice bred son of SBSW.
Title: Re: What should be the stud fee on Betting Line?
Post by: Crash on November 27, 2020, 05:39:32 PM
I actually think a lot of them have moderate speed and as a result he’ll be a useful racehorse sire.
Title: Re: What should be the stud fee on Betting Line?
Post by: Harness Stats on November 27, 2020, 06:00:55 PM
I actually think a lot of them have moderate speed and as a result he’ll be a useful racehorse sire.

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Out of all Pacing Sires only Somebeach and Captain T had more 2 year olds that earned over 20 Thousand than Betting Line.   Thats more than Sweet Lou, American Ideal, Art Major, Bettors Delight,  Always B Miki etc. 

No superstars yet but definitely useful raceway horses who should improve with age
Title: Re: What should be the stud fee on Betting Line?
Post by: Brown jug on November 27, 2020, 08:53:19 PM
so in other words he got a lot to the races they were just bad horses
his average earnings per starter were $19k
twin b miki had fewer starters but they earned $40k
betting line had 4 earn $100k +
miki had 5 earn $100k plus and 2 earn $250k + and 2 earn $500k plus

still early and not suggesting betting line cant bounce back
also miki was okay but needs to continue to show more, his were either very good or nothing at all
Title: Re: What should be the stud fee on Betting Line?
Post by: horsetruth on November 29, 2020, 05:21:06 PM
How many Betting Lines Casie buy to train this year?

Donuts anyone?

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Title: Re: What should be the stud fee on Betting Line?
Post by: Carnival People on November 29, 2020, 06:35:39 PM
How many Betting Lines Casie buy to train this year?

Donuts anyone?

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NO STALLION in all of harness racing should stand for more than $2.000.    In a few years they will be all be worth zero.   The game is over. 
Title: Re: What should be the stud fee on Betting Line?
Post by: horsetruth on December 01, 2020, 09:58:09 AM
2 Year old Betting Lines?

Can you imagine 3 year old betting Lines????????????

Lucky if he makes top 5

If Casie wont train a Betting Line who will train one?
$3,000 next year if lucky
Title: Re: What should be the stud fee on Betting Line?
Post by: Harness Stats on December 01, 2020, 03:49:26 PM
Why do you have such a hard on about this horse?  Lose a bunch betting on him ?  I don't give a crap about him or if Casie still controls him or has anything to do with him.  I only report facts here are some.

Top 10 money earning sires of 2 year olds


Sire Name      Foals          Starters       Earnings

SOMEBEACHSOMEWHER E   116   94   3,859,977
CAPTAINTREACHEROU S   110   79   2,811,948
ALWAYS B MIKI   111   62   2,329,949
BETTING LINE   119   93   1,393,773
BETTOR'S DELIGHT   121   67   1,392,168
AMERICAN IDEAL   113   69   1,344,426
ART MAJOR   69   50   1,221,103
SWEET LOU   84   55   1,130,813
SHADOW PLAY   91   59   1,068,801
JK ENDOFANERA   88   58   1,028,217
Title: Re: What should be the stud fee on Betting Line?
Post by: horsetruth on December 02, 2020, 04:58:53 PM
Lost money betting on him?  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3

Next year his three year olds will be crap

He just barely came ahead of sire with 50 bred to junk mares

He will be a disaster at 3. He needs a miracle in his next year breeding. He got lucky

Buck a Bet Hanover started well. Then Nothing! And Betting Line got great mares.

I hope you bought a barnful of Betting Lines. Now we have more serious sires entering the

breeding shed in 2021. Try talking to trainers and ask Betting Lines reputation. I bet Betting l

Lines Foals dont make top five in 2021 3 year olds. Check your stats and name how much

you want to bet. Pigland can hold my money anyday.
Title: Re: What should be the stud fee on Betting Line?
Post by: augustaandy on December 02, 2020, 07:03:34 PM
Lost money betting on him?  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3

Next year his three year olds will be crap

He just barely came ahead of sire with 50 bred to junk mares

He will be a disaster at 3. He needs a miracle in his next year breeding. He got lucky

Buck a Bet Hanover started well. Then Nothing! And Betting Line got great mares.

I hope you bought a barnful of Betting Lines. Now we have more serious sires entering the

breeding shed in 2021. Try talking to trainers and ask Betting Lines reputation. I bet Betting l

Lines Foals dont make top five in 2021 3 year olds. Check your stats and name how much

you want to bet. Pigland can hold my money anyday.


the Downbytheseaside's looked spectacular, sold better and he has much less competition (no Captain) in Ohio
Title: Re: What should be the stud fee on Betting Line?
Post by: Brown jug on December 02, 2020, 07:11:51 PM
your stats are correct
to his credit he did get 93 starters from the 119 foals
when you look further he drops to 12th on the average earnings per foal
he had a lot of average horses at best, certainly no stars

Title: Re: What should be the stud fee on Betting Line?
Post by: horsetruth on December 06, 2020, 01:06:21 PM
When was the last time you saw Casie donate a breeding???
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Title: Re: What should be the stud fee on Betting Line?
Post by: silent one on December 06, 2020, 09:43:30 PM
What should be the stud fee on Betting Line?


 Answer: a six pack of Chobani

   Sincerely, Silent One
Title: Re: What should be the stud fee on Betting Line?
Post by: Parked on December 07, 2020, 09:43:53 AM
If Betting Line has a fee of $100  , Papi Rob Hanover would be a steal at $15,000
Title: Re: What should be the stud fee on Betting Line?
Post by: ferdinand the bull on December 07, 2020, 09:48:28 AM
When was the last time you saw Casie donate a breeding???
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If she did we all would know about it , she does no good deed without fanfare
Title: Re: What should be the stud fee on Betting Line?
Post by: horsetruth on December 07, 2020, 11:08:02 AM
I checked 12 Charity Breeding Offerings and Casie has donated zero.

Donuts

No breedings

She has so many Stallions she can retire but would she help those in need?

Seems the answer is a resounding no
Title: Re: What should be the stud fee on Betting Line?
Post by: ferdinand the bull on December 07, 2020, 10:29:30 PM
I checked 12 Charity Breeding Offerings and Casie has donated zero.

Donuts
She got where she is by looking out for number one

No breedings

She has so many Stallions she can retire but would she help those in need?

Seems the answer is a resounding no
Title: Re: What should be the stud fee on Betting Line?
Post by: horsetruth on December 10, 2020, 06:41:27 PM
Anyone who can find Casie donating a breeding to one of her stallions get $100

in cold cash from Lucpark.

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Title: Re: What should be the stud fee on Betting Line?
Post by: canadian on December 15, 2020, 08:45:47 PM
Bettors Delight was not at all popular after his 2 year olds debuted.
Title: Re: What should be the stud fee on Betting Line?
Post by: Parked on December 15, 2020, 10:00:58 PM
Bettors Delight is a super sire, something that Betting line will never be even close too.
Title: Re: What should be the stud fee on Betting Line?
Post by: horsetruth on December 18, 2020, 05:14:13 PM
Barnsdale and Casie would me a great couple

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